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np. what did you decide?
yeah, I'm probably gonna order an Epson 3020 this week. I would really like to get an Epson 5020e or 3020e, however the 5020 is a little above my price, and the 3020e seems to be sold-out everywhere. But, in-general, seems like the 3020 model is very popular, sort of a sign (to me) that it is a solid product for the price.
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yeah, I'm probably gonna order an Epson 3020 this week. I would really like to get an Epson 5020e or 3020e, however the 5020 is a little above my price, and the 3020e seems to be sold-out everywhere. But, in-general, seems like the 3020 model is very popular, sort of a sign (to me) that it is a solid product for the price.

Good luck hope you like it! It's probably all the better you don't get the "e" version. I've tried a couple different HDMI-extender technologies and weren't happy with any of them, just went back to cables. No reason to get stuck with the extra cost if it turns out you can't or don't want to use it. Use a good retailer!
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Good luck hope you like it! It's probably all the better you don't get the "e" version. I've tried a couple different HDMI-extender technologies and weren't happy with any of them, just went back to cables. No reason to get stuck with the extra cost if it turns out you can't or don't want to use it. Use a good retailer!
yeah, I always prefer a hard-connection. However I figured, with the refinement of wireless technologies, the HDMI transmitter would function well, and that I could avoid the physical hassle of routing a cable that long (30ft-plus). But I think I'll just go with an HDMI cable.

By the way, what type/brand screen are you using? I'm considering getting a Black Diamond, Zero Edge (although prices are premium- $2500.00-plus):
http://www.magnoliaav.com/Products/TV-VIDEO/Front-Projection/Screen-Innovations-Black-Diamond-Zero-Edge-G2-100

My room is on the smallish side- 11ft X 11ft X 8ft H. It's also not completely light controlled. Viewing distance would be approx. 9.0ft, trying to figure out best screen dimensions (I'm thinking 70in to 80in wide).

Was initially considering Da-Lite screen models:
http://www.amazon.com/Da-Lite-Screens-Easy-Install-Manual-Screen/dp/B0044FTNV4/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1358978480&sr=8-6&keywords=Da-Lite+Easy+Install+Manual+with+CSR+projection+screen

or possibly:
http://www.amazon.com/Da-Lite-Tensioned-Electrol-Electric-Diagonal/dp/B00029318W/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1358979121&sr=8-2&keywords=Da-Lite+Tensioned+Contour%C2%AE+Electrol%C2%AE

I have a Pioneer Elite Kuro 42in plasma flat-screen mounted on my main front wall. I was considering mounting a retractable type screen (motorized or manual) such that it could be used in front of plasma as desired. I would have both option's for watching/viewing content.

But I may just un-install the plasma from the wall (waste of all my money purchasing the mount and installing the stupid thing) and mount a fixed projection screen to the wall:
http://www.amazon.com/Screen-Innovations-TSF9200-92-Inch-Sensation/dp/B000KI71KO/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1363027261&sr=1-3&keywords=black+diamond+zero+edge
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There isn't as much buzz in this **20 page as the **10 page. I'm going to assume that's a good sign. I have an opportunity to buy a 6010 versus a 6020. Even though the 6010 is about $600 less, I think the 6020 looks like the better choice.

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There isn't as much buzz in this **20 page as the **10 page. I'm going to assume that's a good sign. I have an opportunity to buy a 6010 versus a 6020. Even though the 6010 is about $600 less, I think the 6020 looks like the better choice.

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I guess most action has moved over to their respective threads.

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I was thinking of getting a epson 5020 but I was at a local shop and they told me they had a epson 6010 brand new in box with extra lamp 3 year warranty mount that they would sell me for 2499.00. Should I go with the 5020 or are the improvevents from las year to this year not worth it and save money and go with the 6010? thanks in advance for the input.
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I was thinking of getting a epson 5020 but I was at a local shop and they told me they had a epson 6010 brand new in box with extra lamp 3 year warranty mount that they would sell me for 2499.00. Should I go with the 5020 or are the improvevents from las year to this year not worth it and save money and go with the 6010? thanks in advance for the input.
Go with the 5020.

