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Be sure you get a High speed HDMI cable for 3D. Used to be referred to as 1.4.

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I wouldn't purchase the PS3 glasses for your own every use glasses... Even though functionally they work great, comfort-wise they suck... They are heavy and the temples squeeze your head above your ears to the point of making your head hurt. They would be fine for extras though.... for guest viewers..



I would definitely stick with the Panasonic TY-EW3d3m 3rd generation glasses as they work great and are nice and light (27 grams) and comfortable. Plus they hold a charge for a very long time... many movie viewings on a single charge.



I haven't personally used the Vue glasses...but with the non rechargeable battery and the flat wide open at the side style, they appear very similar to the Panasonic 1st gen glasses which had problems with reflected light getting in from the side due to that same open design...



On a side note, if the price of the PS3 glasses is too tempting to pass up, but you do find that the temples are indeed too tight... you can do the boiling water adjustment trick! Fill a tall mug or glass with boiling water and hold one of the temples in the water for about 30 seconds. Then take it out and carefully bend the end of the temple outward a bit and hold it there. You can then "set" it by putting it in some ice water. I did this trick on a couple pairs and it worked well to take the extra pressure off of my head....although they still are about twice as heavy as the Panny glasses which makes them just bit uncomfortable in that respect yet...

I was wondering if these glasses are compatible, they are on sale at bestbuy. Maybe the 4 means next generation to what you recommended above?

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I was wondering if these glasses are compatible, they are on sale at bestbuy. Maybe the 4 means next generation to what you recommended above?

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Indeed, those are the next (4th) gen glasses... but they are RF.... and unfortunately you need the IR glasses...With the Panasonic models you need to look for TY-EW in the prefix...
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[QUOTE=deano86;31337129]Indeed, those are the next (4th) gen glasses... but they are RF.... and unfortunately you need the IR glasses...With the Panasonic models you need to look for TY-EW in the prefix...


Correct, and they also need to be 3D3--NOT 3D4.


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Just pulled the trigger on Panasonic PT-AE8000U over the Sony 40es & Epson 5030ub......Hope I'm not disappointed coming from my Benq w1070.
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Just pulled the trigger on Panasonic PT-AE8000U over the Sony 40es & Epson 5030ub......Hope I'm not disappointed coming from my Benq w1070.
I went from the BenQ w1070 to the AE8000, and i have zero regrets.

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I went from the BenQ w1070 to the AE8000, and i have zero regrets.
That's good to hear....How you like it with the Darbee combination ? I got a Darbee darblet coming this week also with my projector.
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That's good to hear....How you like it with the Darbee combination ? I got a Darbee darblet coming this week also with my projector.
I loved it before the Darbee, and now I love it even more. Biggest feature I wanted was the auto zoom/focus... I don't know how I ever lived without it.
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I loved it before the Darbee, and now I love it even more. Biggest feature I wanted was the auto zoom/focus... I don't know how I ever lived without it.
Okay this projector going to hold me for a couple years until 4k prices become cheaper .... Also what was the sweet spot( percentage) you got your Darbee set at ?

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I received my replacement AE8000U yesterday. The panel alignment on this unit is much better. However, this one makes a very audible buzzing sound. It is not the fan, I suspect it's a transformer in the power supply. I can hear it from my main seating position about six feet away. Is this normal with this model or did I get another lemon?

EDIT: Just searched for 'whine' instead of 'buzz' and found that this issue is pretty widespread. Very unfortunate. I guess I have to decide if I can live with it, and if not, spend more money on a better projector.

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I received my replacement AE8000U yesterday. The panel alignment on this unit is much better. However, this one makes a very audible buzzing sound. It is not the fan, I suspect it's a transformer in the power supply. I can hear it from my main seating position about six feet away. Is this normal with this model or did I get another lemon?

EDIT: Just searched for 'whine' instead of 'buzz' and found that this issue is pretty widespread. Very unfortunate. I guess I have to decide if I can live with it, and if not, spend more money on a better projector.
mine does not buzz
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I received my replacement AE8000U yesterday. The panel alignment on this unit is much better. However, this one makes a very audible buzzing sound. It is not the fan, I suspect it's a transformer in the power supply. I can hear it from my main seating position about six feet away. Is this normal with this model or did I get another lemon?

EDIT: Just searched for 'whine' instead of 'buzz' and found that this issue is pretty widespread. Very unfortunate. I guess I have to decide if I can live with it, and if not, spend more money on a better projector.
I can sit next to mine and I can't hear it. Replace it again until it's perfect.... it's worth it. A better pj will be twice the price.

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wow - major convergence issue

Just received my ae8000 yesterday from B&H. Have been planning to use this years tax return to upgrade the ae4000 I bought new back in 2010. When I saw the sale price PP and B&H were offering through the end of this week, I decided to go ahead and jump on it. Being familiar with these projectors, the first thing I did after firing it up was to check for panel alignment issues. The convergence on my 4000 is far from perfect, but I've never seen anything near as bad as this. There's no way this is within tolerance. I'm going to contact B&H later today about an exchange. I'm really hoping they don't make me pay return shipping on something thats this outta whack right out of the box.

