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post #3871 of 3898 Old 12-21-2014, 10:21 AM
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I just got my 133'' SI 2.35:1 screen mounted and went to dial in the PT-AE8000u projector and I cant seem to get the image focused at all unless it is zoomed all the way to the largest size which is larger than my screen. If I put the test pattern up with it zoomed to its default smaller size and try to focus with remote and by the controls on the side of the projector it doesnt do anything or ever focus tried +&-. Maybe it is a defective unit? The instructions say it could be over tilted but even at level it wasnt doing anything.

Is there a trick to getting this thing sized up to my screen? I tried using The Hobbit in 2.4:1 and the focus wasn't working and couldnt figure out how to zoom it both height and width to save in memory since every thing goes blurry when I zoom.

I have it hanging from 11' ceiling using a 2.5' extension and is about 15' back from the screen.
Is your pj brand new? If so, I would double check none of the packing material is behind the lens in the cavity. The 8000 comes with like 8 pieces of foam to protect the lens...I remember I had one fall back into the cavity and was limiting focus. Just a thought to eliminate one thing. Hopefully it's nothing more serious.

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Yes brand new and I made sure even at level on mount it will not focus at all. If I open the cover to look for foam will it void my warranty and I assume the zoom mechanism is behind the lens?
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Yes brand new and I made sure even at level on mount it will not focus at all. If I open the cover to look for foam will it void my warranty and I assume the zoom mechanism is behind the lens?
Did you remove the foam from around the lens? It's square and between the lens frame and body of the projector.
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Crisis averted; the foam around the lens was still in place. Now it will focus and I have the screen height zoomed in almost perfectly. Basically right now I have a 16:9 image since the test pattern is full top and bottom with room onthe sides right? On a 2.35 screen how do I do the horizontal image stretch to fill the full screen on a 2.35 movie like I am Legend or The Hobbit?
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On a 2.35 screen how do I do the horizontal image stretch to fill the full screen on a 2.35 movie like I am Legend or The Hobbit?
Zoom to fill the screen or buy an anamorphic lens. If zooming you'll need to take the black bars that spill over the edge of the screen on top and bottom into consideration. You'd want to put up masking to make sure the black bars aren't a visible distraction.

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Crisis averted; the foam around the lens was still in place. Now it will focus and I have the screen height zoomed in almost perfectly. Basically right now I have a 16:9 image since the test pattern is full top and bottom with room onthe sides right? On a 2.35 screen how do I do the horizontal image stretch to fill the full screen on a 2.35 movie like I am Legend or The Hobbit?
LOL my buddy did the same thing. We could hear the motor trying to focus but it just wouldn't do it!
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So I test-installed my PT AT6000 and ended up with a problem.

I am making a scope screen for CIH setup and trying to determine the best position for it. The PJ is set up as a desk model, but stands high on a mount, just below my soffit.
I've been struggling all afternoon trying to get both scope and 16/9 content onto the same screen and failing.

After trying everyting with zoom and V-position and V-area position, I placed the projector a lot lower and had no problem at all anymore putting both scope and 16/9 content onto the same screen.

So the question is, if I want to place my PJ beneath my soffit, do I have to ceiling mount it (upside down) and set it up that way,to get both 16/9 and 2:35/1 onto the same CIH screen?

I added some pics to clarify my situation

temp screenwall (the screen has been replaced 4" up)


Soffit with the PJ mount top right hand corner


Thanks in advance for your thoughts on this
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So I test-installed my PT AT6000 and ended up with a problem.

I am making a scope screen for CIH setup and trying to determine the best position for it. The PJ is set up as a desk model, but stands high on a mount, just below my soffit.
I've been struggling all afternoon trying to get both scope and 16/9 content onto the same screen and failing.

After trying everyting with zoom and V-position and V-area position, I placed the projector a lot lower and had no problem at all anymore putting both scope and 16/9 content onto the same screen.

So the question is, if I want to place my PJ beneath my soffit, do I have to ceiling mount it (upside down) and set it up that way,to get both 16/9 and 2:35/1 onto the same CIH screen?

