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The PD8130 is a lot nicer than the the Z30000. Also where do you see if for $750?
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The PD8130 is a lot nicer than the the Z30000. Also where do you see if for $750?

"Nicer" in what way?
My bad on the ebay listing... I could not find it again. I stumbled on it surfing for the 8130 reviews. I could not find it again. The one that I could find was $1500 or offer. It's unlikely that he would go down that far, but you might be able to match Zombie's price.
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It's nicer in most ways. Far better lens, larger DMD for a sharper picture and better native contrast performance, much better scaler/video processing, much better ootb color and ability to calibrate to perfection, one of the best DI's in the business, excellent built quality, two lens options, excellent ANSI contrast and better On/Off contrast performance, ect. Basically everything about it's picture quality is a step above the Z30K.
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I looked for online reviews of the 8130, but could only find one.
I see that there is an 8130 on ebay for $750.
Can you compare the 2D from the 8150 and the Z30K?
Both are mid level DLP machines from a few years back. I would expect them to look very similar.

When you look at them side by side, there's a few key differences. The Planar is sharper. I know the 30K looks nice and sharp and it definitely is. This is more refined pixel structure with clean, sharp separation between each pixel.

The other area is contrast. The Planar can get a richer feel in lower APL scenes but the 30k is still very good imo, comparable to the HW30 I had a while back.

The last area is color. The 8130 only needs minor calibration to get a near perfect greyscale, gamma and color gamut. The 30K can handle greyscale and gamma well, but struggles with the color gamut. The main issue is green has a shift towards greenish-yellow which is hard to correct but can fix it up a bit with the lumagen. Unless you know what to look for, most folks would miss it.

The 30K is much better at 3D than the 8130... biggrin.gif

I enjoy the overall 2D PQ of the 30K and use it all the time now for just quick TV, watching a concert and of course 3D. I have so many spare lamps, I might as well use it.

I also like the raw 2D performance of the Planar and considering ceiling mounting it since I can use it as a reference after calibrating other projectors.
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My bad on the ebay listing... the one that I could find was $1500 or offer. It's unlikely that he would go down that far, but you might be able to match Zombie's price.
Ha, you have to go to Brooklyn and watch a movie with the guy. From the listing; "NOTE: THIS LISTING ONLY FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE ABLE TO COME TO MY PLACE IN BROOKLYN PERSONALLY, TO SEE PROJECTOR, MAKE DECISION, PAY CASH and TAKE IT…."cool.gif
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I had never heard of the Planar PD8130 until it was mentioned in this thread.

Just out of curiosity, I checked the ebay listing mentioned above. Also noticed that a new replacement lamp (with housing) is going for almost $600!! Even a bare bulb from Hong Kong is almost three times the cost of the ones I purchased recently for my Sharp 30k!

I wonder what is so special about them that makes them so expensive? Unless it's the longer bulb life (4k hrs. in eco mode.) But even then... confused.gif
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I had never heard of the Planar PD8130 until it was mentioned in this thread.

Just out of curiosity, I checked the ebay listing mentioned above. Also noticed that a new replacement lamp (with housing) is going for almost $600!! Even a bare bulb from Hong Kong is almost three times the cost of the ones I purchased recently for my Sharp 30k!


http://www.dlplampsource.com/planar-997-5268-00-projector-replacement-lamp.html
I wonder what is so special about them that makes them so expensive? Unless it's the longer bulb life (4k hrs. in eco mode.) But even then... confused.gif

The PD8150/30sold for $7999/$6999 when they were in production and only from dealers. A consumer can not buy part or get any service info on them, Planar/Runco keeps things close to the vest
Bare lamp are $180 and are OEM http://www.dlplampsource.com/planar-997-5268-00-projector-replacement-lamp.html

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I'm a DLP fan, and intrigued by the the Planar. I'm sure it has a slightly better 2D picture than the Z30K. However, multiple projectors are not in the cards for us. The Z30K is newer, 3D ready, and has a very low operating cost (so far).
It has the characteristic DLP "pop" and good black levels, not to mention powered lens controls. I'm hoping to resist the sirens call for a new PJ until after 4K is $4K.
The only one I've seriously considered is a used/refurbed Sony W95ES. If one comes up at the right price...
Again, I consider it a vote of confidence that Zombie uses the Sharp for "day to day" watching. With his choices, it's a shot in the arm as to the overall PQ, reinforing what I can see with my own eyes. smile.gif
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I read reviews for Z3K, Benq W7500, and W1070. by numbers, contrast and brightness were worst on Z3K. But when I compared same pictures between them, 3K was noticeably sharper than the others. Colors were also more dynamic and vibrant. I am very convinced now to purchase it.

