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post #4561 of 4585 Old 07-17-2015, 07:12 PM
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Blacks / Contrast Issue

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I am sending mine back in again. @Archaea and I did some comparisons between the ours last night at his house and mine looks horrible compared to his.

[see photo in related post]

Pretty easy to see.. Mine

I sent this photos in to Panasonic and they are adding them to my case from before. They haven't given the green light to send it in yet but it does sound promising.

I am hoping they can get it corrected. I really do like this projector for its features but the image on mine makes everything look bad/off.
Hi, just got an 8000 for $1500 and for the first week picture was perfect: stunning!

Now a month later I have precisely the same contrast / blacks issue you report: a green washout in a diagonal from lower-left to top-right, especially in corners.

The photos stitch1 posted in his comparison perfectly demonstrate what I see on my unit.

Since this issue has developed, my experience of this 8000 is more like the PT-AR100, which this unit replaces.

My situation is not as bad as the post-service image posted after the report, which shows a spectacularly worsened alignment.

My unit is still quite watchable. I figure some users wouldn't even notice what we're complaining about. But I notice and am missing the greatness which I have seen projector can deliver.

Previously I had a PT-AX100 that after a year developed scorched blue polarizer and looked terrible! I replaced the polarizer myself which was I huge challenge, and it was better but never returned to great, prolly because I don't know how to align properly.

After that I got PT-AR100 which was a certain step up from the AX100, but it developed a serious color gradient which makes watching B/W content gross.

Out o box the AE8000 was devastatingly good. But in a month has developed this blacks / contrast defect.

All three of my units have something in common: I purchased after big price reductions. This is total speculation but I am wondering if there's a connection between price drop Panasonic compensating for production variability / sort issues?

To stitch1: would you continue to describe your dialog with Panasonic Service?

I am concerned that if I engage Panasonic Service they already knows these units are marginal, and messing with it could make the situation worse.

Thanks
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Yes, I would. To me it's unacceptable. To most they probably wouldn't even notice. But it's a huge deal to me. I am lucky to live near the repair center. So, it's not a big deal to me to pack it up and take it to them. I am picking mine up from there after work today. I am very hopeful they were able to correct it this time. If not I am not sure what else to do but keep complaining to support.
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Good news, I received my projector back and it seems they were able to fix it. Below is a pic of what it looks like now after getting it back.

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My projector is showing the message to replace the lamp, does AVS sell the replacement lamp?
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Good news, I received my projector back and it seems they were able to fix it. Below is a pic of what it looks like now after getting it back.

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Glad things turned out well for you.

Do you see much improvement during normal viewing ?

Did they give any indication of what the problem was or what part(s) needed to be fixed ?

Thanks in advance.
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Yes the contrast is definitely a noticeable difference. The repair slip just said replaced optics.
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I'm going to replace my AE-3000U with the 8000U. I have a 7 yr old Pioneer VSX-1018AH receiver with HDMI 1.3a. Would I have any issues using the 8000 with that receiver? If not, should I still consider upgrading my receiver; would it make a big difference?

Also, is there more than one model for this projector? Some places list "2012 model". Is there a "2014" or "2015" version?

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Your HDMI 1.3a won't pass 3D.
http://denon.custhelp.com/app/answer...1.4-and-2.0%3F


Depending on your source, you could still send 3D directly to one of the alternate HDMI ins on the 8000 and deal with the sound by other means [a secondary HDMI out or say a digital sound connection], otherwise you'll need a 3D switcher/splitter or a new receiver.

In A/V reproduction accuracy, there is no concept of "accounting for taste". We don't "pick" the level of bass, etc., any more than we pick the ending of a play. High fidelity means an unmodified, neutral, exact copy (or "reproduction") of the original artist's tonal balance, timing, dynamics, etc..
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Hello.

Just got my Pana PT-AT6000e. I do know it is the european model. I am from Denmark. It is my first projector. The last 7-8 years i have been thinking of buying one, so i am very happy, that it finally happened.

It is mounted to the ceiling with a Vogels ppc 1500 bracket.

It's hanging a bit above the top of the screen, which i was told, did not matter!

But i dont know how to correctly set the image position with the pana, so it fits the screen as it should? There seems to be "missing" a bit of the i afe in the upper left, and right corner. I did try to use keystone (you hate keystone, right?)

Also zoomed the picture so it went a couple of inches out of the screen, and then corrected using v-position and h-position, and a bit of keystone... Still not perfect though!

Is there a better way to get the picture right??

- René, Denmark.
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Hello.

Just got my Pana PT-AT6000e. I do know it is the european model. I am from Denmark. It is my first projector. The last 7-8 years i have been thinking of buying one, so i am very happy, that it finally happened.

It is mounted to the ceiling with a Vogels ppc 1500 bracket.

It's hanging a bit above the top of the screen, which i was told, did not matter!

But i dont know how to correctly set the image position with the pana, so it fits the screen as it should? There seems to be "missing" a bit of the i afe in the upper left, and right corner. I did try to use keystone (you hate keystone, right?)

