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post #451 of 3824 Old 02-13-2012, 09:19 PM
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I got my firmware 1.0 W7000 last week. The 1080p/24 flicking bug in firmware 0.28 is fixed. I can't distinguish the black level things between these 2 versions. And I'm happy with the image quality.

The 2D->3D mode switching time is never a problem for me since ver 0.28 firmware when I turn off "auto search" for image source. It takes about 4~5 seconds for both versions.

I prefer the normal mode than cinema mode for more image detail.
If the image clarity is set over 2 , there are white edges appears at black objects ( clothes , paints ...etc.). So I just set clarity control to 1 or 2.

The dynamic mode which using original lamp color is with too much greenish tint. By changing to "warm color" , the image looks good. ( But I think the luminance may also dropped ... Anyway , it's bright enough for the default 3D mode. I don't use dynamic mode for watching movie at all...)

And the optoma ZD201 DLP link 3D glasses is much more comfortable than BenQ's solution with the same image quality. No ghost for 3D at all , and no rainbow observed for me and all my families. I'm very happy with my W7000. ^___^
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And the optoma ZD201 DLP link 3D glasses is much more comfortable than BenQ's solution with the same image quality. No ghost for 3D at all , and no rainbow observed for me and all my families. I'm very happy with my W7000. ^___^

I've read a lot of good feedback about the Optoma ZD201 glasses but they're not sold in the U.S. and apparently Optoma has no plans of selling them in the U.S. from postings here on the AVSForum about them. To make a long story short I bought a pair of the ZD201s in anticipation of buying a W7000 but due to the problems/delay in fixes for the first release of the W7000 I ended up buying an Epson 6010 which is LCD and have no use for the glasses. Anyway I just posted the ZD201s for sale on the AVSForum Classifieds if anyone is interested in buying a pair. They're brand new/factory sealed and had to be imported since not sold in the U.S.
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I got my firmware 1.0 W7000 last week. The 1080p/24 flicking bug in firmware 0.28 is fixed. I can't distinguish the black level things between these 2 versions. And I'm happy with the image quality.

The 2D->3D mode switching time is never a problem for me since ver 0.28 firmware when I turn off "auto search" for image source. It takes about 4~5 seconds for both versions.

I prefer the normal mode than cinema mode for more image detail.
If the image clarity is set over 2 , there are white edges appears at black objects ( clothes , paints ...etc.). So I just set clarity control to 1 or 2.

The dynamic mode which using original lamp color is with too much greenish tint. By changing to "warm color" , the image looks good. ( But I think the luminance may also dropped ... Anyway , it's bright enough for the default 3D mode. I don't use dynamic mode for watching movie at all...)

And the optoma ZD201 DLP link 3D glasses is much more comfortable than BenQ's solution with the same image quality. No ghost for 3D at all , and no rainbow observed for me and all my families. I'm very happy with my W7000. ^___^

Can you make any adjustment in the 3D mode to increase brightness above the reported 1100 lumens?
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When in 3D, can you select any of the Modes: Cinema, Dynamic, Standard, User 1, User 2, User 3 ... as you can with the Sharp XV-Z17000.
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What are the real lumens on this thing?

Projector Reviews is saying over 1500 calibrated in user 1 mode. Is this true?

But in cinema mode only around 1000?

Projector central review.
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Can you switch between high and low lamp in 3d?

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Does anyone have a W7000 with Firmware 1.00-3?
Have the issues with switching into 3D mode been corrected?
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See post 1874 in this link.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...382091&page=63

Do you recall seeing any negative consequences of using DLP Link glasses with the W7000? Are DLP Link glasses the only ones you can use with the W7000?

I believe DLP-Link only but I am not 100% positive but don't take it to the bank. I think this was discussed earlier in the thread.

I personally do not like DLP-Link but it is all preference. If I recall correctly,the BenQ introduces a red signal like my older Samsung TV to get the DLP-Link to sync up which may have an impact on calibrating the 3D modes. My buddy is ready to pull the trigger on a gaming 3D projector and I will be getting this for him in the next couple of days so I will get to see what BenQ has improved in the firmware. I am pretty much waiting on Mark to tell us they are back in stock.
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I believe DLP-Link only but I am not 100% positive but don't take it to the bank. I think this was discussed earlier in the thread.

I personally do not like DLP-Link but it is all preference. If I recall correctly,the BenQ introduces a red signal like my older Samsung TV to get the DLP-Link to sync up which may have an impact on calibrating the 3D modes. My buddy is ready to pull the trigger on a gaming 3D projector and I will be getting this for him in the next couple of days so I will get to see what BenQ has improved in the firmware. I am pretty much waiting on Mark to tell us they are back in stock.

The BenQ is DLP Link only, and DLP Link does introduce color issues - HOWEVER, if you buy the right glasses they have color correction that negates these issues.

For instance, the popular XPAND glasses *DO NOT* have dlp link color correction, not even the x102s. So they look terrible.

On the other hand the OPTOMA BD-ZD101 which you can get on amazon *DO* have DLP link color correction and look spectacular.


So, bottom line is as long as you get the right glasses DLP link works great, and IMO better than IR due to DLP link's far better coverage/range.
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On the other hand the OPTOMA BD-ZD101 which you can get on amazon *DO* have DLP link color correction and look spectacular.

Aren't there at least two kinds of dlp-link? One version that uses white flashes and another that uses red flashes? If that's the case, won't there be two kinds of color correction too? Has anyone determined what color flashes the w7000 uses?

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Aren't there at least two kinds of dlp-link? One version that uses white flashes and another that uses red flashes? If that's the case, won't there be two kinds of color correction too? Has anyone determined what color flashes the w7000 uses?