Mainly you can now use iris in 3d mode. Make a huge difference in blacks!!

Also it's a little brighter and now uses rf glasses unlike the ir ones with 6010.

Also this year models seem sharper.

I had the 6010 and now have the 6020.

Also if your budget allows get the darbee!!!

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Please go easy as I'm very new to projectors & I could be missing something totally obvious, but for the life of me I can't get my TW-9100 (6020) to zoom any 16.9 media. The options in the menu's are all greyed out aside from "normal","Anamorphic Wide", & "Horizontal Squeeze".

I'm bordering on buying a Panamorph Cine-Vista lens, but I would prefer to have a look at the zoom method before I spend a bunch more cash.

If anyone could advise me if I'm missing something obvious or maybe something is wrong with my projector, it would be much appreciated.

This is my second projector, both Epson & I never had this with my first one. Just click the aspect button & change it to zoom. confused.gif

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The "zoom method" uses an optical zoom (using the zoom ring on the lens), not a digital zoom. And just to be clear, you do have a 2.35:1 screen? In which case 16:9 material will have black bars on the sides (nothing is being projected there) and 2.35:1 material will fill the screen (with black bars projected above and below the screen). But maybe you are trying to do something else.
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The "zoom method" uses an optical zoom (using the zoom ring on the lens), not a digital zoom. And just to be clear, you do have a 2.35:1 screen? In which case 16:9 material will have black bars on the sides (nothing is being projected there) and 2.35:1 material will fill the screen (with black bars projected above and below the screen). But maybe you are trying to do something else.

Cheers for the reply.

Nope. You hit the nail on the head. That was what I was trying to do, just lack of experience & know how being new to projectors had me going about it the wrong way.

I am only projecting onto a wall right now, so an A-lens would be the only way.

The other half of my question though was why does my machine not give me the option to digital zoom on pretty much everything?

It's not like I'd want to watch 16:9 stuff zoomed full screen, but the fact my machine physically won't let me do it makes me wonder if there is something wrong with it.

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I have been reading this forum for a few months and has now decided to join in the discussions.
Question: What is your experience with the darbee? I ordered one when I had a Infocus IN83 projector installed. It came in "Dead On Arrival". I replaced the IN83 with the EPSON 6020 back in January. If the experience with the Darbee is a significant improvement, I will try and order another to go with the 6020.
By the way, my set up is as follows:
Screen is 12x5 ft StudioTek 130 G3 fixed. (2.4:1)
Panamorph anamorphic UH480 lens.
Oppo 103 Blu-Ray player.
Room is dedicated 27x18 ft theater.

For those of you who had several problems with the 6020, I must say that the only problem I have experienced is with the noise level. I tried the Panasonic 8000 before I got the 6020 and thought the 6020 would be more quiet but they sound about the same.
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Cheers for the reply.

Nope. You hit the nail on the head. That was what I was trying to do, just lack of experience & know how being new to projectors had me going about it the wrong way.

I am only projecting onto a wall right now, so an A-lens would be the only way.

The other half of my question though was why does my machine not give me the option to digital zoom on pretty much everything?

It's not like I'd want to watch 16:9 stuff zoomed full screen, but the fact my machine physically won't let me do it makes me wonder if there is something wrong with it.

No, nothing wrong with it. Just like everything else, features cost money. There's a reason why AVS has an under $3500 projector thread and an above $3500 thread, and the 3020/6020 is in the 'under' thread.

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No, nothing wrong with it. Just like everything else, features cost money. There's a reason why AVS has an under $3500 projector thread and an above $3500 thread, and the 3020/6020 is in the 'under' thread.

But this is the 3k plus thread. Lol

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But this is the 3k plus thread. Lol

Oh, yeah. You're right! Doesn't change anything though. Nothing wrong with your 6020, just doesn't have digital zoom. I did a quick search on Epson's site and couldn't find any model of theirs that had it.

