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post #181 of 286 Old 04-03-2013, 01:48 AM
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Scorpiony, if you're taking requests, in addition to your impressions of the projector, I'd really like to know what kind if input lag it has (you knew someone was going to ask). Thanks in advance.

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Finally got the projector. Set it up very quickly. Extremely bright on dynamic mode but too green.
Few adjustment...... and I must say an amazing projector for the money.
Will write more details soon

Great so let us know how good it is!
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Been waiting impatiently for someone to get their hands on one. Can't wait to see a more detailed post with how well it will work for home theater.

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Also, I don't remember seeing it on Panasonic site. Does it have a setting to work with an anamorphic lens?

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Looking forward to more info as well. smile.gif
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Scorpiony, nothing like leaving us hanging.
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gozags, thanks for the hands-on report. It sounds like you're doing a commercial setup, but for home noise is a factor. Did you get a sense of how noisy these are in relation to the HT-oriented models like PT-AE (which are particularly quiet)?

Also, is that under $3k price quote with a volume discount? I hope so, otherwise I'll feel like an ******* for spending $2600 on a PT-AE8000U. wink.gif

Sorry for the delay. $2835.00 was the quote for the 370 and yes, as someone mentioned, it's more for commercial/edu use I think. for us, noise isn't a big deal so I can't say that it stood out. We were sitting right on it as well as opposed being mounted up on the ceiling like it would be in day to day use. We have some HT-geared projectors (for some film classes) and those are really quiet. In retrospect I can't say the 370 was nearly as quiet at those. It was certainly running.

Our price seems contingent on the fact that we are buying lots of units soon. If we bought one and liked it, we would probably be buying more.
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PANASONIC PT-RZ470UK FULL HD LED LASER FOR COMMERCIAL USE:
sorry for the delay, to clarify, I did not purchase this projector for my own use, rather, it was purchased for a client on mine. I work for a high end audio/video retailer in Manhattan for more than 2 decades. we used a 96x54 Stewart screen with ST1.3 in a total dark room.
I did not take any measurements of any kind, just used my trained ISF eyes to evaluate this projector.
This is definitely a commercial projector and lacking videophile settings.
Brightness: very bright out of the box and very GREEN, (that is how we get 3000 lumens) totally unusable for a home theater projector. The best and the closest to 6500K and a decent gray scale, was the "NATURAL" setting mode which is sRGB compliant; The overhaul brightness drops dramatically, yet very bright still (twice as bright as the Runco Q750i LED).
Lens shift: it is very easy to setup lens shift up/down/left/right, took us less than 30 seconds to center it to the screen.
Focus: better DLPs are known for their extremely sharp and detailed picture. We used the internal crosshatch test pattern and managed to get a sharp detail results(seeing pixel structure) but noticed a slight white greenish halo on the crosshatch which I have never seen on our other DLP projectors (that might be due to the green laser phosphor being used in this projector).
NO iris! there is no doubt that this projector could benefit from an iris ability; dark scenes are good but a bit too gray to my taste( I love the iris on the Q750i).
3D: the projector has a "3D sync terminal" which has 2 settings: DLP Link and 3D Sync. I used the Monster Cable 3D active glasses and set it up to "DLP link" mode and got a very "washed out" results...changed to "3D Sync" corrected the problem. I played 10 different 3D movies (after fine tuning the monster glasses) the results were absolutely amazing!!! best I have seen on DLP, comparing to projectors from SIM2 and RUNCO= NO GHOSTING!!, NO CROSS-TALK!! with superb clean background. I used the "STANDARD" mode for 3D viewing. colors were clean and natural through the glasses.
2D: again, I prefer the "NATURAL" mode, bright, dynamic and detailed with a great depth of field. Dark scenes didn't crash into the background, yet, I felt like turning the brightness down, an iris engine, would have been great.
Anamorphic?....NO SORRY. the projector has 2 modes called : H FILL and V FILL.....they don't work if your source is 1920 by 1080. I tried many Blu Ray discs with 1:2.35 no vertical stretch for anamorphic lens....too bad
customers who passed by our store were introduced to the projector and all had nothing to say but: "WOW".
to sum up, great product for the money, I assume majority of movie lover will be very happy with it
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Brightness: very bright out of the box and very GREEN, (that is how we get 3000 lumens) totally unusable for a home theater projector. The best and the closest to 6500K and a decent gray scale, was the "NATURAL" setting mode which is sRGB compliant; The overhaul brightness drops dramatically, yet very bright still (twice as bright as the Runco Q750i LED).

That is a shame. How many calibrated lumens do you think this PJ is going to put out?
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around 1500 lumens
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That's probably too dim for my intended purpose :-(

Thanks for the info all the same!
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Thank you, scorpiony. Now all Panasonic has to do is build a home theater version of this projector with an iris and anamorphic stretch modes. If they can get a 1500 lumen light output after calibration that's great.

