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I have owned the Sony VW50 and VW60 projectors for many years now, ever since the VW50 came out. I have been through many bulbs in those projectors and have always bough official Sony bulbs. These bulbs have always been available in the mid $200 range. I decided to try a non-Sony bulb this time and here is what I found out.

Bulb Basics:

There are two parts to the lamp. The housing or "cage" and the bulb itself. There are third party manufacturers of both the cages and the bulbs, and you can mix and match them. Current Sony lamps use a Philips bulb. I never bothered to look at the bulb markings on my old bulbs so I don't know if Sony has used different bulbs in the past, but the last two Sony lamps I bought have Philips bulbs with identical markings on them:

Printed in ink on the bulb (symbol next to K9 is a left bracket):
note - number: 000014963 IS NOT a serial number - two official Sony bulbs have identical markings below:

TOP 268 [K9
UHP 200W 1.0
PHILIPS
MADE IN CHINA
000014963

In doing some research on replacement bulbs, the consensus is as follows (NOTE: this is not my opinion necessarily, but what other people have said in feedback about various bulbs)

Philips: the best
Sylvania/Osram: very good
Other third party bulb manufactures: junk - run away

So I decided to order a third-party housing with a Philips lamp. Just got the lamp today - here are the markings on the lamp:

Marking on Replacement bulb from BulbAmerica (Philips version)
Printed in ink on the bulb - Note: symbol between TOP and UHP might be a letter C or a left bracket

TOP [ UHP
PHILIPS
MADE IN CHINA
AM0003981

sticker on lamp:
356/90 200W 1.0
514DN90A 2D
AM200-150WP22

Some pictures comparing a Sony lamp with the third-party one (Sony lamp is always on the left)

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Observations:

The third-party cage is slightly different from the Sony cage - it has a more course wire mesh and a different material is used in the rectangular seal portion. Otherwise the cages are almost identical.

I only have a few hours on the new bulb, but so far it is behaving exactly like a new Sony bulb. Only time will tell if this bulb is any good or not - we shall see.

If you want the cheapest "good" bulb replacement, here is what you can try - get a Philips UHP 200W 1.0 P22 bulb. P22 is the bulb shape and size, 200W is max wattage, and the 1.0 reefers to the gap size. Swap out your bulb from it's housing and put the new bulb in. Philips bare bulb part number: Philips UHP 9281 356 05390

I would be very interested to know exactly what the difference between the "Sony" Philips bulb and my replacement bulb is as they are different part numbers, but I can't find any info on exact specs for Philips UHP bulbs by part number - seems very hush-hush or I just don't know where to look (likely).

I will update this as I get some more hours on this new bulb.
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Might help a bit:
http://www.lightsearch.com/pdf/uhp.pdf

http://www.lampschoice.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=353&category_id=268&manufacturer_id=35&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=7&lang=en

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Update - the "generic" bulb now has 1500+ hours on it and has behaved exactly like a Sony bulb - same aging characteristics - no premature failure or excessive dimming. It has dimmed over time just as a Sony bulb would.
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Update - generic cage + phillips bulb has 2500+ hours - same aging pattern as a "Sony" bulb. I got a new bare phillips bulb from pureland supply and put it in an old sony cage for my next bulb change. Mostly easy to swap bulbs but there is one tricky part - there is a press fit snap panel on the left side of the Sony cage that you have to pry out to get the old bulb out, then snap back together after the new bulb is in. Other than that, all you need to swap bulbs is a phillips screwdriver. I can see how the Sony cage could get weak and unusable at some point because of the press fit panel if you snapped/unsnapped it multiple times.
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Thanks for making and updating this thread, it has been very helpful with my bulb replacement.
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Thanks for making and updating this thread, it has been very helpful with my bulb replacement.

I have been away for a while so I missed you response, but I am glad it has been helpful to someone smile.gif I just ordered a new bare bulb, this time from amazon.com: Philips UHP 9281 356 05390 (this appears to be the correct Philips part number, multiple sites show this part number for a Philips bare bulb)
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Update on this?

My Sony VW60 bulb has 2,000 hrs on it, I usually replace at 1,400 hours but life got busy.
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great info,Other than that, all you need to swap bulbs is a phillips screwdriver. I can see how the Sony cage could get weak and unusable at some point because of the press fit panel if you snapped/unsnapped it multiple times.thanks
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PHILIPS LMP-H200 Projector Lamp with Housing

My last bulb bought in 2012 cost $216, PHILIPS LMP-H200 Projector Lamp with Housing.
exact same bulb today costs $170.

Some others:

$131 via Apex
http://www.apexlamps.com/index.php?r...MRsaAt0P8P8HAQ

$131 via here with OEM bulb and housing
http://www.planetbulb.com/sony-lmp-h...p-and-housing/

Amazon has lots around $100-ish
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_no...ONY%20LMP-H200

So, where did you guys recently buy the LMP-H200 bulb from??

AVS store seems over priced at Your Price: $309
http://shop.avscience.com/Sony-Proje...H200_p_24.html

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Hi All

I have a question regarding projector lamp bulbs and thought that I would post my question on an existing thread than open a new one.

I've got a JVC RS-20 that needs a new bulb. I got a brand new JVC bulb a couple of years ago (manufactured date 03/11/2011) that has been sitting around unopened. I replaced the bulb in the PJ last evening but it seems that the lamp is not as bright as one might expect from a brand new bulb.

So here is my question: Can a PJ bulb deteriorate over time even if it is not used? I'm wondering if it is possible for the gas inside the lamp housing escape slowly over time, such that the lamp loses its intensity even though it is not in use? I'm not an engineer, so pardon me if my assumption of gas inside the lamp housing is pure garbage!

I could of course purchase a new lamp and test my hypothesis, but then I'd be left with another lamp that I might not need for a couple of years and I'll have the same conundrum then!

Thanks for your help.

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I changed my VW60 bulb 5 times over the 5 years that I owned it. (7000+ hours and I tended to change them near 1200)

I always changed the bulb based on the measured light output.

What a surprise I had when I replaced the VW60 with a HW30 and the new bulb had over 4X the light output of the VW60... I don't think the HW30 bulb will ever get nearly as dim as the VW60.

Just something to keep in mind when seeking some lumens from a VW60... The HW30's that AVS had B-stock (and maybe they still have some) are a great alternative to buying that next bulb.
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