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Here's all 4 fan part numbers:

NFANRA090WJ00 - Power Fan (Can be purchased here)
NFANRA106WJ00 - Exhaust Fan (Can be purchased here)
NFANRA090WJ00 - Intake Fan (Can be purchased here)
NFANSA028WJ00 - Lamp Fan (Can be purchased here)
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all these years I had no idea the 30K could handle DLP Link, I thought it was IR only

in the 3D service menu

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Here's all 4 fan part numbers:

NFANRA090WJ00 - Power Fan (Can be purchased here)
NFANRA106WJ00 - Exhaust Fan (Can be purchased here)
NFANRA090WJ00 - Intake Fan (Can be purchased here)
NFANSA028WJ00 - Lamp Fan (Can be purchased here)
I saw that but they are 'special order' for all parts. Who knows if they will actually be able to get them.
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I saw that but they are 'special order' for all parts. Who knows if they will actually be able to get them.
True, but having the part numbers can be handy.
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for the 3 square fans, at first glance I would guess ~ 60MM.

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Hi,

How can I remove the battery from the G30 Glasses?

I read the manual and it indicates that I have to remove the arms. How can I remove the arms without breaking them?

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How can I enter into he service menu?

Thanks.

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Well, I think I'm screwed. I never sent my Z30k in for servicing because I didn't want to risk it being a huge waste of time and money that would leave me with a projector more broken than when I started. It's been working consistently fine for several months since the last flare-up. Last night, unfortunately, it shut down on its own after a few minutes.

Typically when this happens, I'll let it cool off for the night and it'll be fine the next day. This time, however, it won't turn on at all.

I'm out of my warranty period, even with the credit card extension.

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Well, I think I'm screwed. I never sent my Z30k in for servicing because I didn't want to risk it being a huge waste of time and money that would leave me with a projector more broken than when I started. It's been working consistently fine for several months since the last flare-up. Last night, unfortunately, it shut down on its own after a few minutes.

Typically when this happens, I'll let it cool off for the night and it'll be fine the next day. This time, however, it won't turn on at all.

I'm out of my warranty period, even with the credit card extension.
1) What happens after you plug the projector in, does the standby / "receiving power indicator" light still work?

2) What happens when you attempt to turn it on, does it even whir or make any noises or lights come on, or does it do absolutely nothing?

I would open up the top of the projector and give it a good sniff to see if anything smells unusually burnt.

You need to test the power supply of the projector and see if the problem was in the power supply, or if it is in the other electronics.
If it is one of the boards, then yah, you're probably screwed short of finding a used broken Sharp on Ebay that you could cannibalize for parts.

If it just overheated, the problem could be anything, could be a ram module on the board, or even just the main processor that the projector uses.

You can potentially test all the diodes, resistors, and capacitors on the board... It will however take forever. It's not hard, it's just a ridiculous amount of labor and it may not even find the problem. However, it might be worth taking at least a day and checking the larger parts on the board, the ones you can easily re-solder. You can learn how to test caps, resistors, and diodes from Google.

Generally, the bad cap/res/diode will sometimes be close to the power source (where the power supply meets the board), but first you have to eliminate the power supply as being the culprit or the other steps are a complete waste of time.

Also, make sure there is no kill switch inside the projector. Some projectors once overheated enough, a switch/button will be permanently set inside the projector because it overheated way too much. You may need to reset it.

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1) What happens after you plug the projector in, does the standby / "receiving power indicator" light still work?
Yes, that light turns on.

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2) What happens when you attempt to turn it on, does it even whir or make any noises or lights come on, or does it do absolutely nothing?
The projector tries to turn on. It makes whirring noises and both the Power and Lamp lights start blinking. But then it immediately turns off after about three seconds without the lamp striking.

The lamp was just replaced a few months ago and was OEM, so I'm going to be really pissed if it burned out already. The projector was working fine on Saturday.

I'm afraid that some of your suggestions re: testing diodes are above my skill set.

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Yes, that light turns on.



The projector tries to turn on. It makes whirring noises and both the Power and Lamp lights start blinking. But then it immediately turns off after about three seconds without the lamp striking.

The lamp was just replaced a few months ago and was OEM, so I'm going to be really pissed if it burned out already. The projector was working fine on Saturday.

I'm afraid that some of your suggestions re: testing diodes are above my skill set.
It could just be a dead fan, you need to look at all the fans (open the PJ case if you have to when turning on the PJ), and see if they all are turning when you turn the projector on. As far as testing diodes, it's actually simple, the hard part is de-soldering the things in order to hook a voltmeter to it, so yah it's not usually practical. Defective caps can sometimes be seen by eye, they will sometimes be split, warped, discolored, or have a leaky look.

The key is to also to smell for that burnt smell, almost like burnt rubber with a hint of burnt plastic.

Testing diodes, caps, and resistors is very simple with a voltmeter, the problem isn't testing them (a first grader can do it), the problem is de-soldering them in the first place in order to hook a voltmeter to it (they cannot generally be tested consistently while on the board, in some certain sequences I believe they can though).
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The lamp was just replaced a few months ago and was OEM, so I'm going to be really pissed if it burned out already. The projector was working fine on Saturday.

I'm afraid that some of your suggestions re: testing diodes are above my skill set.
Yup, check the lamp and the fans first, that is the troubleshooting order. Then if that doesn't work, I'd try to eliminate the power supply.
You may be able to order a new power supply from a place you can return it (no idea), and test hooking a new P/S to the projector.

It sounds like the lamp probably went out, but given your previous issues, I'd also suspect overheating.

