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Are you testing with 100 or 75 on the saturation patterns? My projector is a great sample it's just not quite as tight as the 4910 I'm calibrating. It's took JVC several generations to get it this good out of the box.
If we are still talking about the planar, I ran the 25/50/75/100 sweeps, been over 2000 hours ago, need to recheck and see how much things have changed. The lamp seems very stable, watching the samsung panel at the same time next to it they look identical and that thing was spot on everywhere.
Truthfully since getting the planar I don't really think about it, everything looks so natural and real.. red is red, yellow yellow and skin looks like skin..
If you were talking about the Z30K you did not need a meter to see that lemons and yield sings were green and red was orange..
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sorry I should have been more specific. i was referring to the saturation pattern intensity. most run @ 100%, some projectors i've seen are off with the 75% tests.

the only real issue on my particular 30k is the greens/yellows, red is ok. I am able to work with it on the lumagen but there isn't enough range to correct it fully. it would have been better if they used the unishape setup from the Planar.
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sorry I should have been more specific. i was referring to the saturation pattern intensity. most run @ 100%, some projectors i've seen are off with the 75% tests.
The DPG2000 has both the 25/50/75/100 saturation and luminous patterns which if I recall I ran both. 30k was all over the place.. not even close if you were half blind and crosseye.. anyway, as you say, without a working CMS there wasn't much that could be done.

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Hello there,does somebody got a Nice second hand Sharp Z30000 for sale?
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It looks like the used supply has dried up. I see that there are several new on Amazon for $4K range.
Zombie follows these things, perhaps he will chime in with a suggestion.
You could try posting in the AVS classifieds, or maybe on Craigslist...
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Hello there,does somebody got a Nice second hand Sharp Z30000 for sale?
Somebody?
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Somebody?
I hope you can find one. I would like to see this thread kick started. It seems that the AVS world has moved on. Finding one for the Woot price, or anything near it is probably unrealistic...However, it does not mean that if you really want one, you can't get it.
My suggestion would be to contact the Amazon sellers directly and make them an offer. The product cycle is a bit "long in the tooth".
If you offer everyone say $3K for one, I think you have a reasonably good chance...The same goes for the classified. If you really want one, then put a number on it. I would sell ours at the right price. I'm sure there are others who feel the same way.
Post back when you find it.
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what's interesting is how many woot sold and yet we hardly ever see them for sale. That was a heck of a price.
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I had guests over last night and took the back row under the PJ and was still stunned at how silent the thing is and the PQ is still just stunning. I consider myself lucky and glad to have jumped on this.

Will need to start thinking about bulb supplies soon. What is the latest on that? Has those deals dried up also?

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There's plenty of the lamps still out there

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Origi...179348301.html

it's the SHP135 model
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There's plenty of the lamps still out there

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Origi...179348301.html

it's the SHP135 model
Zombie, thanks for the "head's up". FWIW, the link to the Z30K lamp currently has a $5 off coupon with free shipping to the US (for the next 3 days).
I'm still using the original lamp. I originally bought a spare (at the higher price), but I'm hoping to upgrade to the next level PJ before I would need a third one. However, at this price it may make sense to buy it and just include it with the PJ when it comes time to sell.
Having said that, we are still enjoying the beautiful Sharp, clear, picture.
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I bought 2 of the SHP135 lamps from AliExpress a while back. (I still have, and use 2 Sharp 30K's.)

Using Zombies excellent tutorial, I changed the lamp in one of them and used it for about 50 hours. Brightness (measured with a light meter) was the same as the original lamp. Then I switched over to the one that still has the original lamp, and have used that one for about 600 hours.

Later tonight, I'll start using the 30K with the replacement lamp again. I had originally intended to switch back and forth every 100 hours or so, but got lazy. Anyway, before I switch over again, I'll take another measurement with the light meter. Then, when I have about 600 hours on the replacement lamp, I'll report back. This may take a while though.

From what I've been reading here, it seems that the replacement lamps are at least equal in quality to the ones that come with the unit. So I'm not really worried about any problems such as early dimming, or explosions.

