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DigitalAV 01-09-2012 10:56 AM

Can Sharp make a triumphant return to the FP game...? Looking forward to CES reports on this.

Highlights:
  • 1600 ANSI lumens
  • 50,000:1 Contrast Ratio
  • Motorized horizontal and vertical lens shift
  • 2x 3-D Glasses, IR emitter included
  • $4,999 MSLP
  • March 2012

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LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)-- Sharp unveiled its latest 3D capable high-definition DLP home theater projector. Providing unparalleled 3D visuals, the XV-Z30000 features 50000:1 contrast ratio and 1600 ANSI lumens to deliver superior brightness, astounding clarity, and color accuracy.

“No matter what the content, the XV-Z30000 offers consumers a compelling entertainment projection solution,” said Jim Sanduski, vice president, strategic product marketing, Sharp Electronics Marketing Company of America, a division of Sharp Electronics Corporation. “With a focus on providing consumers with superior entertainment experiences, this front projector is ideal for the dedicated home theater or viewing room and is a welcome addition to any home entertainment experience.”

Part of the XV-Z30000’s superior picture quality is due to the DLP advantage. All Sharp front projectors incorporate mirror-based components that use light more efficiently by bringing more light from lamp to screen. In addition, with Sharp’s proprietary digital image ICs, the XV-Z30000 reproduces high quality 3D picture with low cross talk and flicker.

The projector’s lens functions also make it a good choice for those looking for a high-quality home theater experience. It features flexible installation with center lens and lens shift; the center lens design allows for easy adjustment; and the wide range horizontal and vertical lens shift function allows for flexible installation. In addition, with the motorized lens shift function, customers can select their preferable setting position. The projector also has control function with Creston, Control 4, AMX, and RS 232C port and LAN control via network.

Adding to the XV-Z30000’s appeal is its ease of use. With the wide range 2x optical zoom, users can select the preferable ceiling mount position in the room. Or, for spontaneous projection, the projector is portable and can be positioned on a table. The resize function (V-stretch) allows users to choose a 2.35:1 wide aspect image (Cinema scope). It also includes a One Touch Play function, which automatically turns on the projector when the user pushes the playback button of the playback equipment. Also, the System Standby function places the playback equipment into standby mode when the projector is turned off.

The XV-Z30000 offers extensive connectivity with two HDMI® inputs. To further enhance the viewing experience, two sets of 3-D glasses are included. The XV-Z30000’s other included accessories are an IR emitter, IR emitter cable, remote control, and two R-6 batteries.

Availability and Pricing
The XV-Z30000 will be available in March 2012 at a Manufacturer’s Suggested List Price (MSLP) of $4,999.99.




SOWK 01-09-2012 11:46 AM

This could be great!!!

But preferred ceiling mount? Does that mean there has to be an offset?

Toknowshita 01-09-2012 01:44 PM

Sharp made a mistake exiting the projector world. The XV17000 should have never happened. It was nothing more than a business unit with a few tweaks. At this point though I don't think any DLP projector should be more than $3k unless the name is Runco on the badge. I might be tempted at $3k but $5k, I am going to look at the JVCs at that point.

DigitalAV 01-09-2012 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Toknowshita View Post

Sharp made a mistake exiting the projector world. The XV17000 should have never happened. It was nothing more than a business unit with a few tweaks. At this point though I don't think any DLP projector should be more than $3k unless the name is Runco on the badge. I might be tempted at $3k but $5k, I am going to look at the JVCs at that point.

Agreed. And this one still looks oddly business-like...kind of a hybrid of their past great projectors and their latest crappy ones. For $5k, I want some serious tweakability (especially re: the iris and video processing), an awesome lens, and superior 3D.

phisch 01-09-2012 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DigitalAV View Post

Agreed. And this one still looks oddly business-like...kind of a hybrid of their past great projectors and their latest crappy ones. For $5k, I want some serious tweakability (especially re: the iris and video processing), an awesome lens, and superior 3D.

This was my thought as well when I looked at the picture. Hopefully it turns out to be a great projector.

DigitalAV 01-11-2012 01:22 PM

More info (thanks to cave.hometheaterhifi.com)
  • 6-Segment, 5x Speed Color Wheel
  • Crestron, AMX, Control 4
  • IP LAN control and 12v Trigger


Ericglo 01-11-2012 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Toknowshita View Post

Sharp made a mistake exiting the projector world. The XV17000 should have never happened. It was nothing more than a business unit with a few tweaks. At this point though I don't think any DLP projector should be more than $3k unless the name is Runco on the badge. I might be tempted at $3k but $5k, I am going to look at the JVCs at that point.

