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146 D or width? That's a big screen and big screens do improve the blacks. I would go with some positive gain for 3D and a ND2 filter for improving the blacks in 2D. Of cpurse. going to a huge scren, a ND2 filter could eat up too much light. It depends on screen gain and how much brightness you want. Ones eyes quickly adapt to lower brightness levels. Ah, I know that from so many years of using CRT FPs and thoroughly enjoying 7 ft lamberts or so.
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Have any W7000 owners tried other DLP-Link glasses with the W7000 other than the BenQ glasses? If so, would be curious to hear pros/cons re: light output, tint, comfort, ghosting, etc.

I have a pair of Optoma ZD-201 DLP-Link glasses that I've read a lot of positive things about but don't have a W7000 (am waiting for firmware updated models to be available before I order) to try them out with yet.
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146"D. Gain as in HP gain or white 1.4? HP may allow me to use the filter with 3D, but would be too much in 2D probably?
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Have any W7000 owners tried other DLP-Link glasses with the W7000 other than the BenQ glasses? If so, would be curious to hear pros/cons re: light output, tint, comfort, ghosting, etc.

I have a pair of Optoma ZD-201 DLP-Link glasses that I've read a lot of positive things about but don't have a W7000 (am waiting for firmware updated models to be available before I order) to try them out with yet.

I used the 101's and the brightness in 3D was lack luster on my 140" screen. This was with BC on.
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146"D. Gain as in HP gain or white 1.4? HP may allow me to use the filter with 3D, but would be too much in 2D probably?

That's almost 53 sq feet in screen area. I wouldn't woory about having too much light in 2D using a ND2 filter and the HP. And in 3D without the ND2filter. Of course, I wouldn't use the HP unless I could mount the projector near your viewing eye level. Its not my favorite screen but if using such a large screen, it does have a lot brightness wise to recommend it.

The BenQ glasses do very much counter the red push this projector has in 3D but a calibration is still needed to counter completely the red push in 3D..
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Have any W7000 owners tried other DLP-Link glasses with the W7000 other than the BenQ glasses? If so, would be curious to hear pros/cons re: light output, tint, comfort, ghosting, etc.

I have a pair of Optoma ZD-201 DLP-Link glasses that I've read a lot of positive things about but don't have a W7000 (am waiting for firmware updated models to be available before I order) to try them out with yet.

I bought a pair of VIP dlp glasses from consignia.ca and they work great. When I watch 3d I pump the contrast up to 70 with the BC on. I find those setting are great for games and animation.

http://www.consignia.ca/vip-3d-dlp-l...rojectors-tvs/
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Been real busy. Have been watching the Samsung but not switching and A/B ing. My wife has my posterior in constant motion going from one social activity to another and then there are the playoffs. The PLAYOFFS? Don't talk to me about the playoffs.
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Zombie (or any one else),

Very keen to know how 2D performance compares to the W6000.
Any difference in black level, brightness, sharpness or noise?

It's pretty fair to assume it's using a new DLP chip. Whether it's "officially" DC3 or not, you'd hope it has at least slightly improved contrast.

Thanks in advance...
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Anyone seen both the Sharp XV-Z17000 DLP projector and the BenQ W7000? I saw the XV-Z17000 at CES where they had a 3D demo of Despicable Me and thought it was beautiful (ofcourse animation often looks good), am curious how someone who has seen both projectors would compare them.
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I have no familiarity with the 6000 so I can't help there.

I have seen the Sharp but never took it seriously. It is very inflexible as to mounting options and it looked physically like a rather cheap business presentation projector with so so 2D. To me there were much better 2D options out there though in comparison to last year's performance in 3D from those projectors it was at the top of the class. My gut feeling is the Benq W7000 is a much better 2D performer but I would have to do a side by side to say so definatively. 3D wasn't that important to me last year and I personally wouldn't have chosen a lower level of 2D performance to get what was perhaps the best of the bunch 3D last year especially given its mounting inflexibility. This sport advances greatly each year. This year there are better options in the plus sum 2D and 3D game with most having pretty flexible mounting options.
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Anyone know if the ISco IIIL will work with the Benq W7000?
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Yes it supports an A-lens.

My principal concern is that its short throw distance and recessed lens may cause vignetting.
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My principal concern is that its short throw distance and recessed lens may cause vignetting.

I would do a search for W6000 A-lens users. If they did not have a problem, then the W7000 should be fine.

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A little confused, what's the difference between this $2500 one and this one announced by Engadget/Benq for $4000
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/09/b...se-date-price/
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A little confused, what's the difference between this $2500 one and this one announced by Engadget/Benq for $4000
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/09/b...se-date-price/

Same projector. That's the msrp.
$2500 Is the street price.
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Any update on the. January firmware? Are the new units coming with them?
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Any update on the. January firmware? Are the new units coming with them?

Here's a quote from the editor and reviewer of projectorreviews.com - Art Feierman, "Finally, as some of you know, BenQ has provided a small first shipment of projectors to dealers. My understanding is that those units do not have all of the issues above addressed.

And that raised this big question: What about the folks buying the early (late Dec.) projectors, in terms of getting the new firmware.

Good news there, too: The written word from BenQ: We will provide the FW upgrade service for those customers who buy the first batch projectors. Not a problem.
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I'm waiting till I know for sure before I buy one. I hope they can fix the black levels too, like they did with the w6000 via iris tweaks.
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I'm waiting till I know for sure before I buy one. I hope they can fix the black levels too, like they did with the w6000 via iris tweaks.