the website is zol.com.cn

Found this website with great price, anyone can confirm if its legit? only accepts Paypal, no credit

http://www.products4salez.com/sharp-sharp-xvz30000-multimedia-projector-p-28811.html

This is the other option, maybe more legit
http://www.exclusivetvs.com/sharp-xv-z3000-home-theater-projector-best-price.html?utm_source=Google%2BShopping&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=SPSGCGroup#fo_c=148&fo_k=344825939b54efe4dd6b368db963fd3d&fo_s=gshus
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I read reviews for Z3K, Benq W7500, and W1070. by numbers, contrast and brightness were worst on Z3K. But when I compared same pictures between them, 3K was noticeably sharper than the others. Colors were also more dynamic and vibrant. I am very convinced now to purchase it.

the website is zol.com.cn

Found this website with great price, anyone can confirm if its legit? only accepts Paypal, no credit

http://www.products4salez.com/sharp-sharp-xvz30000-multimedia-projector-p-28811.html

This is the other option, maybe more legit
http://www.exclusivetvs.com/sharp-xv-z3000-home-theater-projector-best-price.html?utm_source=Google%2BShopping&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=SPSGCGroup#fo_c=148&fo_k=344825939b54efe4dd6b368db963fd3d&fo_s=gshus

Thereis no doubt that both the sites have a great price (bordering on too good to be true).
From what I can see, there are not a lot of brand new OEM Z30Ks available any longer.
If you do get one at a discount, I would buy a 3rd party warranty, to protect yourself...
Good luck.
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Scamadviser.com gives "Products4salez" a trust rating of 10% out of 100. Not good.
Exclusivetvs.com gets a 88%, which they say "looks safe".

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for those interested, I have a pair of Sharp G30 glasses on the way, I'll post info once I get a chance to check them out. these might be perfect for kids since the G20's are a little too big for under 12.
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For a discontinued line, Sharp sure made a lot of different style 3D glasses.

Functionally, I assume that they're all the same. The G10's and G20's I own work equally well. And for around $20, the PS3 glasses are one of the best bargains out there.
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For a discontinued line, Sharp sure made a lot of different style 3D glasses.

Functionally, I assume that they're all the same. The G10's and G20's I own work equally well. And for around $20, the PS3 glasses are one of the best bargains out there.

I use the PS3 glasses and Epson's IR glasses with both the Sharp 30000 and Mits HC8000 and they work like a charm. I can't get the Sharp glasses to work at all with either projector (???).
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For a discontinued line, Sharp sure made a lot of different style 3D glasses.

Functionally, I assume that they're all the same. The G10's and G20's I own work equally well. And for around $20, the PS3 glasses are one of the best bargains out there.

+1 on the 3D glasses thing??? If they spent as much time, energy and $ developing and marketing their projectors as they did their glasses...
Having said that, all of the IR glasses I have tried with the Z30K work perfectly, including all the Sharp models. The only difference that I can see is fit and comfort.
With Sharp leaving the FP market, I assume that they are focusing on flat panels. Has anyone paired thier 3D glasses with their flat panel displays?
Looking forward to Zombie's G30 review. I really like the G20's. With the release of the G30's, I wonder if they will discount the G20's and close out the remaining stock?
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Since most report no 3D flicker with DLP, is this done by triple flashing each frame (for 72 fps to each eye) or by doing 3:2 pulldown (for 60 fps to each eye at the cost of some judder). I assume the main reason the JVC and Sony flicker is because of their 48 fps refresh per eye.
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Sharp G30 3D glasses - The G30 is in the front, G20, upper left - G10, upper right

sharp-glasses.jpg

Here's some quick thoughts:

  • Very nice construction quality
  • Similar overall design compared to the G20 glasses
  • more comfortable than the G10's, nice and light weight.
  • Size is perfect for smaller faces and children, I am definitely buying a few pairs of these.
  • Convenient switch on the top for going between 2D and 3D. This is a great feature since we do have folks who don't want to watch in 3D but this doesn't have to spoil it for everyone. (All 3 Sharp glasses have this feature).
  • Color tint is different, I have to see how much this affects 3D color calibration after they are activated. Sometimes the color appears a bit different when the shutters are on.
  • A+ recommendation, time to get rid of all my G10's and replace with G30's.

  • Have I ever mentioned the Sharp G20 glasses are my favorite of all 3D glasses I've had (a whole bunch!) I am sure I have mentioned this before... cool.gifbiggrin.gif

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This seller also sells on Amazon.
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I made ​​the order of the Z30K on Amazon. I also ordered 4 glasses G20 in a store of my country.

