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post #2881 of 3548 Old 01-12-2014, 08:58 PM
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I need a short power cord (1-2 feet) since I'm going straight from the projector to the ceiling outlet. Will any power cord with same voltage and gauge as the one in the box be okay?
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I am about to buy all the gear for my dedicated media room and the panny 8k had been my projector of choice. Got mislead by some of the diagrams in the manuals and thought I hade more lens shift range than available. A thorough read of documents leads me to believe that top screen edge can be roughly 1/2 a screen height below center of lens by using lens shift. That seems logical too based on the quoted 2.9 image height adjustability.

Does anyone concur with that assessment? I'm seeing quotes of 5-8" here, which seems really low compared to what I think it should be.

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Russ

To use the Zoom and expand a 16:9 to a 2.35 screen the center of lens can be no higher then the top of the screen. Some have gotten away with being an 1" or 2 higher but not much. You can go higher if you tip the projector down and use keystone adjustment to fix the distortion cause by tilting the project, this is usually a last resort though as it can degrade the image quality.
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Weird issue. It seems like the bottom half and the top half of the image can't both be focused properly at the same time. When I properly focus so the bottom is crisp, the top goes out of focus. And vice versa.

Has anyone seen anything like this? I'm using a spandex AT screen.

I'm borrowing a friend's BR Disney WOW disc this week to see if that fixes anything somehow.

Sounds like you projector is either tipped up or down a little bit, it is not square to the screen.
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Just got mine. Unfortunately it has rather terrible misconvergence:

mp4w.jpg

What do you think? If I had bought this pj for movies I might be able to live with it, but since I bought it for general computer use, such as web development and programming, it's rather unacceptable as I can't see the real color of text. Text just appears like super colorful candy.

The misalignment seems to be about 2,5pixels. My last pj was an ae3000 which had very decent alignment (slightly less than 1 pixel).

I was gonna say, that can't be a 2.5 pixel misalignment. That text is a single pixel thick and if the panels were more than 1 pixel out of alignment then how would they all be aligning correctly to produce a 1 pixel thick black line? If you had more than 1 pixel misalignment then the line would not be black and there would be a colored ghost-line next to the actual line of whatever color the misaligned panel was.

Looks like fraction of a pixel misalignment since you can just see some color fringing sticking out of the solid black pixel lines.

This is what it looks like when the red panel for example is 1 pixel too low and to the right.
http://mynikonphotos.com/projector/hc5500.jpg
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I just got mine. It's a huge upgrade in brightness and picture quality from a 4000U imho. However, I'm having a few issues while playing 3D movies. By far the worst problem is I'm getting some ghosting/crosstalk on images that are meant to appear very close to you. This is only a few times per movie usually, but when it happens it spoils the 3D experience for me.

The basics of my system are: 8000U projector, Onkyo TX-NR3010 receiver, Oppo BDP-103 blu ray player, a custom built whitebox HTPC, plus all high speed HDMI cables.

I've tried several different HDMI cables and even ran the blu ray directly to the projector, and the problem never ceases or improves. It's the same with movies played from both my HTPC and blu ray player. I've paused a frame where it seemed fairly bad and played with every single setting on the projector, and nothing seems to help.

I'm to the point where I feel it's one of 3 things: I have a misaligned or faulty projector, this is as good as this projector is capable of, or there is some setting I am unaware of or cannot find.

If anyone has any advice whatsoever, I'd love to hear from you.
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Sounds like you projector is either tipped up or down a little bit, it is not square to the screen.

That makes perfect sense. Thanks!

I'll check it when I get home.
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As someone who has both worked on 3d films, 3d conversions, and watched many 3d films on this projector, basically you just have to deal with it. If it is only certain scenes, chances are it has more to do with that films conversion to 3d than your projector. It is something of an inexact (read: extremely complicated) science, and not everybody gets it right for all films and projectors. For what its worth the ps3 is so far the best 3d bluray player i have used. You may also want to try new 3d glasses. Last thing is, are you sure you have tried changing convergence settings in the 3d submenu?