By your opinion, then why should any pj (LCOS, LCD, DLP) be over $3k?

HiFiFun 01-11-2012 02:16 PM

Last years Sharp 17000 had many faults and cut several quality corners. It is now selling for 40% off, yet no one is even talking about it. This is because other projectors have feature like a glass lens, full CMS and frame interpolation in 3D.
Reviewers commented on the poor value, not very bright and the inaccurate color.

What new features does the 30000 have to offer?

ondaedg 02-13-2012 08:22 PM

More info from Sharp's web site. http://files.sharpusa.com/Email/AQUO...eater_news.htm

I'm not excited, but definitely curious.

Edit: thought the motorized lens was new info. Either way, I think we should at least have this on our Radar.

c-not-k 02-14-2012 08:31 AM

I'm a happy XV-Z20000 owner. 30000 is a bigger number than 20000. I hope it's a step up. I, too, think Sharp dropped the ball with the 17000.

The 20000 with a couple of tweaks could have really been something (more lumens, faster color wheel, quieter). The 20K has great colors and a good CMS. For my room it's bright and quiet enough.

ondaedg 02-16-2012 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by c-not-k View Post

I'm a happy XV-Z20000 owner. 30000 is a bigger number than 20000. I hope it's a step up. I, too, think Sharp dropped the ball with the 17000.

The 20000 with a couple of tweaks could have really been something (more lumens, faster color wheel, quieter). The 20K has great colors and a good CMS. For my room it's bright and quiet enough.

I like the fact they added lens memory similar to what the panny's have had. My screen is only 100" so i dont need a light cannon. Curious whch dlp chip theyre using.

pteittinen 02-16-2012 06:20 AM

That is one ugly projector

WynsWrld98 02-16-2012 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by pteittinen View Post

That is one ugly projector

Completely disagee. White projectors are ugly IMO and have no place in a home theater.

pteittinen 02-16-2012 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by WynsWrld98 View Post

Completely disagee. White projectors are ugly IMO and have no place in a home theater.

Wasn't referring to color...

ondaedg 02-16-2012 03:07 PM

Anyone find it strange that one of the biggest lcd producers doesn't offer an lcd projector?

After reading through the rather poorly worded press release, it looks like it not only offers lens memory, but the horizontal and vertical shift is motorized. That's great news. I'm guessing this projector is going to weigh at least 25 lbs and reminding me of the older Sharp and Benq projectors.

5x color wheel and 2.0x zoom is welcome. Hoping for a glass lens and a DC3 or better. 5k MSRP is a bit steep, but the convenience factors may make it worth it if the image quality is as good or better than competing products.

zombie10k 02-16-2012 04:38 PM

I hope they are paying attention to the current landscape of the 3k projectors or they are going to get stuck with another model that isn't going to sell like the 17k.

I am still curious to hear the first hands on review though. maybe it'll be a sleeper.

Toe 02-16-2012 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ondaedg View Post

Anyone find it strange that one of the biggest lcd producers doesn't offer an lcd projector?

After reading through the rather poorly worded press release, it looks like it not only offers lens memory, but the horizontal and vertical shift is motorized. That's great news. I'm guessing this projector is going to weigh at least 25 lbs and reminding me of the older Sharp and Benq projectors.

5x color wheel and 2.0x zoom is welcome. Hoping for a glass lens and a DC3 or better. 5k MSRP is a bit steep, but the convenience factors may make it worth it if the image quality is as good or better than competing products.

So is focus/zoom manual?

c-not-k 02-17-2012 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ondaedg View Post

My screen is only 100" so i dont need a light cannon.

I hear 'ya. Mine is 92" (at 16:9, 117" @ 2.35:1)

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Curious which dlp chip theyre using.

Me too. I prefer the bigger DC3's over the DC4's. But the downside of the bigger chip is the throw distance limitations, which leads me to believe the 30K has a small chip in it.

Maybe Ti has improved the technology.

ondaedg 02-17-2012 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Toe View Post

So is focus/zoom manual?