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Go with the 5020.

Mainly you can now use iris in 3d mode. Make a huge difference in blacks!!

Also it's a little brighter and now uses rf glasses unlike the ir ones with 6010.

Also this year models seem sharper.

I had the 6010 and now have the 6020.

Also if your budget allows get the darbee!!!

Combo is awesome....

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I have a 6020 also. What is the improvement in the picture quality that you are experiencing with the darbee? I ordered one that came in DOA. My projector has a anamorphic lens and is projected on a 12x5 ft , Stewart StudioTek 130, G3, 2.4:1 screen.
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Go with the 5020.

Mainly you can now use iris in 3d mode. Make a huge difference in blacks!!

Also it's a little brighter and now uses rf glasses unlike the ir ones with 6010.

Also this year models seem sharper.

I had the 6010 and now have the 6020.

Also if your budget allows get the darbee!!!

Combo is awesome....

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I have a 6020 also. What is the improvement in the picture quality that you are experiencing with the darbee? I ordered one that came in DOA. My projector has a anamorphic lens and is projected on a 12x5 ft , Stewart StudioTek 130, G3, 2.4:1 screen.
With darbee I get much more depth both in 2d and 3d.

I like the full pop mode as this gives even more shadow depth.

And the detail it brings out is jaw dropping!

Overall everything is improved... you will love it

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Thanks for the quick response. I will go ahead and order another one. Hoping this time it will not be DOA.
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I'm ordering my Epson 6020 this week.

How do you think it will look shining on this?



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I'm ordering my Epson 6020 this week.

How do you think it will look shining on this?



It will look great. By the way, what size screen do you plan to have it projected on? I have the 6020 for about 4 months and it has not disappointed me so far in the 2d or 3d modes. I have had the Panasonic 8000 and the RZ470 projectors for a trial period and I would still take the 6020 over them. I have it projected on a 12x5 ft., 2.4:1 screen.
I also ordered a "darbee" per inputs on this forum. It should be here today.
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That is the screen being shown. After I trim it out, I expect it to be 150"-154" 16:9. It's a Seymour XD acoustic transparent screen with three towers behind it and 2 subs at the bottom right hand corner. Outside of the screen will be trimmed in black speaker cloth allowing the subs to fire through. Of course, black velvet tape to trim out the frame of the screen.

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Deciding between this projector (5020 - called TW8100 in EU) and the Panasonic PT6000 (8000 in US). I can get the Epson through a special offer including 3 3D glasses and ISF calibration for € 2.100, while the Panasonic would cost me € 2.500 (excluding glasses). Main use is gaming and movies (50/50). Currently own a Optoma HD20 but looking for a nice upgrade (and 3D for the kids).

For what it's worth, things important to me :
* low input lag (or at least not worse than my Optoma HD20 which is fine by me)
* as silent as it can be (hate the HD20 noisy fan)
* very good at handshaking (I need to use CAT-extenders and my HD20 has some issue with these)
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Hello, this is my first post in this thread, and I have not read through all of the posts, so I apologize if this has been asked here before. I'm in a huge hurry to get my answer, which is why I haven't read the thread.

I am building a house right now, and the drywall is supposed to go up probably sometime next week.

I'm interested in putting in a projector (Epson 6020UB), so I had a local retailer come to my house and provide an estimate for installation and the projector/screen, etc.

I know many of the posters here recommend using Monoprice HDMI cables, and I've used them with great success over the past few years with my flat panels. I've read before that the longer the run, the greater the chance is that a low cost HDMI cable won't work. The retailer provided an estimate of $249.00 for a 35' HDMI cord, and I could get one for MUCH cheaper than that at monoprice. I'm concerned, however, that once it's put in the ceiling and the new projector is installed that the HDMI cord won't work.

Has anyone here used the Epson 6020UB with a monoprice 35' HDMI? The other end would hook up to a Yamaha RX-A3000 receiver.

Here are the links to a couple of HDMI cables from monoprice that I'm considering.

