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post #361 of 384 Old 09-19-2012, 12:11 PM
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Sorry for asking since I am sure this has been covered, but what are the differences between the 48 and 4810?

I believe the 4810 is 3 year warranty and the 48 is two
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My HP is electric. I raise it up to eliminate the bars, then raise it back down if the film is in 1.85 or 1.78. Works perfectly for me


A great way to do it!

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Interesting on the electric screen. Never thought of that. You would only really have to mask the top then if you have this.
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A great way to do it!


Unfortunately the sound image does not move up-down with the screen image, a Trinnov processor can fix that.biggrin.gif
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Do you really get up in the middle of a movie to readjust the masking to suit a change in aspect ratio?eek.gif

Of course not.
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Interesting on the electric screen. Never thought of that. You would only really have to mask the top then if you have this.

I have an electric screen and could do the same, but the image would just be too high for me, so I shift the image to the bottom then mask the top. More trouble but worth it (I keep telling myself tongue.gif)
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I'll leave it at this since it is OT.
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As far as I am concerned the viewed decides what deserves to be bigger.

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37 degrees is very modest, no wonder you have no issues with the image quality of scope at that viewing angle. I am happy to view 2k scope at as much as 50 degrees for good transfers and 16:9 at even larger viewing angles as its typically higher quality then scope, the size of the image is no problem at all. With higher quality source I would go to 57 degrees for scope without hesitation.
I dont view TV of any kind on a projector, quality BD content only.

I'd actually like to go a bit bigger/wider but the room won't allow it, and I kind of built myself into a corner as far as moving the seating forward. It sounds like you don't actually have a CIW system, it sounds like you have a VIA system like Rich does, so I'm not sure why you're arguing "pro" CIW. But my point was not limited to TV, TV is just an extreme example of the idea that scope content is meant to be bigger than 16:9.
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Maybe so, but it is the way it is so I choose to work with what I'm given not fight it. The upcoming 4k format is almost certainly going to be 16:9 along will 4k projectors so it seems Sony and hardware vendors have not leaned anything. wink.gif

I'll be happily running a CIH setup (probably with a lens) when I upgrade to 4K, just like I did when I upgraded to Blu-ray from DVD. Resolution doesn't determine relative presentation IMO.
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CIH is a "problem" because video is CIW, some people may not be concerned about this "problem" but others are and I am one. I cant view scope 33% wider than 16:9 because image quality drops too much for my liking.

It might have tradeoffs you don't like, but it's not a "problem".
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We only sacrifice impact if the screen is too small. With a suitable screen width for scope some people may find the 16:9 image too big but others wont.

It's up to the individual for sure, but my point, my contention is scope is supposed to be larger than 16:9, with the exception of stuff like IMAX which is in a different category.
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We also sacrifice the impact and immersion of quality 16:9 content, thats acceptable to some but not to others and definitely not me.

I think most 16:9 content is not meant to be more immersive than scope.

See what an anamorphoscopic lens can do,
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I have an electric screen and could do the same, but the image would just be too high for me, so I shift the image to the bottom then mask the top. More trouble but worth it (I keep telling myself tongue.gif)


Good point.   I agree that shifting the pic down to line up with the bottom edge of my screen makes for a much more pleasant 2.35 image.  It's also good to have light-absorbing black material below the screen, so that the 'black' (actually dark gray) over-spill (from zooming) is fully absorbed.

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Good point.   I agree that shifting the pic down to line up with the bottom edge of my screen makes for a much more pleasant 2.35 image.  It's also good to have light-absorbing black material below the screen, so that the 'black' (actually dark gray) over-spill (from zooming) is fully absorbed.

I don't do any zooming. The 2.35 is just shifted to the bottom of the 16:9, so there is no overspill at the bottom of the screen, just a double sized gray bar above the image.
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This has me really thinking of getting a electric screen. I was so fixed on a fixed frame
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I have an electric screen and could do the same, but the image would just be too high for me, so I shift the image to the bottom then mask the top. More trouble but worth it (I keep telling myself tongue.gif)

I tried shifting to the bottom but it was too low for me, plus I have my screen about a foot from the ground, so when I raise it up, the image is about 1.5ft from the ceiling.
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I tried shifting to the bottom but it was too low for me, plus I have my screen about a foot from the ground, so when I raise it up, the image is about 1.5ft from the ceiling.

Yeah, the bottom of my screen is about 3ft from the floor. And it's on the smaller side which I sit fairly close too (9-10ft), so going higher is uncomfortable in my set up.
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About '10' biggrin.gif and an extra QC check before shipment AFAIK. There might be a difference in warranty too, but not completely sure.


tongue.gif 10 more just sounds good!
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I believe the 4810 is 3 year warranty and the 48 is two

That is cool. Thanks for the info!

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There not much talk about the Mitsubishi HC8000D yet. Would love to hear more about it as it seems a real 3D killer!

Hi,

there are here a review from Projector Central :

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1432352/mitsubishi-hc8000
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This has me really thinking of getting a electric screen. I was so fixed on a fixed frame

I've used electric screens since I got into home theater. They have some advantages over fixed screens ( except for cost ). A " free " electric screen salvaged off a construction site got me started - that " free " screen has cost me tens of thousands of dollars by now ( every one well spent !! ).

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I believe electric HP's are quite a bit cheaper than fixed.

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Yes, there are exceptions ! Except when I'm buying one ........... wink.gif

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Don't you have 2?


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2 screens? Yes - a 2.35:1 and a 16:9 screen.

I think they both cost me more than a fix screen would have..........eek.gif

( not that I'm complaining ) wink.gif

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Anybody have an idea when the Mitsubishi HC7900DW will be coming out? IM very interested in that projector from the specs that has been posted on the net..
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Anybody have an idea when the Mitsubishi HC7900DW will be coming out? IM very interested in that projector from the specs that has been posted on the net..

Might want to shell out the extra $500 for the 8000.
Projector Central review on the HC8000
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2 screens? Yes - a 2.35:1 and a 16:9 screen.
I think they both cost me more than a fix screen would have..........eek.gif
( not that I'm complaining ) wink.gif

Maybe you should give me one since I still can't make a decision on a screen smile.gif
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