I added some pics to clarify my situation

temp screenwall (the screen has been replaced 4" up)


Soffit with the PJ mount top right hand corner


Thanks in advance for your thoughts on this
I had my projector sitting temporarily in table top position on my rear wall until recently, when I flipped it upside down and, mounted it Just below our soffit... So the answer to your question is no it is not required to mount it upside down to get multiple aspect ratios.

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that is exactly my problem... when you had it in table top position, was it at the same height as it is now flipped upside down, just beneath your soffit?
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So I test-installed my PT AT6000 and ended up with a problem.

I am making a scope screen for CIH setup and trying to determine the best position for it. The PJ is set up as a desk model, but stands high on a mount, just below my soffit.
I've been struggling all afternoon trying to get both scope and 16/9 content onto the same screen and failing.

After trying everyting with zoom and V-position and V-area position, I placed the projector a lot lower and had no problem at all anymore putting both scope and 16/9 content onto the same screen.

So the question is, if I want to place my PJ beneath my soffit, do I have to ceiling mount it (upside down) and set it up that way,to get both 16/9 and 2:35/1 onto the same CIH screen?

I added some pics to clarify my situation

temp screenwall (the screen has been replaced 4" up)


Soffit with the PJ mount top right hand corner


Thanks in advance for your thoughts on this
The higher you mount the pj, the closer you come to reaching the limits of where the bottom horizontal of the image hits. However, the top and bottom limits should be equal whether the pj upside down or not...so the image is shifting with the pj...and lens shift and keystone adjustments can tweek further.


For optimal brightness, horizontally and verticalyl center mounted to the screen is ideal...but not necessary. Too far off on either axis will affect getting the ratio zoom to fit.

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To make 16X9 and 2.35:1 fit on the same screen, you need to setup 16x9 first.

Then you use the vertical lens shift under the lens submenu to vertically adjust the 2.35:1 picture to fit the screen top and bottom.
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To make 16X9 and 2.35:1 fit on the same screen, you need to setup 16x9 first.

Then you use the vertical lens shift under the lens submenu to vertically adjust the 2.35:1 picture to fit the screen top and bottom.
This is what I did. Problem was that the Vertical adjustment only took me about halfway there. When I hit +35 it stops moving as a total image, and only shrinks the bottom.

If mounting upside down isn't the answer I guess I should start testing at what height I actually do get both images onto the screen.
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Make sure you use the right vertical offset. There are two in the menus. The one you want is under lens.

Question about Panasonic AE8000U Cinema Scope to 16X9 (zoom)

If you are doing it right according to these instructions and still having problems, then you are outside the limits of the limited mounting window allowed if you are using the projectors auto aspect change function. The user manual, available online, gives you the precise limits of height and width in relation to center of screen that you can use to enjoy this function. Make sure you projector is hung within these limits.

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Btw, the auto aspect change funtion works fine upside down or rightside up. It isn't limited by that. It is limited by mounting placement in relation to the actual center of the screen.
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Make sure you use the right vertical offset. There are two in the menus. The one you want is under lens.

Question about Panasonic AE8000U Cinema Scope to 16X9 (zoom)

If you are doing it right according to these instructions and still having problems, then you are outside the limits of the limited mounting window allowed if you are using the projectors auto aspect change function. The user manual, available online, gives you the precise limits of height and width in relation to center of screen that you can use to enjoy this function. Make sure you projector is hung within these limits.

Don't give up! This functionality is the holy grail of this projector.
Thanks for the help.
I believe I am outside of the parameters.
I looked at the limits spoken of in the manual, The distance from the center of the lens to the image lower end (and thus the flexibility in placement) is always -1 to +2.33 (in relation to screen diameter). Since it allows little over double the vertical displacement in the upward position, I was thinking hanging it upside down would solve my problem.
I'll give it some more experimenting!
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that is exactly my problem... when you had it in table top position, was it at the same height as it is now flipped upside down, just beneath your soffit?
I put it at the same height... Just flipped it upside down and mounted it instead of sitting on top of a temp fixture.

