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Please excuse the noob question, but what should the reading be at the screen?
Checking so infrequently (read never) until now, it's hard to justify a large expense.
This model is the most popular on Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/Dr-Meter-LX13...QB1PHJ0ZJQN4QD

Will it do the job?
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That will probably do the job. Here is a thread on how to measure lumens -

Using the CA813 light meter to measure your front projector
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Hi Craig,
Please excuse the noob question, but what should the reading be at the screen?
Checking so infrequently (read never) until now, it's hard to justify a large expense.
This model is the most popular on Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/Dr-Meter-LX13...QB1PHJ0ZJQN4QD

Will it do the job?
Thoughts?
Thanks, yes that other one was almost two bulbs (albeit probably better with more features), at least this one is at a good price.

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Hi, just bought a used Z30K, looking for the 3D emitter which is not included. Difficult to find replacement everywhere. Wondering if those Xpand models will work. Hope someone has tried could give some comment. thanks.
just a follow up. I have tried Xpand 105 and Optoma BC300. neither is working. still searching...
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just a follow up. I have tried Xpand 105 and Optoma BC300. neither is working. still searching...
Did you try Sharp customer service? They were helpful when we had issues.
They are no longer in the FP business, but they may still support their own hardware. If not, then they may point you somewhere. Worth a try...
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Did you try Sharp customer service? They were helpful when we had issues.
They are no longer in the FP business, but they may still support their own hardware. If not, then they may point you somewhere. Worth a try...
tried already, no luck. Find a nearest replacement on ebay, asking for 350$! back to search...
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tried already, no luck. Find a nearest replacement on ebay, asking for 350$! back to search...
Zombie is usually our go to for this type of tech advice.
I would PM him.
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Zombie is usually our go to for this type of tech advice.
I would PM him.
I've been looking at various places online to try and find the IR emitter. I think it was quite proprietary to this projector which will make finding one tough. I will keep looking.
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here is my finding @$345.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sharp-3D-Syn...-/152491186270

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Dammit, my Z30k shut down on its own again tonight, for no apparent reason. It was running fine for about two hours. I left the room for a few minutes and when I came back the projector was off and the Power light was blinking.

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it's time to break out the screwdriver, I have the service manual if you are interested. It may be worth popping off the top case and seeing if anything obvious is happening like a fan that is still spinning but not at full speed. or any loose wiring from the fan controllers, etc.

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This might help also before opening it up. I don't recall looking for this but they are stating there is a status in the factory menu that will store error history.

if it's a temp error then one of the fans could be suspect.


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This might help also before opening it up. I don't recall looking for this but they are stating there is a status in the factory menu that will store error history.

if it's a temp error then one of the fans could be suspect.
I can't figure out how to get into the Factory Menu. I have the service manual, and it has a bunch of references in it to the Factory Menus or the Process Menu, but I'll be damned if I can find any instructions for how to enter it.

I Googled "Sharp projector factory menu" and found the following, but neither of these methods worked when I tried them.

Sharp Projector Service Menu Access Method 1

  1. Press {UP}, {UP}, {DOWN}, {DOWN}, {RIGHT}, {LEFT} & {ENTER} buttons on the remote control.
Sharp Projector Service Menu Access Method 2

  1. Press {INPUT}, {UP}, {DOWN}, {ENTER}, {ENTER} & {MENU} buttons on the back of the Projector.
  2. To exit the Service Menu: Press {INPUT}, {UP}, {DOWN}, {ENTER}, {ENTER} & {MENU} buttons again on the back of the Projector.

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I can't figure out how to get into the Factory Menu. I have the service manual, and it has a bunch of references in it to the Factory Menus or the Process Menu, but I'll be damned if I can find any instructions for how to enter it.

I Googled "Sharp projector factory menu" and found the following, but neither of these methods worked when I tried them.

Sharp Projector Service Menu Access Method 1

  1. Press {UP}, {UP}, {DOWN}, {DOWN}, {RIGHT}, {LEFT} & {ENTER} buttons on the remote control.
Sharp Projector Service Menu Access Method 2

  1. Press {INPUT}, {UP}, {DOWN}, {ENTER}, {ENTER} & {MENU} buttons on the back of the Projector.
  2. To exit the Service Menu: Press {INPUT}, {UP}, {DOWN}, {ENTER}, {ENTER} & {MENU} buttons again on the back of the Projector.
At the bottom of Page 4-4 there's this poorly translated text:

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Calling and quitting the process mode with the control keys on this model.
* Although it is possible for the process OUT to exit using the process menu.
1) Calling and quitting
With the menu not displayed, press the “ENTER”, “ENTER”, “Right ”, “Left ”, “ENTER”, “ENTER” and “MENU” keys on the KEY unit.
NOTE: When adjusting in the process mode, set a signal with a vertical frequency of 60 Hz or no signal. (May not be properly adjusted with other signals.)

