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I have been watching the live feed on the avforum site.Also news of the new HW50ES which includes reality creation and something called "contrast enhancer technology and Optimised Advanced Iris 3 algorithm" has the Sony been "Darbeeised"
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Here the first pics of the HW50ES on the SONY show room at Berlin ;




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SONY, PANASONIC, ACER BOOTH (still in construction) + SONY Z2 3D headset, SONY 4K flatscreen, Panasonic 8K 145inces plasma screen etc....









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I have been watching the live feed on the avforum site.Also news of the new HW50ES which includes reality creation and something called "contrast enhancer technology and Optimised Advanced Iris 3 algorithm" has the Sony been "Darbeeised"

No. They are simply referring to a new implementation of the dynamic iris being used. They must have tweaked the algorithms to make it smoother and less noticeable.

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Here the first pics of the HW50ES on the SONY show room at Berlin]

Please check if it has the fake 4K.

http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/29/sony-vpl-hw50es-4k-3d-projector/
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Here the first pics of the HW50ES on the SONY show room at Berlin ;




Does the new 50 still have the anoying side inputs instead of at the rear???
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In the meanwhile they have correct their original statement. HW50ES didn't have 4K or pseudo 4K.
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IFA starts in 1 day, on Friday the 31st! What's up with JVC? Have they revealed their new line? Anyone out of NDA now and can say?
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IFA starts in 1 day, on Friday the 31st! What's up with JVC? Have they revealed their new line? Anyone out of NDA now and can say?

We'll know in few hours more.

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The JVC new models are already known (X35, X55, X75 and X95), I'm still waiting for the 31/08 to be able to speak about the 7 new EPSON projectors.
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With the very few projectors available this year at Berlin, I put here some generals pictures from the Panasonic BOOTH with the 8K 145" plasma screen and also the 103" 3D without glasses also plasma screen :











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And now the SONY Booth, the star of the day is the 4K flat screen, the new SONY HW50ES is only here as a sample :











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At least today I'm able to speak about new HC projectors, here are the 3 new DLP models from ACER :

H7532BD :

http://www.cinetson.org/phpBB3/projecteurs-f2/acer-h7532bd-dlp-full-nvidia-play-ifa-2012-t36178.html#p625139

H6510BD :

http://www.cinetson.org/phpBB3/projecteurs-f2/acer-h6510bd-dlp-full-budget-ifa-2012-t36179.html


H5370BD :

http://www.cinetson.org/phpBB3/projecteurs-f2/acer-h5370bd-dlp-720p-ready-petit-prix-ifa-2012-t36180.html


The lamp is under warranty for one year and announced with a really long life time, pics are following with also the ACER Booth and the K750 pictures
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wow!! keep up the great work Kraine..Im following this thread very very closely! do any of these new acers have dual link dvi? and word on the epson pj"s as soon as possible please!!! thanks and great job!
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Kraine, I really appreciate your coverage of the Berlin show. But, do you have anymore info on the JVC projectors? Can you post any stats yet? Photos are very much appreciated too. Thanks again!

WANTED: (1) M&K MP-150  IN-WALL speaker. (Preferably in Black color)

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The new JVC models will be presented at CEDIA and not at IFA (even for the journalist), the new EPSON models will be presented tomorrow at 10AM I will cover it wink.gif

This is not projection but here are the pics of the LG Booth with the 4K flat 3D passive screen and the new oled screen (very impressive)







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Ah, got it! Well, thanks for the updates, Kraine. We all really appreciate it!

WANTED: (1) M&K MP-150  IN-WALL speaker. (Preferably in Black color)

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Kraine. Thanks.

SO LET'S REMEMBER GUYS. NO JVC UNTIL CEDIA WHICH STARTS 1 WEEK FROM TODAY. So quit asking please.

Now. Are there any details on the new Sony Z2 3D headset? Thanks
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Kraine. Thanks.
SO LET'S REMEMBER GUYS. NO JVC UNTIL CEDIA WHICH STARTS 1 WEEK FROM TODAY. So quit asking please.
Now. Are there any details on the new Sony Z2 3D headset? Thanks

Kind strange that you of all people should ask since there is already a thread on it here at AVS smile.gif

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1426822/sony-hmz-t2-personal-3d-viewer-hmd-dedicated-thread
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What about Optoma, especially the follow-on to the HD33.
For DLP please ask the sales rep's if they use DC2 or DC3.

The pumping-up of dynamic contrast hides the fact that there is meager innovation in projectors this year.
To meet the LED light powered challenge, projector manufactures are simply pumping-up the claimed UHP bulb life!

Panasonic is correcting the insidious temperature issues, and Mitsubishi is the exception with two interesting models.

At least if you want 4K, then LCD panels are taking the spotlight.
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What about Optoma, especially the follow-on to the HD33 ?
+1 to the above

Also, does Mitsubishi have a showing at IFA or are they also waiting for CEDIA ?
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Everyone can see the lost focus at Texas Instruments with regards to DLP technology:
http://www.dlp.com/technology/ifa2012/ifa2012.aspx

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Everyone can see the lost focus at Texas Instruments with regards to DLP technology:
http://www.dlp.com/technology/ifa2012/ifa2012.aspx
PICO

Now this is real madness!

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Will be interesting to see where TI goes with 4K... will they bring it to the consumer space or leave it in the theaters? Do they even have the capability to meet black-level expectations of the early adopter 4K crowd? I'll wait out the early adopter 4K, as I remember purchasing a 1080i CRT HDTV around Y2K and waiting a few years for regular content... not interested in gaming, so 1080p will work just fine for me until this all shakes out.

"A wide screen just makes a bad film twice as bad. "
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I wonder what he'd think about 3D IMAX?
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TOSHIBA stricke back in the front projection area, with 3 new DLP hybrid models






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Nothing new for Optoma this year at IFA sorry frown.gif
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Any new about a possible passive 3D projector?
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Any word on BenQ?

"A wide screen just makes a bad film twice as bad. "
-Samuel Goldwyn

I wonder what he'd think about 3D IMAX?
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The only Brand that sell passive projector is LG and they dont' have any newprojector at IFA 2012, BenQ isn't at Berlin.
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