1) http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10240&cs_id=1024012&p_id=4164&seq=1&format=2

2) http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10240&cs_id=1024002&p_id=2805&seq=1&format=2

3) http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10240&cs_id=1024002&p_id=3571&seq=1&format=2

Thanks!

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Hello, this is my first post in this thread, and I have not read through all of the posts, so I apologize if this has been asked here before. I'm in a huge hurry to get my answer, which is why I haven't read the thread.

I am building a house right now, and the drywall is supposed to go up probably sometime next week.

I'm interested in putting in a projector (Epson 6020UB), so I had a local retailer come to my house and provide an estimate for installation and the projector/screen, etc.

I know many of the posters here recommend using Monoprice HDMI cables, and I've used them with great success over the past few years with my flat panels. I've read before that the longer the run, the greater the chance is that a low cost HDMI cable won't work. The retailer provided an estimate of $249.00 for a 35' HDMI cord, and I could get one for MUCH cheaper than that at monoprice. I'm concerned, however, that once it's put in the ceiling and the new projector is installed that the HDMI cord won't work.

Has anyone here used the Epson 6020UB with a monoprice 35' HDMI? The other end would hook up to a Yamaha RX-A3000 receiver.

Here are the links to a couple of HDMI cables from monoprice that I'm considering.

1) http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10240&cs_id=1024012&p_id=4164&seq=1&format=2

2) http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10240&cs_id=1024002&p_id=2805&seq=1&format=2

3) http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10240&cs_id=1024002&p_id=3571&seq=1&format=2

Thanks!

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Have your builder put in 1" PVC conduit to the projector. That way if the monoprice cable fails or a drywall guy puts a screw it it...you can pull it out and replace.

Or go with http://www.bluejeanscable.com/store/hdmi-cables/ for 1/2 the cost.

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Hello, this is my first post in this thread, and I have not read through all of the posts, so I apologize if this has been asked here before. I'm in a huge hurry to get my answer, which is why I haven't read the thread.

I am building a house right now, and the drywall is supposed to go up probably sometime next week.

I'm interested in putting in a projector (Epson 6020UB), so I had a local retailer come to my house and provide an estimate for installation and the projector/screen, etc.

I know many of the posters here recommend using Monoprice HDMI cables, and I've used them with great success over the past few years with my flat panels. I've read before that the longer the run, the greater the chance is that a low cost HDMI cable won't work. The retailer provided an estimate of $249.00 for a 35' HDMI cord, and I could get one for MUCH cheaper than that at monoprice. I'm concerned, however, that once it's put in the ceiling and the new projector is installed that the HDMI cord won't work.

Has anyone here used the Epson 6020UB with a monoprice 35' HDMI? The other end would hook up to a Yamaha RX-A3000 receiver.

Here are the links to a couple of HDMI cables from monoprice that I'm considering.

1) http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10240&cs_id=1024012&p_id=4164&seq=1&format=2

2) http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10240&cs_id=1024002&p_id=2805&seq=1&format=2

3) http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10240&cs_id=1024002&p_id=3571&seq=1&format=2

Thanks!

Chris

Thats to much money for his cable. As to your suggestions, 22 awg is pretty good, just might be a little thick, making it hard to position, and depending on how you connect to your components, it might can put a strain on the connectors. For the price of the "silver plate" cables, you can get 40' Red Mere. http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10255&cs_id=1025506&p_id=9431&seq=1&format=2
That would be my choice. Just remember, the data flow is one direction when hooking it up. Not bidirectional as most cables are. Check the hdmi section of the forum if you want to research 'em some. They perform very well, and are thinner making 'em easy to locate.

Or, take the $250 he wanted you to spend on his cable, and set up a Cat5, and possible do a little future proofing? As the previous poster mentioned, the conduit is good idea.
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Man, I really wish that I had thought about using PVC BEFORE they placed ran all of my speaker cables. Dang!