Perhaps, I wasn't aware there were multiple types of DLP Link (I thought it was a standard - you'd think optical sensor on dlp link glasses would not work if it varied). If there are multiple types, then yes again you'd need the right glasses for the right proj.

I know the Optoma DLP LINK glasses work well for color correction of Optoma and Mitsu DLP Link, I have no idea about BenQ though.
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I use the Optima glasses and they seem to reduce the red tint quite well. It's fairly easy to tell by covering the sensor. I an quite happy with those glasses.

On a side note. I am using the lenses from a spair pair of glasses that I glued to the inside of the Optima glasses so I don't need to wear glasses while viewing 3d. It made a huge difference in comfort and you can't see the lenses while wearing them.
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I use the Optima glasses and they seem to reduce the red tint quite well. It's fairly easy to tell by covering the sensor. I an quite happy with those glasses.

Are you confirming that the w7000 uses red flash instead of white flash for dlp-link?

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I don't know for certain, but it certainly appears that way.
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A pair of top-rated Optoma ZD201 DlpLink 3D glasses are for sale in the Front Projector section of the AVSForum Classifieds if anyone wants to buy some and report results with the W7000. These glasses are not sold in the U.S.
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Art took a first look at the 7000 with the new firmware and noticed a marked improvement in the black level. The complete updated review is still a few days off.
http://www.projectorreviews.com/blog...els/#more-1610
Hopefully all the 3D projectors will improve upon black level and contrast. Congratulations to Art for seeing this through and reserving judgement for many weeks.
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From my experience with a firmware 1.0 one sent back by AV Science for replacement with a new unit, the DLP link is red flashes. The 3D picture viewed without the glasses is quite noticeably red tinted. The BenQ DLP link glasses almost completely negate the red tint and it can be completely zeroed out with minor calibration. AV Science has not yet received the new units but supposedly they are in shipment to us. We should be getting plenty in. Please give us a call if you would like one.
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That's great news! Now I'm wondering if my 100" screen will be too small for this light cannon...

Anyone have a recommendation for a 100" screen in a darkened room? I do plan on using it for sports, movies, video games and 3d.
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That's great news! Now I'm wondering if my 100" screen will be too small for this light cannon...

Anyone have a recommendation for a 100" screen in a darkened room? I do plan on using it for sports, movies, video games and 3d.

May be a light cannon for 2D but certainly won't be for 3D unless you have a high gain screen
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Art took a first look at the 7000 with the new firmware and noticed a marked improvement in the black level. The complete updated review is still a few days off.
http://www.projectorreviews.com/blog...els/#more-1610
Hopefully all the 3D projectors will improve upon black level and contrast. Congratulations to Art for seeing this through and reserving judgement for many weeks.

I think it is funny how PC says the blacks are still not great but Art's impressions are much more positive. I wonder if his engineering sample was that much farther off than the retail units now that he got a shipping unit?

Only one way to tell, hopefully I can get one of these soon to test.
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Can you switch between high and low lamp in 3d?

Yes , like all the other mode ( normal , cinema, dynamic ...)
You can set lamp power to normal or economic , and can adjust brightness / color tint / sharpness / detail / frame creation ...etc.

I don't have calibration software and equipment . I think the reported lumina could be changed by all these fine tune. But I don't know if we can tune out a brighter 3D mode with all good contrast / color accuracy / black level ... etc.
Anyway , I can accept the 3D brightness in my cave
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I think it is funny how PC says the blacks are still not great but Art's impressions are much more positive. I wonder if his engineering sample was that much farther off than the retail units now that he got a shipping unit?

Only one way to tell, hopefully I can get one of these soon to test.

He may have a hardware upgraded one as well...

He saying that the the black level performance matches or beats the Sony VPL-HW30???

Not sure how you take that as not great...
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Yes , like all the other mode ( normal , cinema, dynamic ...)
You can set lamp power to normal or economic , and can adjust brightness / color tint / sharpness / detail / frame creation ...etc.

I don't have calibration software and equipment . I think the reported lumina could be changed by all these fine tune. But I don't know if we can tune out a brighter 3D mode with all good contrast / color accuracy / black level ... etc.
Anyway , I can accept the 3D brightness in my cave

Nice! Thanks ETK.

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Can anyone report that BenQ fixed the 3D switching issue (long wait times) with the latest update?

Also has anyone noticed tearing when when playing a PS3 game in 3D SBS?

I currently own a W5000 and I'm debating between the W7000 and the H9500BD for my upgrade.
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He may have a hardware upgraded one as well...

He saying that the the black level performance matches or beats the Sony VPL-HW30???

Not sure how you take that as not great...

if it matched the black level of the HW30, I'd be quite happy with that considering it's a DLP. I still have my HW30 and will get a chance soon to compare the new version of the W7000 to it.
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if it matched the black level of the HW30, I'd be quite happy with that considering it's a DLP. I still have my HW30 and will get a chance soon to compare the new version of the W7000 to it.

I would think that if it matches the HW30 for black levels in 2D mode then it should beat it in 3D mode with a working DI. I'll be interested in your comments. It also sounds like the BenQ 3D glasses are matched for this projector as they should be.

I had another look at Art's HW30 review and I could hardly find a word about its 3D performance -- did I miss something?
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Mark I was wrong my W7000 sample have the 0.22 firmware, same as yours.
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Since Kraine's review sample had the old firmware, there is now some basis that the W7000's performance will surpass that of the Acer H9500.
In other words a role reversal. Who is still in the game? Who got busted?
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Is it safe to send in the projector now and be sure to get the upgraded hardware and firmware?
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