If I remember correctly the recommendations made in this post were:

For 3D : Stage mode, high brightness on the first iris and the 2nd iris set to 'ON'

For 2D: Stage mode, high contrast on the first iris and the 2nd iris set to 'ON'

Any other recommendations?

Thanks
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I made ​​the order of the Z30K on Amazon. I also ordered 4 glasses G20 in a store of my country.

If I remember correctly the recommendations made in this post were:

For 3D : Stage mode, high brightness on the first iris and the 2nd iris set to 'ON'

For 2D: Stage mode, high contrast on the first iris and the 2nd iris set to 'ON'

Any other recommendations?

Thanks

Your settings can depend on other factors like screen gain and room darkness. We settled on Stage mode for 3D. However for 2D sports we mostly use a custom setting with high brightness.
In 2D, Stage was too bright for some movies on our HP 2.8 screen. Depending on the transfer (film grain), for 2D movies we use either the custom setting or Movie mode.
Something that does not get mentioned much is the Z30K "global" memory settings. The powered controls and PJ settings work together to allow you to set up your preferences at the touch of a button. smile.gif
This is rare in a PJ at this price level.
One other factor is image processing. IMO, the Darbee interacts with the settings to really help the Z30K. By enhancing detail, the picture seems to get sharper and clearer. I found that there is almost synergistic relationship between the Darbee and the other PJ settings, such that it helps to "play" around with them to arrive at the most pleasing (to you) picture.
Perhaps Zombie will chime in and share his current settings. His set up, particularly color and iris, were the jump off point for us.

If you don't mind sharing, what did you end up paying for the Z30K on Amazon? Also, what is the warranty?
Have fun with your new toy; and please share your feedback.
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Your settings can depend on other factors like screen gain and room darkness. We settled on Stage mode for 3D. However for 2D sports we mostly use a custom setting with high brightness.
In 2D, Stage was too bright for some movies on our HP 2.8 screen. Depending on the transfer (film grain), for 2D movies we use either the custom setting or Movie mode.
Something that does not get mentioned much is the Z30K "global" memory settings. The powered controls and PJ settings work together to allow you to set up your preferences at the touch of a button. smile.gif
This is rare in a PJ at this price level.
One other factor is image processing. IMO, the Darbee interacts with the settings to really help the Z30K. By enhancing detail, the picture seems to get sharper and clearer. I found that there is almost synergistic relationship between the Darbee and the other PJ settings, such that it helps to "play" around with them to arrive at the most pleasing (to you) picture.
Perhaps Zombie will chime in and share his current settings. His set up, particularly color and iris, were the jump off point for us.

If you don't mind sharing, what did you end up paying for the Z30K on Amazon? Also, what is the warranty?
Have fun with your new toy; and please share your feedback.

Thanks.

I paid $3300 + shipping to the one selling from Amazon that does ship internationally (Crawford's Superstore). I hope to get it these days, so far it has been delayed sending, the shipping estimate was 26th or 27th and still have not sent.
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My Sharp XV-Z30000 is refusing to power up....and ideas.

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My Sharp XV-Z30000 is refusing to power up....and ideas.

This was my issue right after we got it. I posted about it in this thread.
We had an intermittent "turn on" problem. I started a trouble tag with Sharp customer service, but never followed through with a return. Their techs offered several things to try, none of which worked. I could have shipped it off and hoped for a repair or a refurb. However, new replacement units were in short supply. Besides the "ghost" turn on problem, the unit worked great. I was reluctant to part with it and take a chance on a "pot" luck replacement projector.
So, I worked out a fix. When the Z30K would not respond to the remote control "turn on" command, I would have to get out a 12 foot ladder and go up to it (cathedral ceiling mount). eek.gif I would then unplug the power cord and plug it back in again. This would "reset" the projector and it would respond to the remote control. Sometimes, it would go for a week or two before happening again. Then I would repeat the ladder trick and be good to go. Well, this got old fast.
It would have been easier if the Z30K had been on a dedicated electrical circuit, then I could have just flipped the breaker to reset it. However, the Sat receiver, wifi router and other equipment shared the same circuit and I did not want to cycle that stuff off and on. So, I installed a $10 RF switch (for Xmas tree lights) above the Z30K and plugged the power cord into it.. When it refuses to turn on, I toggle the RF switch and turn the juice off and on. The projector resets and we are good to go. On the plus side is that the problem has become much less frequent over time, but it still happens... I still can not figure out why it occurs, but Art at PR (and the Sharp techs) thought that it's probably related to some sort of interaction between one of my other remote controls or remote codes on the RF universal remote relay system that I use to control the equipment stack in the other room. Rather than try and track down the "ghost" I just learned to live with him. smile.gif