I think it might be too late to have them run the PVC now, even for the new HDMI cable. :-(

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Hello, this is my first post in this thread, and I have not read through all of the posts, so I apologize if this has been asked here before. I'm in a huge hurry to get my answer, which is why I haven't read the thread.

I am building a house right now, and the drywall is supposed to go up probably sometime next week.

I'm interested in putting in a projector (Epson 6020UB), so I had a local retailer come to my house and provide an estimate for installation and the projector/screen, etc.

I know many of the posters here recommend using Monoprice HDMI cables, and I've used them with great success over the past few years with my flat panels. I've read before that the longer the run, the greater the chance is that a low cost HDMI cable won't work. The retailer provided an estimate of $249.00 for a 35' HDMI cord, and I could get one for MUCH cheaper than that at monoprice. I'm concerned, however, that once it's put in the ceiling and the new projector is installed that the HDMI cord won't work.

Has anyone here used the Epson 6020UB with a monoprice 35' HDMI? The other end would hook up to a Yamaha RX-A3000 receiver.

Here are the links to a couple of HDMI cables from monoprice that I'm considering.

1) http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10240&cs_id=1024012&p_id=4164&seq=1&format=2

2) http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10240&cs_id=1024002&p_id=2805&seq=1&format=2

3) http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10240&cs_id=1024002&p_id=3571&seq=1&format=2

Thanks!

Chris

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You are getting raped on that cable.

I'm using the Epson 6020 with this cable. It has been great and they are rated for in wall installation.
50 feet for $35 at Amazon.

If the drywall is not up, it's not too late for the PVC pipe. Stop your contractor now! This is highly recomended. In 2 or 3 years when cable specs change, you can easily run a new cable. Hopefully, you have a straight shot.
If you can't run PVC, go ahead and put 2 of these cables in the ceiling. If one ever fails, you'll have a backup.


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Epson 3D RF Glasses: Another Option

Recently, I became aware of a new brand of rechargeable 3D glasses. Dimensional Optics (DO) is offering a variety of glasses, but they have not tested them with Epson products. Because DO states that their glasses are compatible with Samsung and I read that Epson users have found Samsung glasses compatible with Epson products…it seems that DO should be compatible with Epson. Do you remember in Algebra, the Transitive Property of Equality? It states that if a = b and b = c, then a = c.
So I decided to contact DO about testing their glasses with my Epson 6020 projector. The President/CEO of DO, Steve McArthur, contacted me and expressed a desire to have me test their glasses and sent me two different models.

Valueview Glasses (About $25)

3Active Glasses (About $50)

Both are for sale at Amazon.com, Ebay.com and Dimensionoptics.com. I have not seen them for sale anywhere else.

I’ve seen lots of Epson owners asking about less expensive options with 3D glasses. I was fairly excited to have this opportunity to try these out for the first time with my Epson 6020 RF projector.


Here is what Mr. McArthur had to say about these 3D glasses.

“First, our new ValueView™ low-cost 3D products work with Samsung, Panasonic and Sharp RF televisions. In effect, they are essentially the same product and have identical internal circuitry and chipsets. The chipsets have been programmed for all three brands – we have not tested them, however, with any Epson 3D projector products. So, we’ll ship you one of those.”

“ValueView™ is our practical quality product line. ValueView is intended to compete directly with the low-cost, non-rechargeable, cheaply constructed, 3D glasses currently produced by Samsung (SSG-5100GB and SSG-4100GB) that retail for $19.99.”

“As an example, ValueView is fully rechargeable and comes with a storage pouch and USB charging cable. The LCD lenses and associated functionality has been engineered to be better than what Samsung is providing to the consumer. We sell our rechargeable glasses for the same price that they sell their battery powered products. “

“3ACTIVE® is our premium quality product line. The product is rechargeable, full framed, and includes premium LCD lenses, upgraded internal components, a protective storage case, microfiber cleaning cloth and USB charging cable.”

“Both products will auto-sleep upon losing an RF signal.”

“We have programmed the internal chipsets with multiple frequencies such that the devices will operate with multiple brands of 3D televisions. We market the glasses, however, as brand-specific.”