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More questions on 3D glasses. I have a few of the PS3 glasses and considering how cheap they were they seem pretty good but it would be awesome if I could get something a little brighter. I ordered a pair of TY-EW3D3MU from Amazon (over $100) to give them a try but they sent a pair of TY-ER... instead. The box has a bar code for the TY-EW.. on them so I do not know whether to accuse the seller of scamming me but the real question is (after searching around) does anyone even HAVE these glasses anywhere? I find them in a few listings and the wording is suspect; they do not sound like they are really panny glasses. Beyond that does anyone know if better glasses really will be a bit brighter?

All in all despite taking me 18 months to decide to replace my old Sanyo PJ, I REALLY like the Panny.

Any comments appreciated.

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Just received my ae8000 yesterday from B&H. Have been planning to use this years tax return to upgrade the ae4000 I bought new back in 2010. When I saw the sale price PP and B&H were offering through the end of this week, I decided to go ahead and jump on it. Being familiar with these projectors, the first thing I did after firing it up was to check for panel alignment issues. The convergence on my 4000 is far from perfect, but I've never seen anything near as bad as this. There's no way this is within tolerance. I'm going to contact B&H later today about an exchange. I'm really hoping they don't make me pay return shipping on something thats this outta whack right out of the box.

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BH will exchange it easily. That looks like crap.

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More questions on 3D glasses. I have a few of the PS3 glasses and considering how cheap they were they seem pretty good but it would be awesome if I could get something a little brighter. I ordered a pair of TY-EW3D3MU from Amazon (over $100) to give them a try but they sent a pair of TY-ER... instead. The box has a bar code for the TY-EW.. on them so I do not know whether to accuse the seller of scamming me but the real question is (after searching around) does anyone even HAVE these glasses anywhere? I find them in a few listings and the wording is suspect; they do not sound like they are really panny glasses. Beyond that does anyone know if better glasses really will be a bit brighter?

All in all despite taking me 18 months to decide to replace my old Sanyo PJ, I REALLY like the Panny.

Any comments appreciated.

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Doubtful...3d by design always dims down due to the glass tint on all 3d glasses. Adjust and save a setting for 3d viewing with brightness kicked up to your taste.

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Just received my ae8000 yesterday from B&H. Have been planning to use this years tax return to upgrade the ae4000 I bought new back in 2010. When I saw the sale price PP and B&H were offering through the end of this week, I decided to go ahead and jump on it. Being familiar with these projectors, the first thing I did after firing it up was to check for panel alignment issues. The convergence on my 4000 is far from perfect, but I've never seen anything near as bad as this. There's no way this is within tolerance. I'm going to contact B&H later today about an exchange. I'm really hoping they don't make me pay return shipping on something thats this outta whack right out of the box.

It looks to me like it was dropped when it was shipped. Was it shipped by UPS by chance?

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Since this seems to a common problem, I guess no one fires these up before shipping out.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised since it took three Pro8100s before I got one that was satisfactory and they came for the factory. That's really scary.

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Just received my ae8000 yesterday from B&H. Have been planning to use this years tax return to upgrade the ae4000 I bought new back in 2010. When I saw the sale price PP and B&H were offering through the end of this week, I decided to go ahead and jump on it. Being familiar with these projectors, the first thing I did after firing it up was to check for panel alignment issues. The convergence on my 4000 is far from perfect, but I've never seen anything near as bad as this. There's no way this is within tolerance. I'm going to contact B&H later today about an exchange. I'm really hoping they don't make me pay return shipping on something thats this outta whack right out of the box.
My third AE8000 is arriving from B&H tomorrow. I've just used their online RMA system and had no issues. I haven't paid a dime in shipping.
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Doubtful...3d by design always dims down due to the glass tint on all 3d glasses. Adjust and save a setting for 3d viewing with brightness kicked up to your taste.
The tint on the Panasonic glasses (the RF version I was sent incorrectly) is considerably less than the Sonys so I suspect the IR versions would be the same. I just can't find them yet. I keep seeing "TY-EW3D3MU compatible" so not sure what those are. I did not buy the Panny with 3D in mind but I figure since it has it I should be fully able to use it. Nice for when guests come by. BTW: already have a nice 3D setting saved and I use the FUNCTION button for the memory load menu. That all works nice. I only have room for a 92" screen so as you can imagine the Panny looks awesome on that small screen.

Anyway if anyone sees the panny IR glasses somewhere please let me know.

