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Hi,

information from that French Website :

http://www.hdlandblog.com/2012/07/sony-vpl-hw40es-presente-lifa-2012.html

http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fr&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=fr&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hdlandblog.com%2F2012%2F07%2Fsony-vpl-hw40es-presente-lifa-2012.html
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I think that the origine of this information can be found on www.cinetson.org but M. Cherel seems to forget to put the link to the origin of this news tongue.gif
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And you better be careful with the price as it isn't official for the moment.
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Finally, I hope the source is solid.
Waiting for more details, and I hope it is worth to wait.
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The article says that the Sony hw40 will be the only new Sony projector to be unveiled at IFA, which most likely means that there will be no successor to the vw95es this cycle. JVC will take advantage of that I believe. We'll see soon.
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I was told from an insider there would only be a 30 replacement and the 95 an 1000 will remain.

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Interested to see what improvements the 40 will have over the 30. Given that their higher end models are now getting updated tells me 40's changes will be modest over the 30. It'll be good for my marriage since it'll prevent me from buying a new projector. biggrin.gif
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So it looks like manual lens still and I assume the same throw range as the 30?

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Hey Joe I have the same info, only one new model this year.

I will be at Berlin for the IFA show like every year and I will report for AVS live from Germany. smile.gif
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I hope they will boost the lamp life!

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I was told from an insider there would only be a 30 replacement and the 95 an 1000 will remain.

Is there really a need to upgrade the 95 and 1000? Were there anything that needed to be improved with the 95?
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Is there really a need to upgrade the 95 and 1000? Were there anything that needed to be improved with the 95?

Yes.

Completely artifact-free FI
Better blacklevel.

These I regard as the only areas where there is room for improvement.
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Hey Joe I have the same info, only one new model this year.
I will be at Berlin for the IFA show like every year and I will report for AVS live from Germany. smile.gif

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As the last of the triumvirate of recipients of Sony inside info, deliberately leaked by Sony knowing that we will blab it, we really know nothing more at this point other than that the replacement for the HW30AES will have an internal IR 3D emitter. I assume that there will still be a a way to connect an external emitter offered as an accessory for those who want or need to provide a direct beam to their glasses rather than bouncing off a screen. I think you can take that to the bank.
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My guess is that the dynamic on off increase to 100,000 is based on a more aggressive DI setting option. but I don't know. I doubt one would notice much of change but if set up at close throw and running a high gamma, the increase could help prevent black crush.
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sony vw1000es has been so well received lately. they hit many the sweet spots recently, giving the other brands a run. i think the hw50/40 will be another winner...if....

they have improved features against hw30es (wish list):

1. increased brightness ? 1500lm?
2. better transmitter...hopefully built-in or more powerful transmitter...
3. improved contrast 90k-120k:1 ??
4. maybe it will be a bonus if they add super scaling technology in it...
5. lens positioning??

....2 cents...
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Its not in english when I click on the link. Maybe someone could do a computer translation and post it. Thanks
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Hi,

Sorry, titles are in French, but the text is in English :


"The VPL-HW50ES/B is Sony’s new 3D home cinema projector available in black.Itincludes the very latest technology and delivers a premium home theatre experience.Packed with new innovative features that draw on Sony’s latest lamp technology - the VPL-HW50ES utilises Sony’s clever ‘Reality Creation’ to dramatically enhance high definition 1080P content to deliver sharp, crisp Full HD images.

BRIGHTER, CLEARER IMAGES

When you're viewing your favourite film or even trialing the latest release - you want to know that you are watching the action the way it was meant to be seen.

Conventional home cinema projectors typically enhance the green colour to secure the image brightness however the VPL-HW50ES/B combines with a new Bright Cinema and Bright TV Mode to achieve 30 per cent more brightness than the previous model, without losing colour reproduction.

Additional features such as improved light efficiency, 1,700lmbrightness and Sony’s 3D Crosstalk reduction system, with SXRD panels enhance the 3D image even further making for a great viewing experience.