Here are my opinions on my Epson 3D glasses, the Valueview and the 3Active glasses.


Testing: Epson 3D Glasses (Model V12H548006)
Scale: 1-5 (1 = poor, 5 = superior)





Did it link with Epson 6020 Projector: Yes

On/Off switch: Yes

Ease of linking: 4. Turn power switch on. Press linking button. I rated this with a 4 because of the extra step of turning the power switch to the on position.

Connection Quality (Tested around 23’ x 15’ theater): 5. Did not lose connection anywhere in the theater.

Connection Type: RF

Weight (by feel): 4. These are a medium weighted pair of glasses. I do not believe they are too heavy.

Comfort: 4. These feel light and comfortable on the bridge of your nose. Rating of 4 due to the slightly heavier feel. Glasses arm pressure to head is perfect.

Color/Darkness of lenses: Slight tint. Normal for all 3D glasses.

Side shielding: Medium amount.
I found that in a light controlled environment, there is not a need for side shields. I did not test in a lighted environment.

Absence of Crosstalk/Ghosting (stationary): 5

Absence of Crosstalk/Ghosting (panning side to side): 5

Color/Brightness change (panning side to side): None

Rechargeable: Yes

Battery life: Unknown at this time.

Included Case: None were included with my Epson 6020. Includes charging cable.

Price: High. $99

Comments: These glasses are very nice. They feel comfortable on my nose and the pressure on my head is minimal. You need to remember to shut the on/off switch off. Priced very high in my opinion.





Testing: Dimensional Optics 3D Glasses (Model Valueview)
Scale: 1-5 (1 = poor, 5 = superior)






Did it link with Epson 6020 Projector: Yes

On/Off switch: No, but will automatically shut down when it does not sense an RF signal.

Ease of linking: 5. Press linking button.

Connection Quality (Tested around 23’ x 15’ theater): 5. Did not lose connection anywhere in the theater.

Connection Type: RF

Weight (by feel): 5. These a super light!

Comfort: 5. These feel light and comfortable on the bridge of your nose. Rating of 5 due to being the lightest glasses I’ve tried so far. Glasses arm pressure to head is perfect.

Color/Darkness of lenses: Slight tint. Normal for all 3D glasses.

Side shielding: Zero amount.
I found that in a light controlled environment, there is not a need for side shields. I did not test in a lighted environment.

Absence of Crosstalk/Ghosting (stationary): 5

Absence of Crosstalk/Ghosting (panning side to side): 5

Color/Brightness change (panning side to side): None

Rechargeable: Yes

Battery life: Unknown at this time.

Included Case: Soft leather-like squeeze pouch. Includes charging cable. Very basic but adequate.

Price: Very Low. About $25 on Ebay and Amazon




Testing: Dimensional Optics 3D Glasses (Model 3Active)
Scale: 1-5 (1 = poor, 5 = superior)





Did it link with Epson 6020 Projector: Yes

On/Off switch: No, but will automatically shut down when it does not sense an RF signal.

Ease of linking: 5. Press linking button.

Connection Quality (Tested around 23’ x 15’ theater): 5. Did not lose connection anywhere in the theater.

Connection Type: RF

Weight (by feel): 4. These feel sturdy but also a little heavy at the same time.

Comfort: 3. They are comfortable on the bridge of your nose. Glasses arm pressure to head is a little tight.


Color/Darkness of lenses: Slight tint. Normal for all 3D glasses.

Side shielding: High amount.
I found that in a light controlled environment, there is not a need for side shields. I did not test in a lighted environment.

Absence of Crosstalk/Ghosting (stationary): 4. Only minimally noticeable. I did not try and adjust my projector to correct this, since other glasses worked perfectly at the same settings.

Absence of Crosstalk/Ghosting (panning side to side): 3. More noticeable while panning. I did not try and adjust my projector to correct this, since other glasses worked perfectly at the same settings.

Color/Brightness change (panning side to side): Some but only slight. Most will not notice this.