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This is what I did. Problem was that the Vertical adjustment only took me about halfway there. When I hit +35 it stops moving as a total image, and only shrinks the bottom.

If mounting upside down isn't the answer I guess I should start testing at what height I actually do get both images onto the screen.
Do you have the projector centered (or close to center... left to right) on the screen?

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Do you have the projector centered (or close to center... left to right) on the screen?
it's as good as centered when standing normal, flipped upside down, the lens is toward the right of the screen
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Can someone help me figure out if there's a setting to being the colors closer together? The red outline is really off... I dont know what I doing wrong here or if an option even exists in the setting menu somewhere.

From my seating area, I can notice it a bit with a 1080p image. Ive done everything I can think of to focus it.

Im projecting on a 158" screen, and dont know if its normal or to be expected at this size?
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That almost looks like 3d is engaged. That is not right if it is only 2d
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it's as good as centered when standing normal, flipped upside down, the lens is toward the right of the screen
Have you tried moving the projector over so the image is on the screen before you use the digital part to move it over? I'm thinking if you do it that way, and then go and start the whole process over again with setting up 16x9, and then 2.35 it might work out for you.

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Can someone help me figure out if there's a setting to being the colors closer together? The red outline is really off... I dont know what I doing wrong here or if an option even exists in the setting menu somewhere.

From my seating area, I can notice it a bit with a 1080p image. Ive done everything I can think of to focus it.

Im projecting on a 158" screen, and dont know if its normal or to be expected at this size?
I would say it is not normal... i don't have that problem at 188" scope.

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Its in 2D mode.
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Wowzers thats really off. You need to send that one back for sure.
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A quick follow up to my blue issue I was seeing on mine. The coverage is just about spot on using many, and I mean many different patterns. I have also looked at a few other projectors under the same situations and they seem to do it too. So I am going to conclude that its some weird lighting artifact with bright images with a black background and stop worrying about it. Text looks good, focus looks good, from my seat everything looks awesome.

However, Readthis13, yours looks way off and definitely not normal. @Archaea is right, it looks like 3D is on, its that far off. How bad does it look with an actual movie image? Regardless, I would send it back.
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For optimal brightness, horizontally and verticalyl center mounted to the screen is ideal...but not necessary
Would centering H&V also add to other areas like overall picture quality, focus or depth? I can and would lower mine if the benefit outweighed the fact I block the screen when I stand up.
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Have you tried moving the projector over so the image is on the screen before you use the digital part to move it over? I'm thinking if you do it that way, and then go and start the whole process over again with setting up 16x9, and then 2.35 it might work out for you.
I've moved my PJ down (see pic). At this position I can get both images onto the same screen.
I think the problem is that with using the zoom to get the 2.35 stretched out, it also severely reduces flexibility in placement given my throw distance isn't that far...
So I believe I'm stuck at this position. I Guess I'll make the best of it.
Thanks for all the advice and help.
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Initial impressions are it is in improvement on the Panasonic ae8000u, but however it's very subtle --- until it's not.


What I mean is - at a setting that looks like an improvement it's very subtle, when you turn it up over about 35 or 40 it starts detracting in my opinion, and at 100% it looks bad. My wife likes it better without it - even at 35% or 40% she said. She says it looks sharper, but she doesn't want to see that level of detail. Doesn't want to see pock marks on actors face etc. Watching some demo clips last night - I watched some scenes from the Star Wars reboot and I didn't realize that the actor who is playing the young James Kirk has so many acne scars, but you can tell pretty easily with the darbee. Not sure if that's good or bad. Probably more realistic --- maybe not something I care to be concerned with... It's a hard sell to me, even at $200. If it was $100 I'd probably say everyone should buy one and try it out, at $200 I think most people should just pass, at $300 I'd had interest but not enough to pick one up myself. The Panasonic Projector already looks sooooo good anyway.

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