Well it's just not very encouraging when they do the exact same thing they did with the W6000. Are they slow learners or something?
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I got my W7000 last night. The firmware version is 0.28 , and I use PS3 / Himedia HD900B as player. Works great with my 135" Elite white screen ( Gain=1.1 or 1.3 )

The 2D brightness is very good with economic mode compared with my old pani AE1000. Almost as twice bright as my poor old AE1000.

However , the 3D brightness is somewhat dim through the BenQ DLPlink glasses. I'd try to use user mode and switch to high power lamp mode latter. Anyway , seeing 3D Harry Potter is somewhat uncomfortable in current setting. ( While the 3D Car2 is much better and awesome , I think Harry Potter should bear the bad names for brightness than BenQ... )

Is there anyone who has done comparison between the Optoma and BenQ 3D glasses?
Need more information for buying 2 more 3D glasses . ^___^

One more thing to complain , the menu font is just too small to see it clear from my seat...
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I got my W7000 last night. The firmware version is 0.28 , and I use PS3 / Himedia HD900B as player. Works great with my 135" Elite white screen ( Gain=1.1 or 1.3 )

The 2D brightness is very good with economic mode compared with my old pani AE1000. Almost as twice bright as my poor old AE1000.

However , the 3D brightness is somewhat dim through the BenQ DLPlink glasses. I'd try to use user mode and switch to high power lamp mode latter. Anyway , seeing 3D Harry Potter is somewhat uncomfortable in current setting. ( While the 3D Car2 is much better and awesome , I think Harry Potter should bear the bad names for brightness than BenQ... )

Is there anyone who has done comparison between the Optoma and BenQ 3D glasses?
Need more information for buying 2 more 3D glasses . ^___^

One more thing to complain , the menu font is just too small to see it clear from my seat...

I think the Optoma glasses you want are the ZD-201 based on reviews I've done, are consistently rated VERY high. I bought a pair from Amazon UK when I was planning on buying a W7000, now I'm not sure if I'm going to doe the W7000 or the Epson 5010, waiting to see what's in store with BenQ's January firmware update.
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Anyone figure out how to get into the service menu in the W7000?
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Yes , I heard many good things for Optoma ZD-201 glasses.
I've read one web review for Optoma 's glasses ,tested through a flash light.
The original flash light with color temperature 6513K/710 lux , will become 6642K/230lux. 68% of light is blocked. ( 50% is the low limit , because one of your eye is blocked for 3D viewing.). I think the 3D glasses of Mitsubish 7800 will be near 50% . Just don't how good or bad W7000 is.

Hoping WynsWrld98 can get W7000 soon and share the comparison
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Yes , I heard many good things for Optoma ZD-201 glasses.
I've read one web review for Optoma 's glasses ,tested through a flash light.
The original flash light with color temperature 6513K/710 lux , will become 6642K/230lux. 68% of light is blocked. ( 50% is the low limit , because one of your eye is blocked for 3D viewing.). I think the 3D glasses of Mitsubish 7800 will be near 50% . Just don't how good or bad W7000 is.

Hoping WynsWrld98 can get W7000 soon and share the comparison

All held up until BenQ firmware update happens, it's verified the projector is very solid with it and I can be guaranteed a W7000 I receive has that firmware on it. That sounds like it may be awhile...
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All held up until BenQ firmware update happens, it's verified the projector is very solid with it and I can be guaranteed a W7000 I receive has that firmware on it. That sounds like it may be awhile...

That is because their quality assurance and support team appears to be staffed from graduates of the short bus university. Instead of getting out in front of this thing and owning it, they seem content to sell off units that they know that they ought to be recalling and fixing. As far as I know they have yet to acknowledge any issue. I think I will call their support again tomorrow and see what they say now. At least the Acer 9500 has good black levels. Also, I am beginning to note a trend in the DLP 3D units where the 3D switching is not quite as smooth as the LCOS/LCD units for some reason. Not so much with the Optoma ones so not sure what is going on. Is BenQ using the Acer board or vice versa? They both seem to have this problem.
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Sadly, unlike EVERY other projector out there, the W7000 actually gets dimmer in 3D mode, before the glasses cut the brightness by a lot. Kinda silly. That is a large screen, and it sounds like you are sitting too far back. I sit 7' from my 120" screen. If you care about 3D enough I strongly recommend getting a pulldown high gain screen for 3D.
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Sadly, unlike EVERY other projector out there, the W7000 actually gets dimmer in 3D mode, before the glasses cut the brightness by a lot. Kinda silly. That is a large screen, and it sounds like you are sitting too far back. I sit 7' from my 120" screen. If you care about 3D enough I strongly recommend getting a pulldown high gain screen for 3D.

I've brought this up a number of times in various threads and no response about it. I would hope BenQ would juice up the lumens in 3D mode in the firmware update but with nothing stated from Art of ProjectorReviews.com about him even reporting it to them (despite him mentioning it in one of his first look pages) I don't know that it will happen. It's pretty sad when you consider this is a 2000 lumen projector, brightness in 3D should be very good.
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I think I read that Art mentioned that there was a setting that he had turned on when he first reviewed the PJ that dimmed the PJ in 3D mode and when he turned it off it was almost as bright as the epson in 3D mode. I think it was Dynamic mode. Did I miss something that you keep linking Art's review WRT the dim 3D?
It's from his blog, part 2: http://www.projectorreviews.com/blog...t-look-part-2/
I agree that the FW needs to be worked on but Art did say he can get it bright with some tinkering and it didn't make sense of how and why it got brighter

Anyways, I ordered one earlier this week and will let you guys know what the FW version is when I get it and set it up

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