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post #1 of 15 Old 01-28-2012, 08:55 PM - Thread Starter
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I'm just now getting back to putting my theater together after taking a huge hit from the 08/09 market crash. Being away from HT for about 3 years seems like a lifetime. I just ordered an Onkyo 3009 and have been waffling back and forth on a pj.
I'm not quite sure where to put this. One was over 3k new, and one is under. I figured more JVC guys would chime in here as well.

I'm trying to keep things reasonable this go around and have limited what I want to spend on the pj to 2000 max. Having been around an AE4000 I really like what I saw, but have also been waffling towards a used JVC. SO here's the deal.

1) Brand new Epson in the box after rebate for 1750.00.

2) Used JVC RS20 with calibration from AVS and 250 hrs on bulb for 1900.00. I'm not sure if this is high or not.

Projector will be in a completely light controlled room with black ceiling and dark walls. Projector will be mounted in sofit at back of room about 19' ft away from a perf screen.

Based on room and pricing, which direction would you lean? I'm also open to other suggestions, but it can't be DLP (wifey/rainbow issues).

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The RS20 is by far the better projector. It will be sharper, have better colors, MUCH better contrast without any worry about a bad dynamic iris, it looks aesthetically nicer, and is built like a tank. Worth every penny over the AE4000. That is a great price on it considering I sold mine about 3 months ago for $2100 and it had more hours on the bulb.

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That is good to know. I was leaning towards the JVC but wasn't sure how the used market was on them. I really like the new 5010, but just can't justify another 600 or so bucks on it.

What did you replace your 20 with?

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Used is risky, I would go with a MFR refurb before a used projector.
Can you check the convergence on it before you buy it and see it in person?


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Used is risky, I would go with a MFR refurb before a used projector.
Can you check the convergence on it before you buy it and see it in person?

Unfortunately no. I live in a small town and have no chance of buying anything local. Seeing as it was calibrated by AVS, I would assume it would have acceptable convergence???

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AVS are outstanding guys, very honest about things like this.
Can you ask them if they saw any issues with it?

Still buying a used projector from an individual has some risk if nothing else from lack of warranty?

Can you still get square trade warranties for a used projector?


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I know they are available on ones you buy through ebay. Not sure outside, I'm guessing you could.

I could check with Jason and see what he has to say about it. He emailed me the calibration results.

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I've had the JVC HD250 which I think is basically a RS20 and the image quality it threw was great with very nice black levels. I've had the AE4000 before and the JVC looked better.
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The hd250 is the equivilent of the rs10, but the rs20 is a good step up in contrast and black level from the rs10. I've owned both (as well as the panny) and jvc's smoke the ae4000, no question.

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Where are the listings for the sold by avs projectors?
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I bought a used, 344 TOTAL hour RS20 for $2500 back in last April. I've been one totally happy guy since then This is my 8th digital pj since '97 and feel that this one is overall the best so far. I thought the sony's I've owned had slightly better/more natural color (like the pearl), but you can't beat the blacks/contrast of the JVC.
There is always a risk buying used, but at $1900 for a good RS20 is a steal IMO.....

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I'd go with the RS20, but see if they can work out something where you get a Mack warranty.

If you get one replacement lamp from them, it covers the cost.

And though I'm sure it's a small %, there are several owners here who have needed light engine replacement$.

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And though I'm sure it's a small %, there are several owners here who have needed light engine replacement$.

That's what makes me nervous. While I've personally had really good luck with my projectors, Murphy seems to be closer than I'd like at times.

You can get a squaretrade, but only through ebay or a local retailer. If I have a major problem it completely offsets the savings on used. RS40's can be found brand new for 2300 right now if you search hard enough.

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I've/had RS1, RS2 and RS20; they've far better in black than Sony HW10/15 and the Sanyo z4000 (probably similar to a Panny ae4000). Dyanmic iris does not work for me, though I did not see the Sony HW20 or HW30 yet. Sony's prices are getting more competitive (or realistic) though, but so is the latest JVC.

All pjs have issues, regardless of brands. It's what you can live with or w/o. You should able to get a RS40 for a bit more than your budget but can be found new w/ warranty. You can always try AVS first.

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Yeah, without getting into pricing (too much ) in this forum, an RS40 can be found for only about 450 more. I'd need to take into the account this one is calibrated though, which would add to the cost of the 40.

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