I still use my 30K for all of my 3D viewing, and am absolutely thrilled with the flicker and ghost free performance.
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There's plenty of the lamps still out there

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Origi...179348301.html

it's the SHP135 model

awesome! thank you. Never ordered from them before but I assume the gang here has which is good enough for me.

BTW - Any reason this cheaper one will not work?
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Whole...506801572.html

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Hot-S...218127041.html

edit: Oh, an Alibaba outlet, now I remember.

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those others should be fine. The one I posted shows several photos and the material for the wiring cover matches the factory one perfect, so it seems like a safe bet.

At 50 hours I took out the original lamp and have been running the replacement this past year with no issues. This must be a common lamp used in other Sharp projectors since they are so easy to get.
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I too bought two from Aliexpress and am using one of them right now. I can attest to them being legit. I switched out the original somewhere just over 2000 hours but don't remember how many hours I have on the replacement lamp right now. I'll check and get back to you.
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awesome! thank you. Never ordered from them before but I assume the gang here has which is good enough for me.

BTW - Any reason this cheaper one will not work?
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Whole...506801572.html

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Hot-S...218127041.html

edit: Oh, an Alibaba outlet, now I remember.

Wow! $60 each for spare lamps...Has anyone tried these?
At these prices, it makes sense to just leave the Z30K on 24/7
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I became nervous after reading your threads. I ran to check my bulb life on the original bulb after 1.5 years with this PJ; 1058hrs @ 50% life. I then ran and checked my inventory of spare bulbs ( Thanks for the Alibaba tip Zombie!) I have four. I believe will provide 8 years of viewing at the current rate, including teenagers gaming on the 30K.. unreal...
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I too bought two from Aliexpress and am using one of them right now. I can attest to them being legit. I switched out the original somewhere just over 2000 hours but don't remember how many hours I have on the replacement lamp right now. I'll check and get back to you.
biliam1982,
I have been hoping that someone with "higher mileage" on the Z30K would post their experiences...
Why did you change at 2000 hrs? Was there a noticeable drop in brightness?
I'm curious as to when the inevitable bulb decline becomes a factor.
Anyone else out there with a second (or third) bulb in play?
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Sharp 30K has been my daily driver for internet surfing and ESPN/Sports. I am on my second $69 AliExpress bulb. Been changing them at just north of 1000 hours. There is more life in them I just don't like any drop off in brightness. I am projecting onto a 2.35 150" diagonal Seymour XD screen from about 18'.

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perhaps this is a question for Zombie, however I notice there is a SHP136 which appears to have 40 more watts. Would this work on this PJ assuming the connector is the same?

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biliam1982,
I have been hoping that someone with "higher mileage" on the Z30K would post their experiences...
Why did you change at 2000 hrs? Was there a noticeable drop in brightness?
I'm curious as to when the inevitable bulb decline becomes a factor.
Anyone else out there with a second (or third) bulb in play?
Eric, the only reason I changed it out after 2K hours was because it said it had something like 5-10% life left.

I saw no perceivable loss of light, flickering of the lamp or any other reason that it would fail.

Just that it was at end of life and I had enough motivation at the moment to change it out.

I'm at almost 700 hours on the replacement lamp with no issues so far.
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perhaps this is a question for Zombie, however I notice there is a SHP136 which appears to have 40 more watts. Would this work on this PJ assuming the connector is the same?

That's something I personally wouldn't advise using. You have to remember the cooling solution inside the projector is built specifically around that bulb and it's normal operating temperatures. If you put in a bulb that's brighter, that typically means it outputs more heat too and the cooling solution inside the projector might have an issue keeping up with this extra heat.

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perhaps this is a question for Zombie, however I notice there is a SHP136 which appears to have 40 more watts. Would this work on this PJ assuming the connector is the same?
If I had a spare unit, I would probably try it. The cooling system on the 30K is impressive, especially compared to some other DLP model's I've had here including the Planar which can get very warm in high lamp. The Sharp runs surprisingly cool and the cool down times are almost hard to believe.

The chassis of the 30K came from this model which was a 5000 lumen business projector. Maybe it had a beefed up cooling system or just generally good engineering to keep the lamp cool.