HUGE RANGE OF USER ENHANCEMENTS

The VPL-HW50ES/B also features a number of user-friendly functionality upgrades including a built in 3D synchronous transmitter reducing set-up time and removing the need for extra cabling.

With this projector, you can experience award-winning explosive 3D and 2D imagery seamlessly with separate 2D and 3D parameters under a variety of application modes – Dynamic, Standard, Game, Cinema and Photo.

PRIMESUPPORT

3 year projector and 1 year lamp warranty/1000 hour PrimeSupport cover – from the product purchase date.
Specialist telephone support – an exclusive multi-lingual telephone helpline staffed by technical experts with detailed understanding of projector products.
Collect-and-deliver repair service – if your problem cannot be resolved via the helpline, we’ll activate our no-hassle collect-and-deliver repair service. All financial costs are covered – parts, labour and logistics to and from our state-of-the-art European repair centres.
PrimeSupport will be provided through the Sony accredited partner.

With VPL home projectors, PrimeSupport also includes:
Free loan unit – you’ll receive a free loan unit of similar specification if repairs are likely to exceed 10 working days, minimising your disruption."



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Display system High Frame Rate SXRD panel
Light Output 1700 lm
Contrast ratio 100,000:1 (Dynamic Contrast)
Display elements - Effective display size 0.61” x 3
Display elements - Effective pixels Full HD(1920x1080)x3 6,220,800 pixels
Projection lens - Zoom / Focus Manual (Approx. 1.6 x) / Manual
Projection lens - Lens shift Manual, V:+/-71% / H:+/-25%
Light source Ultra High-pressure lamp 200W type
Screen size 40” to 300'‘ (10.16 m to 76.24 m)
3D YES
Reality Creation YES
Contrast Enhancer YES
MotionFlow YES
Advanced Iris Ver 3
RCP Ver 2
Panel Alignment Yes (Shift / Zone)
Picture modes 9 modes
Gamma modes 11 modes
Input/Output
HDMI (2 inputs) Digital RGB/Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr
Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr Component: phono type
INPUT A Mini D-sub 15-pin (RGB)
Remote RS-232C, D-sub 9-pin (female)
IR IN Mini Jack
3D Sync Built-in Transmitter or via RJ-45 ( TMR-PJ2 )
Acoustic noise* 21dB
Power requirement AC 100 V to 240 V, 3.0 A to 1.3 A,50/60 Hz
Power consumption Max. 300 W
Body Color Black/White
Standard outside dimensions W 407.4 x H 179.2 x D 463.9 mm
Weight Approx. 9.6 kg
Supplied Accessories Remote Control RM-PJ23
Size AA (R6) manganese batteries (2)
AC Power Cord for projector (1)
3D glasses (2)
Pouch for the 3D glasses (2)
Warranty Card (1) (@local: ex.U,J,CH)
Operating Instructions (1)





Reality Creation – Super Resolution Function

Developed for the Sony 4K home cinema projector (VPL-VW1000ES) this function has now been adapted for the new VPL-HW50ES/B projector. It reproduces the colour and texture of the original 1080p signal by restoring missing information lost during packaging of the original contents to disc. As a result, you can enjoy sharp and crisp full HD pictures in the comfort of your own home.
High Brightness of 1,700 lumens with faithful colour reproduction

By improving the light efficiency of the lamp and with an optimised optical block, the brightness is increased by approximately 30%* giving much brighter and clearer images in well-lit living rooms. The VPL-HW50ES/Balso provides rich colour reproduction due to the improvedoptical engine design and the same colour management method as the VPL-VW1000ES"
* Compared to Sony conventional Home Cinema Projectors
Bright Cinema and Bright TV Mode for living room theatre

The VPL-HW50ES/B boasts the new Bright Cinema and Bright TV Mode. With optical block and signal processing improvements bringing high brightness without a loss in colour reproduction and contrast, you can enjoy bright, crisp images even when viewing in a well-lit room.
Contrast Enhancer Function