So Highjinx,
The first thing that I would do would be to unplug the projector...
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This was my issue right after we got it. I posted about it in this thread.
We had an intermittent "turn on" problem. I started a trouble tag with Sharp customer service, but never followed through with a return. Their techs offered several things to try, none of which worked. I could have shipped it off and hoped for a repair or a refurb. However, new replacement units were in short supply. Besides the "ghost" turn on problem, the unit worked great. I was reluctant to part with it and take a chance on a "pot" luck replacement projector.
So, I worked out a fix. When the Z30K would not respond to the remote control "turn on" command, I would have to get out a 12 foot ladder and go up to it (cathedral ceiling mount). eek.gif I would then unplug the power cord and plug it back in again. This would "reset" the projector and it would respond to the remote control. Sometimes, it would go for a week or two before happening again. Then I would repeat the ladder trick and be good to go. Well, this got old fast.
It would have been easier if the Z30K had been on a dedicated electrical circuit, then I could have just flipped the breaker to reset it. However, the Sat receiver, wifi router and other equipment shared the same circuit and I did not want to cycle that stuff off and on. So, I installed a $10 RF switch (for Xmas tree lights) above the Z30K and plugged the power cord into it.. When it refuses to turn on, I toggle the RF switch and turn the juice off and on. The projector resets and we are good to go. On the plus side is that the problem has become much less frequent over time, but it still happens... I still can not figure out why it occurs, but Art at PR (and the Sharp techs) thought that it's probably related to some sort of interaction between one of my other remote controls or remote codes on the RF universal remote relay system that I use to control the equipment stack in the other room. Rather than try and track down the "ghost" I just learned to live with him. smile.gif

So Highjinx,
The first thing that I would do would be to unplug the projector...
Good Luck.

Thanks Humbland, I did try the unplug trick initially but it had no effect, but will try again.

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Hi Humbland.....disconnected the projector, IR repeater, HDMI cable and power cord...moved the projector to a work surface....checked the power cord with another device, the cord was ok. Re-connected the power cord, attempted to fire it up..no dice, wasn't in the mood to try further, so I put the projector back in it's rack and reconnected it, thought I'll have a look at it in a couple of days.

....but I had to give the remote another try...heard the click of perhaps a power relay...and she fired up.

So thanks smile.gif again......try 2 or was it 3, paid off.

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Finally Amazon canceled my order. Crawford's Superstore did not have stock, it seems to have been either oversold !!!!

I thought was more serious the Amazon Marketplace!!!

Do you know any serious site that makes international shipping and having in stock the Z30K?
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Finally Amazon canceled my order. Crawford's Superstore did not have stock, it seems to have been either oversold !!!!

I thought was more serious the Amazon Marketplace!!!

Do you know any serious site that makes international shipping and having in stock the Z30K?

Crawford's doesn't have anything in stock. They just list a bunch on non current products. I messaged them about a JVC model they had listed on 2 different amazon listings that looked the same but had different prices. They pulled both the pages down and never answered my message. I'd stay away from them.
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Hi Humbland.....disconnected the projector, IR repeater, HDMI cable and power cord...moved the projector to a work surface....checked the power cord with another device, the cord was ok. Re-connected the power cord, attempted to fire it up..no dice, wasn't in the mood to try further, so I put the projector back in it's rack and reconnected it, thought I'll have a look at it in a couple of days.

....but I had to give the remote another try...heard the click of perhaps a power relay...and she fired up.

So thanks smile.gif again......try 2 or was it 3, paid off.

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One of the things that the Sharp tech suggested was to "reset" the remote control???
They suggested removing your remote batteries. (Check them and make sure they are strong).
Then replace the batteries and go to a spot where it will not effect the projector (or unplug the Z30K). You then slowly cycle the remote buttons sequentially from top to bottom. The tech insisted that this would help "clear" the remote codes in some way? I question weather it had any value, but it's worth a try. Also, it indicated to me that there was some "known" issue with the Z30K and remote response...In any case, I figure what the heck, it's easy to implement and might do something...
If you come up with a "solution" that works consistently, then please report back here or PM me.
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Crawford's doesn't have anything in stock. They just list a bunch on non current products. I messaged them about a JVC model they had listed on 2 different amazon listings that looked the same but had different prices. They pulled both the pages down and never answered my message. I'd stay away from them.

For more ridiculous back out on the amazon list saying that has one in stock.

I have bad luck with the purchase of this projector, first Rythercamera, I've been waiting over two months to process the order and now this happens me with Amazon.

It will be a sign that I have not to buy the projector?
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