So I went back and read the press release for a fourth time and I can't say for sure how much is motorized. It may just be the zoom is motorized and the rest is manual. Or it could be more than that. We're just going to have to wait for more info because the little bit of info available from Sharp is ambiguous at best.

ondaedg 02-17-2012 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by c-not-k View Post

I hear 'ya. Mine is 92" (at 16:9, 117" @ 2.35:1)



Me too. I prefer the bigger DC3's over the DC4's. But the downside of the bigger chip is the throw distance limitations, which leads me to believe the 30K has a small chip in it.

Maybe Ti has improved the technology.

I was not aware of that limitation. I know there isn't a huge increase in black levels with the DC3 or DC4, but any improvement is welcome.

HoustonHoyaFan 02-17-2012 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by c-not-k View Post

Me too. I prefer the bigger DC3's over the DC4's. But the downside of the bigger chip is the throw distance limitations, which leads me to believe the 30K has a small chip in it.

The DC4 chips are all bigger and more expensive than most DC3s The DC4's are the .95" platform. The smaller and cheaper platform is the .69" which is likely what this chip uses.

Throw distance is a function of the lens not the chip size.

noah katz 02-17-2012 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by HoustonHoyaFan View Post

Throw distance is a function of the lens not the chip size.

Make throw ratio; other things equal, a imaging a bigger chip results in a... bigger image.

c-not-k 02-17-2012 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by HoustonHoyaFan View Post

The DC4 chips are all bigger and more expensive than most DC3s The DC4's are the .95" platform. The smaller and cheaper platform is the .69" which is likely what this chip uses.

I have a Sharp 20000 which uses a 0.95" DC3.


When I was researching my PJ the smaller DC4 was making it's debut. There are some 0.69 DC3's, but most projectors that I came across were 0.69 DC4's or 0.95 DC3's.

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Throw distance is a function of the lens not the chip size.

Agreed, but anecdotally the smaller chips had shorter throw distances as implemented. Again, based on my research when I was shopping for a projector.

HoustonHoyaFan 02-17-2012 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by c-not-k View Post

I have a Sharp 20000 which uses a 0.95" DC3.


When I was researching my PJ the smaller DC4 was making it's debut. There are some 0.69 DC3's, but most projectors that I came across were 0.69 DC4's or 0.95 DC3's.



Agreed, but anecdotally the smaller chips had shorter throw distances as implemented. Again, based on my research when I was shopping for a projector.

When the 20K was released >4 years ago there were no DC4 or .69" chips, the top end was the .95" DC3. The .95" DC4 came out after and was and is still the top end chip used in the high end lines like SIM2.

A couple years ago TI introduced the cheaper .69" line most of which used the DC3 or DC2 process. That is the chipset that is used in most <$7K 1chip and some < $25K 3chip pjs.

The .95" DC4 is still the top end highest performing 1080p DLP on the market.

c-not-k 02-17-2012 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by HoustonHoyaFan View Post

When the 20K was released >4 years ago there were no DC4 or .69" chips

I didn't get it when it was first released. It was already discontinued, and the DC4 chips were out.

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The .95" DC4 is still the top end highest performing 1080p DLP on the market.

I agree 100%.

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A couple years ago TI introduced the cheaper .69" line most of which used the DC3 or DC2 process. That is the chipset that is used in most <$7K 1chip and some < $25K 3chip pjs.

And that's probably what's in the 30000, given its price point. Still, other improvements may make it a good performer.

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Originally Posted by noah katz View Post

Make throw ratio; other things equal, a imaging a bigger chip results in a... bigger image.

Yeah, that's what I meant to say. Thanks.

Ruined 02-17-2012 06:34 PM

Its either this or the BenQ W7000 for me. I don't think I will need the extra light output of the BenQ, so it will all boil down to how good the PQ on this unit is.

Ruined 02-18-2012 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by DigitalAV View Post

Agreed. And this one still looks oddly business-like...kind of a hybrid of their past great projectors and their latest crappy ones. For $5k, I want some serious tweakability (especially re: the iris and video processing), an awesome lens, and superior 3D.

Well, this chassis *IS* definitely a clone of one of Sharp's business projectors which you can find on their website. It looks identical to it.

That being said, just because it has business chassis does not mean business guts. A case is just a case, it does not have to look fancy on the outside to have awesome internals.

That being said, we'll see when these come out how good they are.

ondaedg 02-18-2012 08:39 PM

I just sent Art an email asking if he was going to be receiving one of these for review. Should he respond, I'll post it here.

c-not-k 02-19-2012 07:41 PM

Awesome. Keep us posted.

Seegs108 02-19-2012 09:39 PM

So is there any word on whether or not this is going to be using a .95" DMD?


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