Rechargeable: Yes

Battery life: Unknown at this time.

Included Case: Very sturdy cloth-like covered hard case. Very nice. Includes microfiber cleaning cloth and charging cable. The case has pockets for charging cable storage.

Price: Medium. About $50 on Ebay and Amazon



Summary:
The Epson glasses are very nice glasses. My biggest complaint is the price.
The 3Active glasses seem built very well. I’d say they feel sturdier than the Epson brand glasses. If you are concerned about kids being rough on your glasses, these may be your best choice. They perform well, but not absolutely perfectly.
The Valueview glasses are my preferred choice. They are very light and comfortable. They perform flawlessly with my Epson RF projector and the price point is amazing. At $25 per pair, being rechargeable and very comfortable to wear, I’ll be buying more of these.

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Epson 3D RF Glasses: Another Option

Recently, I became aware of a new brand of rechargeable 3D glasses. Dimensional Optics (DO) is offering a variety of glasses, but they have not tested them with Epson products. Because DO states that their glasses are compatible with Samsung and I read that Epson users have found Samsung glasses compatible with Epson products…it seems that DO should be compatible with Epson. Do you remember in Algebra, the Transitive Property of Equality? It states that if a = b and b = c, then a = c.
So I decided to contact DO about testing their glasses with my Epson 6020 projector. The President/CEO of DO, Steve McArthur, contacted me and expressed a desire to have me test their glasses and sent me two different models.

Valueview Glasses (About $25)

3Active Glasses (About $50)

Both are for sale at Amazon.com, Ebay.com and Dimensionoptics.com. I have not seen them for sale anywhere else.

I’ve seen lots of Epson owners asking about less expensive options with 3D glasses. I was fairly excited to have this opportunity to try these out for the first time with my Epson 6020 RF projector.


Here is what Mr. McArthur had to say about these 3D glasses.

“First, our new ValueView™ low-cost 3D products work with Samsung, Panasonic and Sharp RF televisions. In effect, they are essentially the same product and have identical internal circuitry and chipsets. The chipsets have been programmed for all three brands – we have not tested them, however, with any Epson 3D projector products. So, we’ll ship you one of those.”

“ValueView™ is our practical quality product line. ValueView is intended to compete directly with the low-cost, non-rechargeable, cheaply constructed, 3D glasses currently produced by Samsung (SSG-5100GB and SSG-4100GB) that retail for $19.99.”

“As an example, ValueView is fully rechargeable and comes with a storage pouch and USB charging cable. The LCD lenses and associated functionality has been engineered to be better than what Samsung is providing to the consumer. We sell our rechargeable glasses for the same price that they sell their battery powered products. “

“3ACTIVE® is our premium quality product line. The product is rechargeable, full framed, and includes premium LCD lenses, upgraded internal components, a protective storage case, microfiber cleaning cloth and USB charging cable.”

“Both products will auto-sleep upon losing an RF signal.”

“We have programmed the internal chipsets with multiple frequencies such that the devices will operate with multiple brands of 3D televisions. We market the glasses, however, as brand-specific.”





Here are my opinions on my Epson 3D glasses, the Valueview and the 3Active glasses.


Testing: Epson 3D Glasses (Model V12H548006)
Scale: 1-5 (1 = poor, 5 = superior)





Did it link with Epson 6020 Projector: Yes

On/Off switch: Yes

Ease of linking: 4. Turn power switch on. Press linking button. I rated this with a 4 because of the extra step of turning the power switch to the on position.

Connection Quality (Tested around 23’ x 15’ theater): 5. Did not lose connection anywhere in the theater.

Connection Type: RF

Weight (by feel): 4. These are a medium weighted pair of glasses. I do not believe they are too heavy.

Comfort: 4. These feel light and comfortable on the bridge of your nose. Rating of 4 due to the slightly heavier feel. Glasses arm pressure to head is perfect.

Color/Darkness of lenses: Slight tint. Normal for all 3D glasses.

