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Thanks to Gradius all the information are here about this new projector from Panasonic :

http://www.visualapex.com/Panasonic/projector-specifications.asp?for-the=PT-AE8000U

Apparently it will be out just after IFA 2012.
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They used the word 'NEW' quite a bit in their description.

Kraine, we'll be expecting the infamous L/R screenshot's through the glasses. cool.gif
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Contrast spec is getting completely out-of-hand. 300,000:1? I call shenanigans on that one.
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Contrast spec is getting completely out-of-hand. 300,000:1? I call shenanigans on that one.

I agree. Even if they market it with 100,000,000:1 it still won't have better blacks than the JVCs lol. biggrin.gif
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Let's what they will change/improve. New competition is always nice. smile.gif

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seems that the norm now is slight incremental improvements every year, instead of bigger steps every 2 or 3rd year now....
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Agreed, all the major technical advances seem to be at the high-end and priced accordingly. I am sure we'll see some new stuff at CEDIA - 4K DLP, better 3D and possibly the Red Laser model. Just don't expect any of it to be cheap

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Was hoping for led/laser light based, oh well. Next. smile.gif
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Sees like some of the same regurgitated specs that they had for the 7000

"New 200W Red-Rich Lamp: increases red luminance and output to produce brighter images with excellent colors"

"High-precision optical system: features original aspherical lenses, new 480Hz compatible LCD panels with a larger aperture ratio, and fully re-engineered Pure Contrast Plates, Pure Color Filter Pro, Dynamic Iris Pro and HD-optimized Smooth Screen."

Not sure how they are new when they are the same as the 7000 rolleyes.gif
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It's written "Spécifications subject to change" wink.gif
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Sees like some of the same regurgitated specs that they had for the 7000
"New 200W Red-Rich Lamp: increases red luminance and output to produce brighter images with excellent colors"
"High-precision optical system: features original aspherical lenses, new 480Hz compatible LCD panels with a larger aperture ratio, and fully re-engineered Pure Contrast Plates, Pure Color Filter Pro, Dynamic Iris Pro and HD-optimized Smooth Screen."
Not sure how they are new when they are the same as the 7000 rolleyes.gif

Perhaps VA only has info that the AE8000 is coming out to replace the AE7000 and have simply used the specs. from the AE7000 as a placehold until they get the offical info for the AE8000.

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This came kinda fast... the 7000 was delayed a year. Maybe laser.....
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Was hoping for led/laser light based, oh well. Next.

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Pure laser, maybe, but not hybrid.

Business versions are already numerous, and I believe it's Optoma that has announced a HT version, I forget if it's this year or next

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When I go to the VisualApex link in the OP I see a description of PT-AE7000U, not the PT-AE8000U. Nothing looks new or different than the PT-AE7000U information that has been out more than a year, including the title at the top of the page.

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When I go to the VisualApex link in the OP I see a description of PT-AE7000U, not the PT-AE8000U. Nothing looks new or different than the PT-AE7000U information that has been out more than a year, including the title at the top of the page.

Yep same for me.

You have a bad link Kraine.
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He had the right link to AE8000 before but the information got changed to AE7000 by VA.
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More détails here :

http://www.hot.com.au/product/Panasonic-PT-AE8000-E-HD-3D-1080p-LCD-high-lumens-super-contrast

400 000:1 contrast ratio instead of 300 000:1 for the prévious model and 200 lumens more.
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I really hope more is done in the realm of NATIVE contrast. You can program an iris all day, but nothing compares to having a solid foundation (much like the epson 6500ub and models beyond).
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Lastest update about the european specifications (must be the same for the US model)

500 000:1 on:off
2400 lumens

rolleyes.gif (when will a Brand give us the real numbers at D65 ?)
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Lastest update about the european specifications (must be the same for the US model)
500 000:1 on:off
2400 lumens
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No doubt. Also, why not just spec it at 1,000,000:1 rolleyes.gif

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You mean a Brand like Barco, Kaine, LOL.
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Do we know if the new Panny 8000 would support the use of an anamorphic lens? will it include vertical stretch processing, and a trigger ?
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No doubt. Also, why not just spec it at 1,000,000:1 rolleyes.gif

I hear we will soon have an Eleventy-Billion:1 dynamic CR from either Samsung, Epson, or Panny in the next year or two :P

Kidding aside, the native CR and great blacks on the JVC can only carry them so far, they need to come out with a 3D home run this year, otherwise I am jumping ship to either Sony or Panny. Sorry JVC, you were ahead 2 years ago with 3D, now you are waaaay behind.

