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I LOVE my JTR Triple 8 LCR setup. Couldn't be happier. Dialog intelligibility is among the best I've ever heard. They're easy to drive and have a BIG soundstage. These speakers are perfect for home theater.

That is good to hear as the Triple 8 is at the top of my list for a speaker upgrade. I am using JBL S-38s right now all around so I am sure the JTR's would be a big upgrade. Just trying to decide if I should do a projector upgrade or speaker upgrade since I can't afford both.

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That is good to hear as the Triple 8 is at the top of my list for a speaker upgrade. I am using JBL S-38s right now all around so I am sure the JTR's would be a big upgrade. Just trying to decide if I should do a projector upgrade or speaker upgrade since I can't afford both.

Obviously I am talking you out of a potential sale for AVS, but I would upgrade your sound. Not saying you have to go with JTR, but a speaker upgrade like JTR, would be a huge improvement. Just as important, what sub/subs do you have and are considering?

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Obviously I am talking you out of a potential sale for AVS, but I would upgrade your sound. Not saying you have to go with JTR, but a speaker upgrade like JTR, would be a huge improvement. Just as important, what sub/subs do you have and are considering?

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Thanks for the response Mike. I am definitely leaning toward the audio upgrade as well since that is a bit more important to me than video in general. I am actually happy with my S-38s as they have been great bang for the buck, but I know something like the Triple 8s would take things to the next level. cool.gif

I might upgrade my subs at some point WAY down the road, but I am actually very happy with what I have now even though I could improve things of course (mainly extension). I have 3 PB13 Ultras and a 12/2 Ultra in a sealed 12x17 room, so I have plenty of output down to where my subs run out of gas around 12-13hz. In order to get that last bit of extension I would have to revamp my entire sub setup with a bunch of sealed 18s, so I am not real motivated to do that right now. I do run dual Buttkickers as well that are mounted to a mini riser that my couch sits on that hit into single digits which gets me that single digit area to some degree at least. Planning on adding 2 more BKs and amp here before the speaker or projector upgrade which should help the low end even more. Having said that, I would love to move to a full sealed setup at some point down the line to get that last bit of extension.

I really admire the DIY route and might get motivated to try it at some point with some subs and/or speakers. I bet your speakers and subs sound excellent and I would love to hear them if I was closer by!

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Well if your interested is selling it, let me know.
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Is anyone on this thread interested in my Vandersteen Quatro's for $5500? Local pick-up or drop off.

I am going to try to get JTR 215RT for LCR.

And I need to sell my Quatro's first.
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Is anyone on this thread interested in my Vandersteen Quatro's for $5500? Local pick-up or drop off.

I am going to try to get JTR 215RT for LCR.

And I need to sell my Quatro's first.

Nice! The 215s were nothing more than a whisper when I ordered my JTRs last November. I just got them behind the proscenium plus the four surrounds yesterday.

LCR 212 HTs
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I'm working on the ceiling today and tomorrow but should get to the GIK room treatments soon.....


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Nice! The 215s were nothing more than a whisper when I ordered my JTRs last November. I just got them behind the proscenium plus the four surrounds yesterday.

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I'm working on the ceiling today and tomorrow but should get to the GIK room treatments soon.....



If the screen wall is being covered with fabric, then I would remove the vertical 2x4 in front of each sub.

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If the screen wall is being covered with fabric, then I would remove the vertical 2x4 in front of each sub.

Good idea. I'll do it.

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I would cover the bottom of the screen wall in a speaker cloth. You'll have to paint the studs black because you see then if left natural. Regular cloth will block or muffle the sound. I purchased mine from parts express and it is very nice.
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I have cloth from GIK acoustics and it will be going up soon. It looks like I'm going to have to pull the subs out from behind the screen as most of the room treatment is up and there is a large bass null right at the MLP. Two feet either side and and it's fine. I'm a victim of room shape/size so I'll be doing a sub crawl (using a smaller sub of course) this morning.

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Let me know how that goes.

I have an unbelievable null with my center channel if I have it on the same plain as my mains. I need it two feet futher back at least.

It's a semi full range speaker and audyseey pro was measuring its crossover at 120htz...

I thought the speaker was broken at first... Lol.


So I had to move it back two feet.
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I have cloth from GIK acoustics and it will be going up soon. It looks like I'm going to have to pull the subs out from behind the screen as most of the room treatment is up and there is a large bass null right at the MLP. Two feet either side and and it's fine. I'm a victim of room shape/size so I'll be doing a sub crawl (using a smaller sub of course) this morning.