This function automatically adjusts the contrast for optimum viewing. It compensates for dark and bright parts of an image by analysing the signal component of each scene in real time to ensure that the optical contrast is obtained.
100,000:1 Dynamic Contrast

Thanks to contrast enhancer technology and the Advanced Iris3 technology, the projector has a dynamic contrast ratio of more than 100,000:1. It maximises black and white levels without diminishing peak brightness to ensure no detail is missed in dark scenes.
Motionflow

Motionflow technology allows the VPL-HW50ES/B to display twice as many images per second. This algorithm, unique to Sony, creates completely new images based on the incoming signal, and inserts them between the original frames to reproduce smoother, sharper motion.
SXRD Panel Technology

SXRD panels minimise the gaps between pixels to 0.2μm for sharper, dot-free images, making it possible to reproduce up to 240 frames per second. The opening and closing of the shutters on the 3D glasses are synchronised to ensure that each eye receives the correct image, thus reducing crosstalk to a minimum. The result is stunningly detailed, high-definition 3D images that you believe you can reach out and touch.
Advanced Iris3 Control

This is an automatic Iris control feature that enhances the contrast in accordance with the scene. It maximises black and white levels without diminishing peak brightness.
Dynamic Lamp Control Technology for 3D

When each of the shutters on your 3D glasses opens, Dynamic Lamp Control Technology automatically boosts the brightness (approximately 3x brighter) in the image to that eye, maximising the picture’s impact and the lamp’s efficiency. This means that you will not lose any brightness and attain the optimal visual experience from the comfort of your own home.
Built-in 3D Sync Transmitter

You can synchronise the opening and closing of the lens shutter with the 3D glasses lens thanks to the 3D synchronous transmitter built into the front of the projector, reducing set-up time and the need for extra cabling.
Separate 2D and 3D Modes

The VPL-HW50ES/B allows you to pre-select separate parameters for 2D and 3D content under a variety of application modes – Dynamic, Standard, Game, Cinema and Photo – as well as automatically recognising 2D or 3D input.
Extremely Low Fan Noise (21dB)

The VPL-HW50ES/B runs very quietly with an advanced air discharge system. Through a highly efficient cooling system, fan noise is suppressed to a mere 21dB. With whisper-quiet fan noise, you can concentrate on a movie or game in a quiet environment without distraction.
Gamma Adjustment Function

With 11 modes to select, it is possible to fine tune image brightness according to the room conditions or the screen content.
Improved Adjustable Lens Shift

The VPL-HW50ES/B has an adjustable ‘Lens Shift’ function. Picture position (both horizontal and vertical) can be easily adjusted with the manual adjustable ‘Lens shift’ function. This expands the projector’s placement and installation options without distorting image quality.
Improved Panel Alignment Function

The VPL-HW50ES/B is configured with a function that compensates for gaps in character or colour management. It is possible to select R(Red) or B(Blue) to make adjustments based on G(Green), and to adjust the horizontal and vertical direction by shifting the full image or selecting zones of each colour.
RCP (Real Color Processing) Version 2

The VPL-HW50ES/B offers an “RCP (Real Color Processing)” function to adjust the colour and hue of each target colour of the projected picture independently. Additionally, version 2 adds the ability to adjust the brightness at the same time. With this capability, you can tweak the images to perfection.

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Light Output 1700 lm
Sony's specifications claimed 3X brightness last year but it was really 30%.
The unspecified native contrast ratio is by far the most meaningful specification.