How's the noise of the projector?

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on eco mode I measured 28 dB, not bad at all
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customers who passed by our store were introduced to the projector and all had nothing to say but: "WOW".
Do I understand it right: Even though the Panasonic is not a home theater projector, if I would compare it directly to an entry level DLP projector (for instance the popular Benq W1070), the Panasonic would be produce a "WOW"? If yes, what is significantly better?
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I have a dedicated home theatre room in our house which has no windows and an equipment closet.
While running CAT6A through the house I started thinking about the theatre and this projector seemed to fit the bill since I do not want to deal with regular lamps and I do want 3D capability.

Would you say that using the settings specified (Natural for 2D etc) this projector is a good purchase at between 3000 and 3600$? That is the price range I see it for online.
The room is dedicated so I can put up a fixed screen etc to match the projector however needed. The room is 17' deep and 14' 8" wide.
I was thinking of mounting it to the ceiling near the entrance where I have double doors. so say about 2 feet into the room.

What would you guys recommend? Some advice from the pro's would be greatly appreciated smile.gif
Is this projector good for my situation?
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This projector is a great buy even at its $6000 retail price, they more we watch it, the more we like it.
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Given the characteristics of this projector is there a particular type of screen you would recommend for my situation? I'm a novice at this but as I understand it different screens compensate for different things so one should match the projector to the screen.
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I think people on this forum and thread could use a shootout with common home theater projectors like Epson 5020, panasonic ae8000 and so on. We are all delving in New waters here.
It is sounding appetizing I might have to bite!!
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We have compared the Panasonic to our ceiling mounted Epson 6020. Overhaul, most viewers preferred the Panasonic.
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okay. am confused. I thought this was really for commercial use, not ready for HT, lumens only 1/2 of what is advertised, etc. Now it rivals a highly praised projector like the 6020? That sounds like a candidate for HT to me!

I am planning on getting a proj in a few months. Was pretty much dead set on the Sony 50es.. But am tired of bulbs and dimming...

I am surprised that I haven't seen one review of this machine outside of this thread. Something this major should be reviewed by someone in some magazine already - no? I can't find any links....

Hearing about PJs that you can't see locally is so frustrating!!

I guess we will have to wait a while until the reviews come in...
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okay. am confused. I thought this was really for commercial use, not ready for HT, lumens only 1/2 of what is advertised, etc. Now it rivals a highly praised projector like the 6020? That sounds like a candidate for HT to me!

I am planning on getting a proj in a few months. Was pretty much dead set on the Sony 50es.. But am tired of bulbs and dimming...

I am surprised that I haven't seen one review of this machine outside of this thread. Something this major should be reviewed by someone in some magazine already - no? I can't find any links....

Hearing about PJs that you can't see locally is so frustrating!!

I guess we will have to wait a while until the reviews come in...

What do you mean half the lumens advertised? It can acheive the lumens advertised, just not calibrated for D65. Even home theater projectors don't achieve their rated lumen output when calibrated to D65. Marketing states the max light output with settings that are way above D65. If this one can do around 1500 lumens at D65 that's darn good for LED. I've seen reports of top LED projectors costing way more getting less then half that light output once calibrated. I'm sure Panasonic can just use this model and add a few other features and call it their next generation Home Theater projector. I wonder what we'll see at CEDIA come Semptember from Panasonic. Hopefully not another bulb based Home Theater projector.
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I thought I read that (1/2 lumens) in this post somewhere..

And yes, I have already commented on 1500 LED lumens is fantastic to me!

Could this a game changer for HT?

will wait for reviews....
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I thought I read that (1/2 lumens) in this post somewhere..

And yes, I have already commented on 1500 LED lumens is fantastic to me!

Could this a game changer for HT?

will wait for reviews....
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I thought I read that (1/2 lumens) in this post somewhere..And yes, I have already commented on 1500 LED lumens is fantastic to me! Could this a game changer for HT? will wait for reviews....

Yes I wan't an LED or laser projector as well, I love my JVC but am also tired of lam based projectors you have to calibrate them every time!
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What is the difference between the 370 and 470 as far as ht wise? 3D?
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3D and double the rated contrast (10,000:1 vs 20,000:1).

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Scorpiony, thanks for all the helpful information. Based on your trained eye (or anyone else out there that has seen this PJ in person), how do you think it would do calibrated with a 12' wide 2.35:1 (I'll use a Lumagen to take care of the anamorphic scaling) in a near cave-like room? Bright enough? Since the screen you had it on was considerably smaller, do you think the contrast would have been improved with a larger screen? Finally (sorry for the barrage of questions here), what do you attribute to folks preferring the RZ470 over the Epson 6020? Thanks!!
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Barnhead, curious what projector you are using now on your 12ft wide screen? Is it bright enough for you?
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