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Old 02-19-2012, 09:40 AM - Thread Starter
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If Sony can fit 4096x2160 within 0.74 inch diagonal do you expect JVC to do the same for this years CEDIA?
JVC already has a 8k panel which Sony doesn´t have at the moment. At the moment JVCs smallest 4k panel is 1.27 inches in diagonal, however the 8k panel has a smaller pixel pitch.

So what is your guess?
1 JVC will put priority on true 4K
2 JVC will push D-ila to 120Hz for 2x60Hz for 3D

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Old 02-19-2012, 10:09 AM
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They will go to 4K in my opinion, but when is the real question. As you said they all ready have the panels and should have a consumer level product in the next year or two.

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I just have a gut feeling that JVC will stay with the e-shift for the two lower models next year. The lower model with most likely be the RS55 with lower contrast and no cms, will the mid model with be a minor improvement. Also, the flagship model should be a 4K unit with a higher price tag.

But I hope they will all be 4K with twice the lumens
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I think they will have a 4K input next year on their E-Shift machines.

They have an 8K unit that uses E-Shift, agree that a flagship unit will have a 4k chip, be nice if it has laser illumination.

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Or maybe in a couple years depending upon the success and effectiveness of E-shift this year from a marketing position, not to mention availability of 4K sources.

However, if Sony suddenly offers a 4K projector at the under $10K price range next year, then JVC will answer to that. This is more retrospective to the release of the Ruby back in 2005, followed by the RS-1 a year after, which changed the pricing construction of true hi-def.
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Or maybe in a couple years depending upon the success and effectiveness of E-shift this year from a marketing position, not to mention availability of 4K sources.

However, if Sony suddenly offers a 4K projector at the under $10K price range next year, then JVC will answer to that. This is more retrospective to the release of the Ruby back in 2005, followed by the RS-1 a year after, which changed the pricing construction of true hi-def.

I just see how the cheapest 4K projector is Sony's $25K model, I just have a hard time thinking that we will see one for $8k by JVC this year. Since there is no 4K material, I just think it will be smarter for JVC to improve the e-shift and for others to add a similar feature. To be honest, a 4k projector won't fully satisfying me, I need a LED 4K projector with 2000-2500 lumens. I can always hope
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Or maybe in a couple years depending upon the success and effectiveness of E-shift this year from a marketing position, not to mention availability of 4K sources.

However, if Sony suddenly offers a 4K projector at the under $10K price range next year, then JVC will answer to that. This is more retrospective to the release of the Ruby back in 2005, followed by the RS-1 a year after, which changed the pricing construction of true hi-def.

I think you have it backwards. I doubt Sony will reduce its price for the VW1000 very much UNTIL JVC has a 4K unit, say for $15K MSRP. Sony keeps its prices up until a direct competitor forces it to reduce them.
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I'm not sure you're right on the money, Bill I mean wasn't the Ruby the first 1080p that went for under $10K? I agree though that they won't reduce the price for the VW1000 (similar to their flagship Qualia) but I think they will introduce another projector with similar specs - without the expensive lens and optics, of course, at a price range most of us can afford. Sony has always been ahead of this competitionas far as I know, they never altered, or been forced to reduce their pricing, based on the competition. That is more of JVC's pricing tactic...but then again, what do I know
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To be honest, a 4k projector won't fully satisfying me, I need a LED 4K projector with 2000-2500 lumens. I can always hope

You mean after calibration - well that would almost be the holy grail for meor at least more than half the cup filled
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Suppose the Sony was only 1080p. But it had the same lumens optics di etc as the 1000ES. I would think it would be around twice as good as a VPL-vw95ES and support an MSRP of twice the $7K MSRP of the 95ES.
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I would love to see a 4k JVC as I kept my RS40 and skipped upgrading to a RS55 this year to wait for true 4k. I hope there will be a 4k JVC at the end of this year but I bet there will just be improvements to e-shift and it will be the end of 2013 before we see true 4k from JVC but I hope I am wrong as that will probably be my next projector.

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You mean after calibration - well that would almost be the holy grail for meor at least more than half the cup filled

Of course after calibration. But that will be a dream come true
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I'm not sure you're right on the money, Bill I mean wasn't the Ruby the first 1080p that went for under $10K? I agree though that they won't reduce the price for the VW1000 (similar to their flagship Qualia) but I think they will introduce another projector with similar specs - without the expensive lens and optics, of course, at a price range most of us can afford. Sony has always been ahead of this competitionas far as I know, they never altered, or been forced to reduce their pricing, based on the competition. That is more of JVC's pricing tactic...but then again, what do I know

Good point re the Ruby, also about the possibility of a less expensive version of the 1000. After a few yrs of not much new, it's nice to see some new developments.
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