Cine4Home measures the 30es:
Sony VPL-HW30 measurement table
"D65 calibrated" Maximum zoom (minimal zoom)
IRIS medium 460 (350) 700 (550) 4000: 1 (4500: 1)
http://www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.aspx?from=de&to=en&a=http://cine4home.de/tests/projektoren/Sony_HW30/Test_Sony_HW30.htm

Kraine's measurements:
The native contrast is him 7875:1 on: off with the low lamp and 4500:1 with the lamp in high mode.
http://www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.aspx?from=fr&to=en&a=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.audiovideohd.fr%2Ftests%2F295-Sony-VPL-HW30ES-5.html

Its useful to bookmark and then compare the 30ES reviews to the coming 50ES to determine the actual improvements.
Perhaps Sony's optical block improvements will allow for finer pixel resolution
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From AV Magazine Italy:
"The announcement of the new full HD projector Sony VPL-HW50ES threw into turmoil that many fans have been waiting for a new Sony 4K projector more accessible. Another part of fans hoped at least in the introduction of a model "lampless", ie with light engine-based laser and / or phosphor and / or LED. The presentation of the new HW50 instead leaves a bad taste in your mouth, they seem to read the new specifications that improvements over the previous model (HW30) are only marginal. In addition, the decision to leave a reflector type manual seems anachronistic.

The reality is a bit 'different and a long interview with Tak Nakane, product manager for Sony projectors, has shed light on some aspects that are worth to be made ​​public. First of all, the development of new HW50 has been directly managed by the father of the model 4K, that 'Ing Matsuda has in fact revolutionized the field of projection Hi-End, putting in line all competitors. Matsuda has completely redesigned optics which now allows a detailed and luminous efficiency significantly higher. The luminous flux now rises to 1,700 lumens while in calibration conditions (6500 ° Kelvin) light output remains at 1195 lumens (source Sony).

The changing lenses, even if a manual was an obvious choice to make the most of the new DSP X-Reality Pro, which promises to give a detail never seen before in full HD images. The processor is in fact derived directly from the one entered in the VPL-VW1000ES is similar to what is included in the top of the range Sony LCD TV (HX855, HX955) and has been optimized for video projection. Unfortunately, the new HW50 here at IFA is turned off. The first public appearance will be at CEDIA, the United States and the second just in Italy, in Milan, in the next Top Audio Video Show from September 13, to be practical in the European premiere.

The new HW50, calibrated to the best of our ability, directly challenge the model VW1000, in a shoot-out on the screen by 3 meters wide, with native 4K content. We reveal all the details of this super (duper) comparison in the coming days. The price of the new HW50 should be between 3,300 and 3,500 euros, with integrated IR emitter and a pair of glasses in the box. The previous model HW30 should be repositioned short about 2.500-2-700 Euro."
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Unlike many members, I do not give Sony a free pass to cut corners. Products should be evaluated on their own merits. To their credit Tom Huffman and Kris Deering also noted the substandard optics. The less consumers discriminate, the harder it is to raise the quality of the next generation. In any event its good to see both Sony and Panasonic begin to implement basic quality optical principles like lens coatings as they already do for their excellent camera lines. These well known engineering principles will allow an increase of native contrast and reveal the 2K SXRD pixel elements. If the errors are low enough (or the resolving power high-enough) then Sony can consider going to 4K next year.

Its taken over a year to restore pixel fidelity to the front projector market (the DLP camp released products without 1:1 pixel mapping). Whew!
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I have posted this in another thread. There is a significant error in the write up. It states the 50 has the same color management system as that in the 1000ES. Of course we all know the 1000ES does not have a CMS. I think they mean the 50 has the same CMS as the 95. (as well as in the predecessor 30.
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So I guess is confirmed there still no memory lens?

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Is the HW50 setup for demo viewing at CEDIA? I am anxiously waiting for viewers impressions of this new Sony, especially for 2D content.
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Is the HW50 setup for demo viewing at CEDIA? I am anxiously waiting for viewers impressions of this new Sony, especially for 2D content.

Good question... Did someone saw the new Sony on the show floor ?
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No MSRP yet?
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No MSRP yet?

$4000.00

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Good question... Did someone saw the new Sony on the show floor ?

It was set up outside the demo room for the 4K 1000ES.

 

Small screen and bright lights form the hall, so it made it difficult to give a fair evaluation IMHO.  However, the picture looked very soft to me.

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