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1) I do have an i1Pro and calman and would be measuring and calibrating. Now, it may not present itself as a very noticeable on screen issue, other than measurements, so that is a factor as well. Still I am trying to get to the bottom of whether this is something most units are affected by. My RS40 measures very well (at least at 75% Stimulus), so I wonder if I would actually see the issue.

2) Good

3) Good

4) I'm not a fan of dynamic irises. And I'm pretty stuck on going Bstock because you get a much better value, thee is little year to year variation in most cases, you don't take a HUGE depreciation hit, and you still get a full warranty! Same reason I refuse to buy a brand new car and go with pre-certified cars that have a warranty

5) That is good to know. It also seems that the out of the box RGB measurements show much more red in the these lamps. I have to pull green and blue down like 40-50 clicks on my RS 40 (2 bulbs) in order to get good greyscale tracking. Having to pull much less green out would be a huge benefit to brightness. I realize there is lamp to lamp variance, but this seems to be a common observation for both respective models.

I have not been a DI fan either, but most of that comes from LCD with it's low native contrast. The DI implementation in Sony and this years JVC is very good and I would definitely use it.

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I have a RS50 and a 4810. I've had 2 Epsons prior to the JVCs. No matter what model and brand you get, all projectors will have some sort of "issue". To me it's all about calibrating and enjoying what you have while you have it.

I wish I had more time to enjoy my gear
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I have a RS50 and a 4810. I've had 2 Epsons prior to the JVCs. No matter what model and brand you get, all projectors will have some sort of "issue". To me it's all about calibrating and enjoying what you have while you have it.


No doubt, all displays have idiosyncrasies or even flaws. It's knowing what they are and if they are small or something you can live with. I know of no perfect display, and if there is I certainly can't afford it!

I love my RS40. Is my calibration perfect, nope, but it's good enough. My Gamma has some errors, but I can't see the effect. My calibrated FtL with iris all the way open is only 8! Thats with a 100" 1.1 gain screen and 12 Ft throw. Biggest issue with the RS40 for me is reliability. So I am weighing upgrading vs. holding out for affordable 4K with comparable overall performance....question is how long will that be? No one knows for sure, but I'd wager 3 years at least until very good 4K projectors hit the 3-5k price range. Another year if, like me, you try and scoop up a deal on last years model.

That's where I am at weighing this decision. I've also tossed around the idea of looking for a used Sony 95es, but as I said I'd prefer not having a dynamic Iris. Even with it, I think the JVC still has the edge in black level and contrast.....question is would I be able to tell in my room! Decisions decisions!!!
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Guys, do I have to get the PK-EM2 3D Transmitter to try out the 3D functionality of RS-46 ?

Also, are there are cheaper 3rd party 3D glasses which work with RS-46 ? ... Preferably something which also works with Optoma HD131Xe, since both can use RF for their 3D ?

EDIT: Sorry, I thought this was the RS-46 hangout ... Google's fault, not mine


I bought this IR emitter ($25), and two of these Xpand X103 3D glasses ($19/ea), and the combination works great for watching 3D content streamed from Netflix. With Blu-ray 3D I've run into a sync problem (video demo of problem), but it may be related to the chain of devices the signal passes through from disc to projector/emitter (PS3 > HT-S5300 > RF-WHD200) rather than the emitter and glasses.
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I'm just wondering if a few owners could do me a favor and check to see which firmware version is installed on your unit. If you go into the menu under Information it will list the firmware number there. I'm just curious if my unit is up to date. I do have an X55R. I'm not sure if that matters or if both the 4810 and X55R get the same firmware updates.

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My firmware's 29.001. I bought it the projector as a refurb a week ago. I'd be happy to update it to whatever the latest is (presumably 29.004 or greater), but I can't find any mention of a firmware updater for this projector on jvc's site.

Can anyone confirm whether or not the RS4810 and X55R are the same projector with the same firmware? I've seen some occasional allusion to this on the net, but nothing that seems definite.
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My firmware's 29.001. I bought it the projector as a refurb a week ago. I'd be happy to update it to whatever the latest is (presumably 29.004 or greater), but I can't find any mention of a firmware updater for this projector on jvc's site.

Can anyone confirm whether or not the RS4810 and X55R are the same projector with the same firmware? I've seen some occasional allusion to this on the net, but nothing that seems definite.

Yes I would like to know this info also. I will check mine. Mine is 29.001
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Does anyone know what the fan noise in db is for the 4810 in normal lamp mode? It is not listed on JVC's page. The RS 40 is listed at 20db I think and I can't hear it at all unless I put my ear to it. I've read high lamp mode is louder on the 4810, but I won't be using that much if at all. I've also read that eshift can raise the noise floor?
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Yes I would like to know this info also. I will check mine. Mine is 29.001

I don't see an update listed on JVC's site for the 4810...so was there never a firmware update or change for it? Makes you feel bad for the 4910 owners....
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^ Yeah I know. I just assumed there wasn't any firmware updates for the 4810.
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My X55R was 29.004. I'm assuming that unless the firmware is making a major fix they won't release it to the public.

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One of the AVS guys told me there was no firmware updates at all for the 4810.

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I figured that. But since everyone was asking thought maybe I had missed something.
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Guys, anything to key on as far as settings for the 4810? I am having a hard time with blacks and grainy looking video.

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Guys, anything to key on as far as settings for the 4810? I am having a hard time with blacks and grainy looking video.