With that being said, I am still entertaining the idea of moving to a Panny or Sony this year if their 2D is near as good as the JVC. But I won't be a beta tester for the 3rd year in a row. I am sitting still in my theater with my RS45 until Dec/Jan when real reports and reviews are out.
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I hear we will soon have an Eleventy-Billion:1 dynamic CR from either Samsung, Epson, or Panny in the next year or two :P
Kidding aside, the native CR and great blacks on the JVC can only carry them so far, they need to come out with a 3D home run this year, otherwise I am jumping ship to either Sony or Panny. Sorry JVC, you were ahead 2 years ago with 3D, now you are waaaay behind.
With that being said, I am still entertaining the idea of moving to a Panny or Sony this year if their 2D is near as good as the JVC. But I won't be a beta tester for the 3rd year in a row. I am sitting still in my theater with my RS45 until Dec/Jan when real reports and reviews are out.

I hear ya Sam and I am in a similar boat. Not sure what I am going to do yet and just waiting for the Cedia announcements before making some sort of decision. I would also love reduced lag in my next projector. I am either going to add a BenQ 7000 for 3d and keep the 45 for its awesome 2d (I know a second projector is not an option for you), or if something promising comes out of Cedia, sell the 45.

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Panasonic PT-AT8000U (and the european version the 6000E) are online, here :

http://projektory.pl/projektory/Panasonic_PT-AE6000.html

Technologie LCD
Luminosité 2200 ANSI lumens
Résolution 1080p (1920x1080)
Contraste 400.000:1
Volume 22 dB
Poids environ 8.7 kg
Format de l'image 16:09
Homogénéité 85%
Lentille 22,4 à 44,8 mm
Aspect Ratio 1.35:1-2.70:1: 1
Distance de l'écran 1,16 à 18,08 m
Clé de voûte + / - 30 °
Lampe 200 W UHM
Vie de la lampe 4000/5000 (éco) h
Dimensions 470 × 151 × 364 mm
Puissance 100 - 240 V
Périphérique d'alimentation 285 W
Entrées 3 x HDMI, 1 x S-Vidéo, 1 x VGA (D-sub), 1 x Composante, 1 x Vidéo Composite, 1 x 12V trigger, 1 x RS-232;
Sorties 1 x 12V trigger
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Panasonic PT-AT8000U (and the european version the 6000E) are online, here :
http://projektory.pl/projektory/Panasonic_PT-AE6000.html
Technologie LCD
Luminosité 2200 ANSI lumens
Résolution 1080p (1920x1080)
Contraste 400.000:1
Volume 22 dB
Poids environ 8.7 kg
Format de l'image 16:09
Homogénéité 85%
Lentille 22,4 à 44,8 mm
Aspect Ratio 1.35:1-2.70:1: 1
Distance de l'écran 1,16 à 18,08 m
Clé de voûte + / - 30 °
Lampe 200 W UHM
Vie de la lampe 4000/5000 (éco) h
Dimensions 470 × 151 × 364 mm
Puissance 100 - 240 V
Périphérique d'alimentation 285 W
Entrées 3 x HDMI, 1 x S-Vidéo, 1 x VGA (D-sub), 1 x Composante, 1 x Vidéo Composite, 1 x 12V trigger, 1 x RS-232;
Sorties 1 x 12V trigger


So, is the higher contrast rating just from the increased brightness or is there any hint towards that black levels have improved - or something else than brigtness? :-(
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