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Since this seems to a common problem, I guess no one fires these up before shipping out.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised since it took three Pro8100s before I got one that was satisfactory and they came for the factory. That's really scary.
I feel quite lucky in getting a good 8000 first try and way back at my Z2 the same luck. This kind of thing makes me insane and no one should have to go through 3!
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It looks to me like it was dropped when it was shipped. Was it shipped by UPS by chance?
It was shipped by UPS. Box didn't show any signs of abuse though. And in all fairness, I buy a lot of things on the internet and I've seen my share of inadequacies from FedEx and USPS as well.

Happy to report that so far B&H is taking good care of me. Projector number two will arrive today via complementary one day shipping that went out yesterday even though my call was after the deadline, and the CSR offered a prepaid return label without my even having to ask. I've bought from B&H plenty of times in the past, as well as coordinating friend/family/coworker purchases from them, but I've never had to make use of their customer service before. Always nice when something lives up to its reputation.

Now I just hope "second time's a charm" in my situation.

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It was shipped by UPS. Box didn't show any signs of abuse though. And in all fairness, I buy a lot of things on the internet and I've seen my share of inadequacies from FedEx and USPS as well.

Happy to report that so far B&H is taking good care of me. Projector number two will arrive today via complementary one day shipping that went out yesterday even though my call was after the deadline, and the CSR offered a prepaid return label without my even having to ask. I've bought from B&H plenty of times in the past, as well as coordinating friend/family/coworker purchases from them, but I've never had to make use of their customer service before. Always nice when something lives up to its reputation.

Now I just hope "second time's a charm" in my situation.
The reason I had asked about UPS is they have a policy for claims... If it is damaged it was either improperly packed or it is fraud. A lot of complaints of UPS damaging packages and they won't pay for the damage even if insured.If I ship with UPS I have them pack it so they are responsible.

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I have a few of the PS3 glasses and considering how cheap they were they seem pretty good but it would be awesome if I could get something a little brighter.
I own the Panny glasses as well as the PS3 glasses and I don't see any difference in brightness between the two...
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Anyway if anyone sees the panny IR glasses somewhere please let me know.
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I own the Panny glasses as well as the PS3 glasses and I don't see any difference in brightness between the two...
Well in that case I will save my money because for the occasional group watch the Sonys are comfortable enough etc. I do not think I will look for a higher end 3D solution until finding content I want is automatic (easy) and not a hunt like it is now. I had to go through a lot of movies to find one or two I wanted.

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asoofi1, I really, REALLY appreciate that you posted this...

I received an Elite screen for Christmas and was amazed at the value coming from a DIY AT screen using CenterStage XD material. After a couple of weeks, I started to notice the weave or more to the point, moire in bright scenes. I was so bummed as once you see it, you can't "not see it" now. Of course, I never had a problem with my old screen material. What is funny is I have a good friend with the same PJ & screen and I don't see the problem in his room even from a closer distance.

I was thinking about sending it back to Amazon but I like the size of the new screen and never thought to contact Elite. I just contacted them and they are going to take care of me with the upgraded material!!!

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That's great to hear...I think you'll be very happy with the new material. You shouldn't be able to see the weave from more than 2-3 feet. Keep us posted.
I just installed the replacement screen material and the picture has never looked better. aloofi1, you are correct, you need to be very close to the screen to see the weave. Elite Screens was very easy to work with and they exceeded my expectations...I highly recommend them.

assofi1, thanks again for pointing me in the right direction!!
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Here is a review that talks about the differences between the 1st, 2nd and 3rd generations of their 3d glasses... It mentions that they managed to make the lens thinner which allowed more light as compared to the earlier versions...

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/437...ew/index.html#

Several months ago, I got lucky and scored a set of 6 of the 3rd gen glasses for a fantastic price on Ebay, which allowed me to sell the PS3 glasses. My first thought upon getting the Panny glasses was that in addition to how much more comfortable they were, was that they did seem to be just slightly brighter....The lens area seemed to be larger, possibly?

At any rate, you could also go into the 3d settings menu and try changing the "3d eyewear brightness" from Normal to Light. The trade off obviously is perhaps a bit more ghosting on some images depending on the source 3d movie. Just depends on how sensitive you are to it, I guess....
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Here is a review that talks about the differences between the 1st, 2nd and 3rd generations of their 3d glasses... It mentions that they managed to make the lens thinner which allowed more light as compared to the earlier versions...

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/437...ew/index.html#

Several months ago, I got lucky and scored a set of 6 of the 3rd gen glasses for a fantastic price on Ebay, which allowed me to sell the PS3 glasses. My first thought upon getting the Panny glasses was that in addition to how much more comfortable they were, was that they did seem to be just slightly brighter....The lens area seemed to be larger, possibly?

At any rate, you could also go into the 3d settings menu and try changing the "3d eyewear brightness" from Normal to Light. The trade off obviously is perhaps a bit more ghosting on some images depending on the source 3d movie. Just depends on how sensitive you are to it, I guess....
LOL! More confusion now! I am going to read that article. I already found that setting and went to the brighter one.
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