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For those interested in keeping track of lamp brightness, this is what I've logged so far:

Measurements taken from center of my DIY Wilsonart Designer White screen using full screen 100 ire white pattern from AVS test disc. 120” Screen 1.3 Gain.

Note: I own 2 Sharp 30k projectors. Both purchased from a third party Amazon.com seller at the same time just about a year ago.

Sharp 30k #1 (with lamp it shipped with) STAGE setting. ECO mode. at 100 hours = 18.1 FC (773 Lumens)
Note: Unfortunately, I didn't check the Hi Brite lamp mode at 100 hours, only ECO.

Sharp 30k #1 (with lamp it shipped with) STAGE setting. ECO mode. at 700 hours = 14.9 FC (637 Lumens)
Sharp 30k #1 (with lamp it shipped with) STAGE setting. HI BRITE mode. at 700 hours = 30.1 FC (1,286 Lumens)

I've only put about 60 hours so far on my Sharp 30k #2 (I changed out the factory lamp which had 40 hours on it, with the AliExpress one) But at the present time, the readings are as follows:

Sharp 30k #2 (with AliExpress lamp) STAGE setting. ECO mode. at 60 hours = 18.2 FC (777 Lumens)
Sharp 30k #2 (with AliExpress lamp) STAGE setting. HI BRITE mode. at 60 hours = 34.0 FC (1,453 Lumens)

As you can see, there has been a 19% loss in brightness on projector #1 between 100 and 700 hours.

It will be interesting to compare the loss in brightness over time between the 2 lamps. I'll post another update when the AliExpress lamp has about 700 hours on it. Might be a while though.
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For those interested in keeping track of lamp brightness, this is what I've logged so far:

Measurements taken from center of my DIY Wilsonart Designer White screen using full screen 100 ire white pattern from AVS test disc. 120” Screen 1.3 Gain.

Note: I own 2 Sharp 30k projectors. Both purchased from a third party Amazon.com seller at the same time just about a year ago.

Sharp 30k #1 (with lamp it shipped with) STAGE setting. ECO mode. at 100 hours = 18.1 FC (773 Lumens)
Note: Unfortunately, I didn't check the Hi Brite lamp mode at 100 hours, only ECO.

Sharp 30k #1 (with lamp it shipped with) STAGE setting. ECO mode. at 700 hours = 14.9 FC (637 Lumens)
Sharp 30k #1 (with lamp it shipped with) STAGE setting. HI BRITE mode. at 700 hours = 30.1 FC (1,286 Lumens)

I've only put about 60 hours so far on my Sharp 30k #2 (I changed out the factory lamp which had 40 hours on it, with the AliExpress one) But at the present time, the readings are as follows:

Sharp 30k #2 (with AliExpress lamp) STAGE setting. ECO mode. at 60 hours = 18.2 FC (777 Lumens)
Sharp 30k #2 (with AliExpress lamp) STAGE setting. HI BRITE mode. at 60 hours = 34.0 FC (1,453 Lumens)

As you can see, there has been a 19% loss in brightness on projector #1 between 100 and 700 hours.

It will be interesting to compare the loss in brightness over time between the 2 lamps. I'll post another update when the AliExpress lamp has about 700 hours on it. Might be a while though.
Thx for taking the time to do measurements!

Looking forward to your future posts!
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I know it ticks me off, I would much prefer this projector instead of the Benq w7000 I have. Actually I would have sold both the JVC and the Benq to get the Sharp, because the blacks are good enough for me on the Sharp. Unfortunately, I bought the Benq right before the sharp deal, I remember looking at the WOOT deal and being 1 day past my return policy on the Benq. It's all your fault too because you talked me into the Benq


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Sometimes I regret having sold the Sharp XV-Z30000 after being disappointed with its color and input lag, but at that time 2D was my priority. Given the option, I would have it now just for 3D. But given current prices and availability I'm not worrying too much... Besides, new 3D DLP projectors with 1080p60 3D support (HDMI 2 inputs) are not far away. I think we will see them next year from BenQ and Optoma.
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