Resetting the lamp timer for this model
1) Resetting procedure
In Stand-by, run this command to clear the operating time of the lamp to 0 and turn on the power.
Press and hold “Down ”, “ENTER”, and “MENU”, and then press the “STANDBY/ON” key of the set.
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At the bottom of Page 4-4 there's this poorly translated text:
OK, thanks. I'll try it tomorrow. What is the Key Unit? Does that mean the projector body rather than the remote?

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OK, thanks. I'll try it tomorrow. What is the Key Unit? Does that mean the projector body rather than the remote?
I'd imagine that was poorly translated and meant to mean "remote".
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I would open it up at this point, they give 4 locations to check the connections to see if there are any obvious issues. Also a chance to inspect the fans and manually spin them to see if they are catching (bad bearings, etc).
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I would open it up at this point, they give 4 locations to check the connections to see if there are any obvious issues. Also a chance to inspect the fans and manually spin them to see if they are catching (bad bearings, etc).
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Don't be too scared to take the top off the chassis. Single chip DLP projectors are relatively simple designed projectors compared to the three chip brethren we see from Epson, Sony and JVC. Plus taking the top off won't take long or pose a difficult and lengthy process/problem. All you'd be doing is checking that connections aren't loose and that the fans are spinning freely. Not much of a tear down process. I've had the top off of the Z30K when I had it here. It's relatively easy to take off compared to some of the other projectors (even other si ngle chip DLPs) that I've had here. If you lived in upstate New York I'd gladly offer my assistance.

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Don't be too scared to take the top off the chassis. Single chip DLP projectors are relatively simple designed projectors compared to the three chip brethren we see from Epson, Sony and JVC. Plus taking the top off won't take long or pose a difficult and lengthy process/problem. All you'd be doing is checking that connections aren't loose and that the fans are spinning freely. Not much of a tear down process. I've had the top off of the Z30K when I had it here. It's relatively easy to take off compared to some of the other projectors (even other si ngle chip DLPs) that I've had here. If you lived in upstate New York I'd gladly offer my assistance.
I would have gutted that projector like a fish by now if it was acting up like that.

maybe he'll send it to one of us for a surgery session. The best case would be a bad fan or loose connection. if any of the components are shot, it's going to be near impossible to get parts.

I've been watching a lot of 3D on this lately. it's still amazes me how good 3D is on this projector (no x-talk, no flicker). I just discovered after many years that it has lens memory, ahead of it's time for 2012.
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I have family in Clayton, but it's a long drive from here.

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I got into the factory menu tonight.

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The best case would be a bad fan or loose connection. if any of the components are shot, it's going to be near impossible to get parts.
Would a fan not qualify as a "component"? As I recall, humbland sent his original Z30k in for repair and the fan couldn't be replaced, so they eventually sent him a different refurbed projector.

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Would a fan not qualify as a "component"? As I recall, humbland sent his original Z30k in for repair and the fan couldn't be replaced, so they eventually sent him a different refurbed projector.
I think it depends which fan, it might be able to be replaced with an equivalent size / CFM rating if we can identify which one could be having an issue.
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There's fan 1 and 2 in the first photo. power supply and front right intake. both look like traditional square fans.




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I may have to jimmy open the 30K and install some noctua fans.

all the sharp original parts are gone, I just looked from the service manual, no one has them. But these don't look too hard to source.
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It's good to see it's just a fan. That's an easy fix. Like Zombie said, you can use an equivalent size fan with the same CMF rating if you can't find the same exact model. Fans are standardized so they normally can be used in multiple applications if need be. I say "normally" because on occasion they can have a custom shape or size. I didn't look too hard into the service manual to see what the fans look like. I'll take a look now.
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There's also a fan here that cools the lamp chamber directly:



If it's that fan it will be a bit harder to find a replacement for.
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yes if it's that one it could be tough depending on the size. I just checked the service menu, my history is clear. The projector has ~700 original hours.




I watched Underworld 3D on this recently, the iris works surprisingly well in 3D mode.
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There's also a fan here that cools the lamp chamber directly:



If it's that fan it will be a bit harder to find a replacement for.
How will I tell which fan it is?
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