Also zoomed the picture so it went a couple of inches out of the screen, and then corrected using v-position and h-position, and a bit of keystone... Still not perfect though!

Is there a better way to get the picture right??

- René, Denmark.
Btw. The screen is a danish build high-end screen! Lissau Tab Tension True Colour 110"
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I'm looking into purchasing this projector this week. Are there many owners here who have had issues with this unit that needed repair?
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Hello.

Just got my Pana PT-AT6000e. I do know it is the european model. I am from Denmark. It is my first projector. The last 7-8 years i have been thinking of buying one, so i am very happy, that it finally happened.

It is mounted to the ceiling with a Vogels ppc 1500 bracket.

It's hanging a bit above the top of the screen, which i was told, did not matter!

But i dont know how to correctly set the image position with the pana, so it fits the screen as it should? There seems to be "missing" a bit of the i afe in the upper left, and right corner. I did try to use keystone (you hate keystone, right?)

Also zoomed the picture so it went a couple of inches out of the screen, and then corrected using v-position and h-position, and a bit of keystone... Still not perfect though!

Is there a better way to get the picture right??

- René, Denmark.

Did you use the joystick on the front of the projector, behind the cover next to the lens?
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Hi all,

Long time reader, first time poster. Has anyone ever tried 3D mode on a projection that is greater than 200" diagonally across? The manual for the AE8000U only states that 3D mode works in nine set sizes with the largest being 200" diagonally across. I am trying to get a 3D projection that is 285" diagonally across. I was assuming that 3D projection would be the same as 2D projection but apparently not according to the manual.

Thanks!
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Hi all,

Long time reader, first time poster. Has anyone ever tried 3D mode on a projection that is greater than 200" diagonally across? The manual for the AE8000U only states that 3D mode works in nine set sizes with the largest being 200" diagonally across. I am trying to get a 3D projection that is 285" diagonally across. I was assuming that 3D projection would be the same as 2D projection but apparently not according to the manual.

Thanks!
So, what exactly is the problem? Have u actually tried it, or are u freaking out over a spec in a manual ahead of time? That 3d projection size setting helps the projector with its parralax settings... Obviously a 285 inch screen is extremely out of the "norm" for a 3d screen size. Set it for the max and see what it does on 3d. If by chance it is not good, then you may have to zoom down a bit for 3d viewing...Or you could try making adjustments in the 3d Viewing Monitor for your large screen...
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So, what exactly is the problem? Have u actually tried it, or are u freaking out over a spec in a manual ahead of time? That 3d projection size setting helps the projector with its parralax settings... Obviously a 285 inch screen is extremely out of the "norm" for a 3d screen size. Set it for the max and see what it does on 3d. If by chance it is not good, then you may have to zoom down a bit for 3d viewing...Or you could try making adjustments in the 3d Viewing Monitor for your large screen...

Thanks deano. The projector is planned for an art installation where there will be stations to view a 3D image projected upon a wall that requires a 285" diagonal projection properly fill the wall. The AE8000U worked flawlessly with a 2D projection at that size. I have not tried the 3D mode at that size, which is why I am asking if anyone has tried such large 3D projections with the AE8000U before. I'm trying to get a sense of what is possible and what sort of complications may arise going beyond the 200" max, so that I may find another solution or inform the artist that it is not possible at all. Currently I am unable to test things out as the projection space is undergoing extensive renovation.

On that note, has anyone run into hiccups with the 200" 3D projection?
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The projector will work fine in 3D at that size.
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The projector is planned for an art installation where there will be stations to view a 3D image projected upon a wall that requires a 285" diagonal projection properly fill the wall. ?
Projected onto a wall, not a high gain screen, I think the image will be too dim for 3D at that size where each eye only gets half of the total light output.
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Hey everyone, has anyone mounted this projector on the ceiling or otherwise needed to use an extension power cable in order to plug in the projector? I'm doing this soon and I'm trying to figure out if there are specific requirements of a potential extension power cable. I was also wondering if Panasonic or a 3rd party manufactured a longer power cable so as to not need to use an extension. Thanks!

Edit: Could I just use something like this http://www.homedepot.com/p/HDX-50-ft...2602/100661433

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I used mine with a 30' extension cord for 5 months. No issues

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I used mine with a 30' extension cord for 5 months. No issues
Do you remember if the extension cord needed to be a certain gauge or anything?
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Do you remember if the extension cord needed to be a certain gauge or anything?
No idea. I just grabbed one I use for Christmas lights
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I think you'd be hard pressed to find a three prong extension cord that wasn't thick enough to carry the 310 watts of needed AC power the 8000 uses, but as long as the maker claims greater than 310 watts, you should be OK.


That Home Depot one for instance seems fine:
"Maximum 1,625-Watt"

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I think you'd be hard pressed to find a three prong extension cord that wasn't thick enough to carry the 310 watts of needed AC power the 8000 uses, but as long as the maker claims greater than 310 watts, you should be OK.


That Home Depot one for instance seems fine:
"Maximum 1,625-Watt"
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