Turn down the three settings on the MPC menu page. I don't know about the blacks but that might fix the grainy looking video.
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I have a 4810 for a few months and calibrated it after 100 hours. Now, I am about to re-calibrate it and was wondering... should turn off eShift for calibration or just leave it on and calibrate using "film mode" (which I use 100% of time)? What about Darbie?

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I have a 4810 for a few months and calibrated it after 100 hours. Now, I am about to re-calibrate it and was wondering... should turn off eShift for calibration or just leave it on and calibrate using "film mode" (which I use 100% of time)? What about Darbie?

Leave them both on. Generally you want to calibrate what you watch.
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Ok! Thanks, Scott.

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Gamma issue.... I see the users of 4810 were having issues with the Gamma. I was able to get a good gamma curve on a RS60 by lowering the brightness factor. Not exact sure that the control is light factor. But there are controls that allow you to set the contrast and brightness(black level), I think those controls are called Dark an Light, without using the actual brightness and controls. I haven't tried this on my own 4810 yet.
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Wondering if anyone has experienced a similar issue. I have the X55 and in the last few weeks the remote control power will not turn on the projector. The red light on the front of the projector is on but will not turn on (turn green). The only solution I have found is to unplug the projector completely and wait 10-15 seconds and plug back in. I contacted JVC and they are suggesting I send it in for repair.

Just wondering if anyone has had a similar experience in lieu of shipping it for repairs.

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I'm considering one on the bstock 4810 (and maybe even the sony 95es) I have an RS40 that I am happy with PQ wise and I only care about 2D blu ray movies. I hate to upgrade now with 4K around the corner, though I think it will be a few years until 4K hits my $3K max budget. I can't afford a new PJ every year, but I am concerned the RS40 will not last that long.

Does anyone have a PQ comparison between the RS40 and the 4810, or even the Sony 95ES? Or opinions on what you would do?
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ihave my 4810 for sale in the classifieds .I will lower my asking price 25$ a day untill it sells,or untill it reaches 3k.
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I'm considering one on the bstock 4810 (and maybe even the sony 95es) I have an RS40 that I am happy with PQ wise and I only care about 2D blu ray movies. I hate to upgrade now with 4K around the corner, though I think it will be a few years until 4K hits my $3K max budget. I can't afford a new PJ every year, but I am concerned the RS40 will not last that long.

Does anyone have a PQ comparison between the RS40 and the 4810, or even the Sony 95ES? Or opinions on what you would do?

I went from the rs45 to the rs46 to the vw95 to the rs55 to the 4810. The Sony's nice, but I prefer the 4810 for it's better (non auto iris) contrast and blacks.

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I went from the rs45 to the rs46 to the vw95 to the rs55 to the 4810. The Sony's nice, but I prefer the 4810 for it's better (non auto iris) contrast and blacks.

Would you say there was much different in the 2d picture quality between the rs45 and the 4810?
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Would you say there was much different in the 2d picture quality between the rs45 and the 4810?

- a little bit brighter
- contrast a little better
- much sharper (I'm sure this is mostly due to the eshift, but it's worth the upgrade for this alone imo)
- ISF calibration (for someone who would take advantage of this with a professional)

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Would you say there was much different in the 2d picture quality between the rs45 and the 4810?

I've made that jump before. I would say there is small but noticeable jump in PQ especially when you enable e-shift. You also get access to the CMS which will enable you to get more accurate color than the RS45. There isn't a night and day difference but overall you will see a small one.

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- a little bit brighter
- contrast a little better
- much sharper (I'm sure this is mostly due to the eshift, but it's worth the upgrade for this alone imo)
- ISF calibration (for someone who would take advantage of this with a professional)

If you're looking for something to hold you over until 4k, the lamp upgrade (New Illumination System: 230W NSH lamp & new power supply Up to 4,000 hour lamp life/low lamp mode) in the 4810 might be reason enough.

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I've made that jump before. I would say there is small but noticeable jump in PQ especially when you enable e-shift. You also get access to the CMS which will enable you to get more accurate color than the RS45. There isn't a night and day difference but overall you will see a small one.



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If you're looking for something to hold you over until 4k, the lamp upgrade (New Illumination System: 230W NSH lamp & new power supply Up to 4,000 hour lamp life/low lamp mode) in the 4810 might be reason enough.

I actually have an rs40 and a darbee. Color tracking on my sample is actually pretty good. I calibrated grayscale and gamma and honestly I'm still pretty happy with it. More worried about the reliably of it for another few years until 4k is around $3k. Otherwise I'd hold out for 4k.

I missed out on this round of b stock rs4810's. I just couldn't decide what do to. There may be more at some point. It was hard to justify replacing something that still looks great out of fear that it might break. But doing so resets my budget to $0 where as if I keep saving, more $$ for a 4k unit.

Hard choice to make. Pretty much a gamble either way.
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I'm considering one on the bstock 4810 (and maybe even the sony 95es) I have an RS40 that I am happy with PQ wise and I only care about 2D blu ray movies. I hate to upgrade now with 4K around the corner, though I think it will be a few years until 4K hits my $3K max budget. I can't afford a new PJ every year, but I am concerned the RS40 will not last that long.

Does anyone have a PQ comparison between the RS40 and the 4810, or even the Sony 95ES? Or opinions on what you would do?

I purchased a b-stock from AVS. It was an upgrade from the RS45 and we could not be happier. It was definitely an upgrade in picture quality. Jump on it while you can

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