That's a shame, because it kills the clean look of having everything behind the screen.

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Does anyone know if the Z axis can also eliminate a null?

In Buzzards situation...

if he could raise the subs two feet into the air in the same X / Y axis, would or could that solve his null problem?

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I displaced the subs to the front side of the screen and moved them to the sides of the room. This did help somewhat, lessening the null by 5db but not enough. I then added a PSA XS30 to the center back wall and that fixed the problem. Even though the JTR S2's are a flat black they are reflective so I'm going to cover the offending surfaces with black velvet.

The Sony 600ES was hung today and I'll be video calibrating over the weekend. The theater seats should be in place Monday so I'll be able to calibrate audio after that.

So far so good. smile.gif

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Ok, I have on order three JTR 215RT's for left center right channels.
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Does anyone know if the Z axis can also eliminate a null?

In Buzzards situation...

if he could raise the subs two feet into the air in the same X / Y axis, would or could that solve his null problem?


Yes, the subs interact with all of the axis.

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Buzzard767, any updates?

Also anyone else have any updates they have done to their systems?
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Buzzard767, any updates?

Also anyone else have any updates they have done to their systems?
I love the theater and I won't even be calibrating the audio for another week or so (just starting hanging pictures, you know, wives.... )

The Sony 600ES calibrates like a demon. The reports are accessible through the home page here, under "HOME" - www.NaplesDisplayCalibration.com
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Was the calibration reports just the projector itself? Or was that with your eeColor Processor as well?
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Was the calibration reports just the projector itself? Or was that with your eeColor Processor as well?
That was the PJ's internal controls. From the looks of the "Advanced" report it appears that 3D LUT processing wouldn't be worth the bother (like VT50, VT60, and ZT60). I'll get my equipment out again, perhaps this evening, and run some checks with LightSpace as it can tell me a lot more than the Chromapure or CalMAN reports.
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Buzzard767, any pics of the theater now?

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1. The room - I'm almost finished. I have 20 yards (44" wide) of black velvet that will surround the screen on the front side walls, ceiling, and floor. I'll probably add bass treatment on the door and floor to ceiling in the corner behind the sub woofer in the rear.

2. Audio - At one point I had 2 JTR S2's in the front which produced a large null in the center of the theater. I was able to alleviate this by adding a PSA XS30 in the rear. I have removed the PSA and put one of the S2's in the right rear corner with good results and this should be the final configuration. I needed the XS30 in my family room anyway so it's all working out. I still haven't taken the time to learn the software for the NanoAVR audio processor. Until I do, the room is doing a fair job and I'm satisfied for now. Truly. I've never had a high end audio system before this and listening to music I've been familiar with for decades is suddenly all new to me as I'm hearing things as never before.

3. Video - The combination of a 120" 16:9 Seymour Center Stage XD AT screen and a Sony 600ES 4K projector is all I could ever ask for. Even small (2 to 4 GB) 720p Blu-Ray MKV rips yield incredible clarity and detail.

To say that I'm more than satisfied is an understatement.

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The little bean bag chairs are for the several young grandchildren and grand nieces and nephews of mine.

Edit to add: There is a high intensity light over the front row center MLP seat which is used for reading while enjoying the music.

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Tony, how long before you get your new speakers?
Already have them, have not had time to turn on and listen yet.

I am firmware updating my projector and re-calibrating it on Friday night and Saturday I will calibrate the audio.

So I "should" be fully operational by Saturday Night again.
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Buzzard767, amazing setup! Looks great! Love the second row riser! Looks like a very very well thought out theater.

I wish I did better planning of my side and rear speakers and the 2nd row riser.
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Buzzard767, amazing setup! Looks great! Love the second row riser! Looks like a very very well thought out theater.

I wish I did better planning of my side and rear speakers and the 2nd row riser.
The risers are integral with the seats and the seats are not connected. They are Barcalounger motorized Rowone City Lights model 8088. In each row, the right seat has left and right arm rests and the center and left seats have left arm rests only. With the rear row seats having their own risers, I have total flexibility in seat placement.

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So you're running subs with the 215's. Do you need them? I ordered my 212's last November to avoid the January price increase but had I known about the upcoming giant speakers I might have waited. Can't cry over coulda woulda shoulda though - I'm happy.

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