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Didn't you already see FAN errors in the service menu a few months ago? if one finally died it's probably not going to fully 'boot up'.

The top is pretty easy to take off, it's just a few screws. You would be able to get a visual on most of the fans to see which one isn't working.


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The top is pretty easy to take off, it's just a few screws. You would be able to get a visual on most of the fans to see which one isn't working.
How do I tell which one isn't working if the projector won't turn on?

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The key is to also to smell for that burnt smell, almost like burnt rubber with a hint of burnt plastic.
Yeah, I do recall noticing something like that in my basement recently. I don't remember if it was during a time I was using the projector or not, though.

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with the top cover off you can spin the 3 accessible fans with compressed air to see if any are binding or stuck.

One of those fans is likely the issue since it triggered an event in the service menu previously.

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I did absolutely nothing with the Z30000k since the projector seemingly died on me. I just left it unplugged for about a week while I defaulted to using my other projector instead (which is also acting flaky on me - Argh!).

Today, for the hell of it, I decided to plug in the Z30000k and try to turn it on, just to see what would happen. Surprisingly, it turned right on with no problems. Worried that it might turn itself off after a few minutes, I let it run for about half an hour. Knock on wood, it seems OK for now.

Looks like it was another fan lockup issue. I'm sure this isn't the last problem I'll have, but it's good to know that the projector isn't fully out of commission just yet.

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I took the hood off tonight. I'm not really sure what I'm doing in there, so I didn't mess with much.

Attempts to move the fans with compressed air came to nothing. Only one of the fans is at all "accessible" without disassembling more. That one moved freely when I physically pushed it, so that's something, I guess.

I did not attempt to power the projector on in this state.

I don't think this accomplished much.

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I took the hood off tonight. I'm not really sure what I'm doing in there, so I didn't mess with much.

Attempts to move the fans with compressed air came to nothing. Only one of the fans is at all "accessible" without disassembling more. That one moved freely when I physically pushed it, so that's something, I guess.

I did not attempt to power the projector on in this state.

I don't think this accomplished much.

Put the projector next to an opened PC desktop and try running each fan one at a time off a PC PSU molex. Should be able to identify the broken fan in less than 30min assuming all the projector fan molexes are accessible (they appear to be from your pic).
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Put the projector next to an opened PC desktop and try running each fan one at a time off a PC PSU molex. Should be able to identify the broken fan in less than 30min assuming all the projector fan molexes are accessible (they appear to be from your pic).
Yeah, I have no idea how to do that.

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I ran the projector for about three hours last night. No problems, other than that the lamp has taken a very noticeable drop in brightness (and I assume life expectancy), which is a real bummer given that it's essentially a new lamp. Less than 100 hours on it.

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74 pages and 2200 posts. It's been fun while it lasted, but it seems like this thread has gone quiet...
Just checked our lamp hours and we are at 1700+. The Z30K seems noticeably dimmer to me as of late.
I'm wondering how many of you are still Sharp people (PJ humor).
How many hours are on your bulb? Anyone changed their bulb out recently? Did it make a significant difference in brightness?
If you recall, our Z30K is in low earth orbit on a cathedral ceiling mount. It takes deployment of a 12 foot ladder to get to it. I'm not excited about balancing way up there in order to change out the bulb.
Has anybody let their bulb go past 2000 hrs? Any down side to just letting it burn out?

I keep hoping that the DLP guys will hurry up with 4K projectors. Their have been several new releases as of late (encouraging). However, none have included powered lens controls (discouraging). Perhaps in 2018.

In the mean time, we still enjoy the Z30K/Darbee combination.

Anybody else out there???
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Just checked our lamp hours and we are at 1700+. The Z30K seems noticeably dimmer to me as of late.
I'm wondering how many of you are still Sharp people (PJ humor).
How many hours are on your bulb? Anyone changed their bulb out recently? Did it make a significant difference in brightness?
If you recall, our Z30K is in low earth orbit on a cathedral ceiling mount. It takes deployment of a 12 foot ladder to get to it. I'm not excited about balancing way up there in order to change out the bulb.
Has anybody let their bulb go past 2000 hrs? Any down side to just letting it burn out?

I keep hoping that the DLP guys will hurry up with 4K projectors. Their have been several new releases as of late (encouraging). However, none have included powered lens controls (discouraging). Perhaps in 2018.

In the mean time, we still enjoy the Z30K/Darbee combination.

Anybody else out there???
There's was only a handful of 30K owners here to begin with. I only have around 800 hours on the lamp and it's still plenty bright at this time. Do you have a lamp replacement available? The SHP135 lamps are still available and easy to swap with the instructions I posted in this thread a few years ago.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Phoenix-SHP1...cAAOSwnGJWSqrs

I plan on keeping mine for years until we get a replacement that has at least matching native contrast, 1400:1 Optoma and 1100:1 BenQ XPR is going backwards from the 30K's native and neither can do 3D at this time which the 30K does an excellent job with.

also full automated lens shift / focus as well. none of that is likely coming anytime soon. if you like the overall PQ I would just tough it out and swap out that lamp. It will look brand new again and good for a few more years.
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Hi Jason,
Thanks for the pep talk.
I have a replacement Phoenix bulb (bare) and also a replacement lamp assembly. Your lamp instructions did the trick when I tried to fix the "phantom" turn off issue with my original Z30K. I'm thinking to just swap out the new (OEM) lamp assembly from the ladder, then do a bulb swap on the one that came out of the PJ.
I value your opinion.
When do you think we will see a 4K DLP with good contrast and powered lens controls?
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