Side shielding: Medium amount.
I found that in a light controlled environment, there is not a need for side shields. I did not test in a lighted environment.

Absence of Crosstalk/Ghosting (stationary): 5

Absence of Crosstalk/Ghosting (panning side to side): 5

Color/Brightness change (panning side to side): None

Rechargeable: Yes

Battery life: Unknown at this time.

Included Case: None were included with my Epson 6020. Includes charging cable.

Price: High. $99

Comments: These glasses are very nice. They feel comfortable on my nose and the pressure on my head is minimal. You need to remember to shut the on/off switch off. Priced very high in my opinion.





Testing: Dimensional Optics 3D Glasses (Model Valueview)
Scale: 1-5 (1 = poor, 5 = superior)






Did it link with Epson 6020 Projector: Yes

On/Off switch: No, but will automatically shut down when it does not sense an RF signal.

Ease of linking: 5. Press linking button.

Connection Quality (Tested around 23’ x 15’ theater): 5. Did not lose connection anywhere in the theater.

Connection Type: RF

Weight (by feel): 5. These a super light!

Comfort: 5. These feel light and comfortable on the bridge of your nose. Rating of 5 due to being the lightest glasses I’ve tried so far. Glasses arm pressure to head is perfect.

Color/Darkness of lenses: Slight tint. Normal for all 3D glasses.

Side shielding: Zero amount.
I found that in a light controlled environment, there is not a need for side shields. I did not test in a lighted environment.

Absence of Crosstalk/Ghosting (stationary): 5

Absence of Crosstalk/Ghosting (panning side to side): 5

Color/Brightness change (panning side to side): None

Rechargeable: Yes

Battery life: Unknown at this time.

Included Case: Soft leather-like squeeze pouch. Includes charging cable. Very basic but adequate.

Price: Very Low. About $25 on Ebay and Amazon




Testing: Dimensional Optics 3D Glasses (Model 3Active)
Scale: 1-5 (1 = poor, 5 = superior)





Did it link with Epson 6020 Projector: Yes

On/Off switch: No, but will automatically shut down when it does not sense an RF signal.

Ease of linking: 5. Press linking button.

Connection Quality (Tested around 23’ x 15’ theater): 5. Did not lose connection anywhere in the theater.

Connection Type: RF

Weight (by feel): 4. These feel sturdy but also a little heavy at the same time.

Comfort: 3. They are comfortable on the bridge of your nose. Glasses arm pressure to head is a little tight.


Color/Darkness of lenses: Slight tint. Normal for all 3D glasses.

Side shielding: High amount.
I found that in a light controlled environment, there is not a need for side shields. I did not test in a lighted environment.

Absence of Crosstalk/Ghosting (stationary): 4. Only minimally noticeable. I did not try and adjust my projector to correct this, since other glasses worked perfectly at the same settings.

Absence of Crosstalk/Ghosting (panning side to side): 3. More noticeable while panning. I did not try and adjust my projector to correct this, since other glasses worked perfectly at the same settings.

Color/Brightness change (panning side to side): Some but only slight. Most will not notice this.

Rechargeable: Yes

Battery life: Unknown at this time.

Included Case: Very sturdy cloth-like covered hard case. Very nice. Includes microfiber cleaning cloth and charging cable. The case has pockets for charging cable storage.

Price: Medium. About $50 on Ebay and Amazon



Summary:
The Epson glasses are very nice glasses. My biggest complaint is the price.
The 3Active glasses seem built very well. I’d say they feel sturdier than the Epson brand glasses. If you are concerned about kids being rough on your glasses, these may be your best choice. They perform well, but not absolutely perfectly.
The Valueview glasses are my preferred choice. They are very light and comfortable. They perform flawlessly with my Epson RF projector and the price point is amazing. At $25 per pair, being rechargeable and very comfortable to wear, I’ll be buying more of these.

Thanks for this summary review of these glasses. Based on your inputs I ordered 2 pairs of the Valueview glasses.from Amazon. By the way, I have a Epson 6020UB also.
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