Watched some more 3D and I've come to the conclusion that this will be my 3D projector of choice. Ghosting is VERY minimal and damn the 3D brightness is ridiculous. I toggled 3D on and off and the brightness in 3D, in it's insane 3D dynamic mode with glasses brightness set to high is almost brighter then the 2D cinema mode in eco mode for 2D!! BTW, I love the panasonic 3D3 glasses. Very light and rechargeable, and seem to have a neutral tint. I'm running the 3D glasses almost always in high brightness mode as there are only a very select few titles that need the benefit of slightly lower brightness to reduce ghosting to almost zero.
I'm actually pretty amazed at how this projector performs in 2D. I bought this projector from a place that has a 14 day return policy and I didn't really think I would keep it. Just needed seomething to play with over the holidays
I looked for reasons to get rid of it, but I can't now. The performance for the money is just too good.
You guys are probably wondering how this compares to expensive projectors like the X7, X70, VW90, INfoucs SP8602, etc that I've had in the past year.
Very well actually and beats the more expensive projectors in some categories
The 5010 too me is a combination of a DLP and LCOS in one machine.
The image on the 5010 REALLY POPS!! bright scenes have a three dimensional imagd that I did not see on any LCOS (the X70, VW90 are pretty close) It looks similar to the Infocus in bright scenes. Whites are WHITE, while the X70 has more of a "foggy" look in bright scenes.
I believe the brightness was around 700 lumens in best mode but it seems brighter then my X70, and Much brighter the the X7. Not sure if it could be just perception and the image dynamics that make it seem brighter then it really is. I really wan't someone to test the ANSI contrast on the 5010, as it's hard to imagine it no being really good. LCD in general has better ANSI then LCOS, while DLP has the highest ANSI. This might be the reason for the "pop". With the new D9 chip it very well may have gotten a bump.
Sharpness from corner to corner is perfect, as is the convergence. I DID NOT expect this at all from my prior experience from the 6500 and 8700. They had horrible convergence and average sharpness. Again, this may just be an exceptional unit it this regard and other 5010 may not be as good.
SDE (screen door effect) Yes it's visible at around 1 screen with too me, but even then it's not intrusive and really only visible in white scenes are scenes with solid colours. This may bother some people more then others. Pixel grid structure is extremely visible up close.
Motion is Very good. Ran the motion tests from the Japanese FPD benchmark disc and it reproduces motion as well as I have seen from any projector. No blurring or smearing, or loss of texture detail during the panning store front scene. Motion is about the same as a good DLP. FI works well with very few artifacts but is very aggressive in all modes and I really wouldn't use it for film content.
Blacks. Without the iris they are good to average, and with the iris it can get very close to the JVC on many scenes and the Epson has the blackest fade to black of any projector. (iris pretty much completely closes) Really dark movies with very low APL scenes still have a clearly visible advantage to the JVC. I would say that 80% of dark scenes would be very hard to tell the JVC and Epson apart for the average movie. However something like the move Afraid of the Dark which I recently watched, that has pretty much low APL scenes throughout favour the JVC.
The iris is generally not visible is very good most of the time. It can get tripped up once in a while but it's the best iris other the the Sony VW90 that I"ve seen. It is still noisy however, and it quiet scenes it can be annoying. It makes a kind of gurgling sound that while not high pitched is audible once in a while. I'm tolerating it right now, but I may just turn it off for some types of talky movies.
The picture is very digital looking. This is probably a great thing for some and a negative for others. It looks more like a giant LCD, but with better colour, motion, and black levels. Grain in films stands out like a mother ****er on the 5010. I tried MANY movies and newer "cleaner" films look great, some older stuff or even some newer films like Black Swan, that have grain or use it for "artistic" reasons, it really stands out. Even more so then the X70 with eshift. However the depth and detail is phenomenal, producing a 3D like picture. This doesn't have the "film look" at all really. The Sony and JVC looks a little more refined I guess I would say with a buttery smooth image that is reminicent of a GOOD cinema picture (hard to find nowadays withe the crap film projectors out there) but they lack the "pop" of the Epson in bright scenes.
Overall I would say that the Epson will be liked more by some then any of the LCOS machines out there. I really liked the improvement in dynamics from the X70 but the Epson takes it too another level. If you wan't a giant LCD flat panel like picture, then go with the Epson. If you wan't a smooth less noisy film like picture with ultimate blacks, go with an LCOS. They really are very different, but both very good
I'm really enjoying the Epson right now and may play with it for a while
BTW. Almost forgot to mention that this thing puts out massive light output in 2D in it's living room or dynamic modes. Now I know what a picture might look like on an HP screen
I don't really find these modes necessary for me as I have a bat cave but it's nice for doc, and sports, or if you dont have a light controlled room then the brightness would be a great addition. Living room mode looks fine in terms of colour, but the Dynamic mode has colour that is not very good but can be tweaked a bit for accuracy at the cost of some lumens.
I probably forgot some stuff so ask away.......