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post #1 of 25 Old 12-31-2011, 04:08 PM - Thread Starter
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Thought it might be a good idea to start a JVC wishlist for whatever replaces the RS45/55/65/X30/X70/X90


Here is my wishlist for JVC for whatever the RS45 replacement is......

1. Faster panels
2. FI available in 3d
3. Reduce lag and/or a gaming mode (to reduce lag)
4. Enough masking support to mask a 1.78 image top/bottom to 2.35/40 for variable aspect films
5. Reduce/eliminate flicker in 3d
6. Reduce ghosting for both blu ray 3d and 120hz content
7. Refine the lens memory so it hits dead on every time and include both iris and masking in the memory function so we dont have to manually change these each time we switch aspect ratios.
8. At least 4 memory presets for lens memory
9. CMS (yeah right.......but hey we can ask)
10. More stable lens and/or some sort of lens lock. My subs still sometimes knock the lens shift out of position slightly.
11. Improved/more refined CMD.


Those are all off the top of my head and might add more as I think of them.

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Stable and less expensive lamps
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Stable and less expensive lamps

LED bulb would be nice.

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Less expensive 3D glasses.
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Personally I think jvc will be behind again next year. They may get there 240 hz panels but I think Sony will have there laser projectors by cedia.
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I have only one wish, MUCH greater contrast ratio for MUCH darker blacks.

Its not going to happen but I can hope.
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Good List!

E-Shift for 3D

Shutter for fade to black moments for complete light block out or laser light source with total cut off of light.

4K input but retain 1080p Panels except in the highest end unit, where a 4K panel would be welcome.

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CMD that you don't have to wait an hour to engage (to avoid a red shift)

Improved CMD algorhythms
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Highest Priority
1. Eliminate/greatly reduce ghosting in 3D (faster panels?)
2. CMD in 3D

Mid Priority
3. Brighter 3D without having to resort to torch mode
4. More affordable bulbs
5. Further CMD improvements to remove judder/stutter
6. Even better black levels

Low Priority
7. CMS
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I have only one wish, MUCH greater contrast ratio for MUCH darker blacks.

Its not going to happen but I can hope.

Before I went FP I longed for this and the 10G Pioneer plasmas were supposed to be the first to get there. I've longed to see this for years but I've just about given up hope. This is either a major hurdle to overcome technically or else manufacturer's just don't see this as a money maker to invest research dollars into developing.
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My Hopes

Highest:
Faster Panels
Faster Panels
Faster Panels
More Reliable Bulbs

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Brighter 3D
Ghosting Issues Resolved

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Tweak CMD to help reduce judder/stutter

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Quieter fan on Normal brightness
FI in 3D
Eliminate ghosting
Better motion (240Hz panels)
If e-shift disappears to be replaced with true 4K input, have the projector do the upsampling.
More brightness & better contrast
CMD that is linear with different saturation levels
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I have only one wish, MUCH greater contrast ratio for MUCH darker blacks.

Its not going to happen but I can hope.

The high-end crt projectors (Marquee, Barco 909, Sony G90) I think have better contrast ratios and blacks than any current digital projector right? If so, I would definitely like the future JVCs to get to that level. I don't know how long that will take though....
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The high-end crt projectors (Marquee, Barco 909, Sony G90) I think have better contrast ratios and blacks than any current digital projector right? If so, I would definitely like the future JVCs to get to that level. I don't know how long that will take though....

I believe Darin measured a G70 with gamma correction at 700k to 1 on/off cr. The JVCs have a ways to go, but if they used an iris then they could get there.

After listening to Greg at the Epson demo state that the on/off was enough, I am starting to wonder if the manufacturers are even that concerned anymore with raising on/off.

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After listening to Greg at the Epson demo state that the on/off was enough, I am starting to wonder if the manufacturers are even that concerned anymore with raising on/off.

Greg Rogers? Link?

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Greg Rogers? Link?

Greg of THX. He was conducting the demo for Epson. No link, as he said it during the demo. He had the iris turned off, because he said it wasn't needed.

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Personally I think jvc will be behind again next year. They may get there 240 hz panels but I think Sony will have there laser projectors by cedia.

But won't these laser pj's cost $20K+, putting them out of range of the majority of HT enthusiast.
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Great list guys. I would add to the list- ensuring no bright corners and less unit to unit variation.
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Great list guys. I would add to the list- ensuring no bright corners and less unit to unit variation.

Excellent suggestions!

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Dis the UHP lamp, have individual scanning lasers(polarized light) one for each of the panels(R/G/B) and use the e-Shift panel at high frequency to eliminate speckle.

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1) Improve the Lamp and add a Dynamic IRIS mostly for blackouts
2) Improve the native and ansi contrast as much as possible
3) Get rid of the 3D entirely and reduce the cost of the projector, then we can buy a different projector for 3D
4) Fix the color gamut and make the OOTB grayscale track better more like the Sonys
5) Add a CMS to the lower-end models



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Here's my list for 2012 which simply centers around eliminating the current substandard characteristics. I'm not going to assume that I know the best technologies to achieve these goals, so leaving that up to the experts.

If these problems were not an issue (IMO) I would have stayed with JVC this year as a happy consumer...

Fix/address current defects (yeah that's right DEFECTS):
1. Lamps that don't last even 50% of the advertised expectancy
2. Panels that streak and are not uniform

Fix/address poorly performing features:
1. 3D ghosting
2. Motion blur
3. Flicker


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was there was a way to lock the settings so that they don't get changed by accident.
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was there was a way to lock the settings so that they don't get changed by accident.

That's pretty cool, have user password protected settings. Say 10 memories.

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