Certain films are flawless all the way through, and others are nearly unwatchable. And it changes for everyones setup. Theres honestly not much you can do. Even much more expensive projectors can have this issue; you can even see it in theatres occasionally. Just enjoy what youve got.
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I need a short power cord (1-2 feet) since I'm going straight from the projector to the ceiling outlet. Will any power cord with same voltage and gauge as the one in the box be okay?

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Monoprice has 1 foot replacement power cords - for all of $0.88!

http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=102&cp_id=10228&cs_id=1022801&p_id=5277&seq=1&format=2

This is 18 AWG, you can also get 16 AWG or 14 AWG

I've been using the 18 AWG version since last January and has worked fine.
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fstopdigital, there is no setting called "convergence", so I am a bit unsure of what you are speaking of. I'm sure they are calling it something other than what you are. However I have gone through all the settings, especially 3D settings, multiple times. As I've stated before, nothing has even slightly improved this problem.
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I need a short power cord (1-2 feet) since I'm going straight from the projector to the ceiling outlet. W

Yes.ill any power cord with same voltage and gauge as the one in the box be okay?

Yes.
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I think you were referring to "3d viewing monitor" to set the amount of parallax. With this I can improve the quality of distant images, but at the expense of quality of other depths. Additionally I'd like to add that the problem seems to be in the left eye image. When this is happening and I close my right eye, I see the double blurry image. If I reverse it and close my left eye, the right eye image is clear.
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Can anyone suggest 3D glasses that work with the 8000 that don't cost $80 per pair?

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Can anyone suggest 3D glasses that work with the 8000 that don't cost $80 per pair?

 

these work great so far. a bit bigger than the panasonic ones but my woman likes them better. $30 each

 

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006PC6U7O/ref=oh_details_o05_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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Can anyone suggest 3D glasses that work with the 8000 that don't cost $80 per pair?


Not the sexiest 3D glasses on earth, but they do work with the Panny.


PS3 3D Glasses


Are they ugly you said? Look at the price again!

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You can purchase Playstation 3 glasses from Amazon for $25. They are bulky and heavier but they work well if you want cheap. I have two pairs out of my 8 pairs of glasses. Good for when you have a bunch of kids over.

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Thanks, I'll try the PS3 glasses out.
I noticed the expand Glasses say full 1080P to both eyes and the PS3 glasses seem to confirm they "does not suffer resolution loss of passive 3D". I've never heard of this and assumed all displays dropped to 720 when viewing 3D.

I think I've addressed the focus issue. I'll need a bit more time switching between sources but I'm pretty sure that's the issue.
That said I went from the satellite to a Blu ray last night and didn't notice a difference in detail.
Anyone know of a calibrator in Northern Alberta or Northern B.C.?

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Should say 720p per eye

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Advantage of Active Shutter 3D Glasses:

The 3D image resolution is the same as the 2D image displayed on the same television. This is because the left and right eye images are displayed in a sequential fashion, in synch with TV or projector's screen refresh rate and the opening and closing of the LCD shutters in the glasses. The ps3 glasses should be 1080p.

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Got mine last week. This was an upgrade from my trusted PT AE 900. 

Connected it to my HTPC using the same 15m HDMI cable from my AE 900. The HTPC showed panasonic projector, but the 8000 was searching for a signal, with no joy. Bought a 7m 2160p cable, worked with no issues.

 

Really impressed with the 2d and 3d performance. The .mkv 3D formats are not automatically recognised as 3d signals, but works flawlessly with manual selection.

 

I used a mount from germany via ebay. Excellent quality and cheap as chips.

I am attaching a photo of the mount.Processed By eBay with ImageMagick, z1.1.0. ||B2

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Just purchased this projector. What kind of quality control issues should I be looking for specific to this model? Or any suggestions on testing a new PJ in general for any manufacturer defects etc would be appreciated. Thanks.
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Can anyone suggest 3D glasses that work with the 8000 that don't cost $80 per pair?
I really like the Xpand YOUniversal glasses. They work great, are light and come in three sizes. Recently the prices have gone up a bit though. They can also be set up via a computer and the firmware can be updated.

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I am not at all interested in 3D. With that being said, should I still consider this projector or should I go with the PT-AR100u?
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If I'm using the Disney calibration disc, which preset should I set the projector on? Rec709? Is this correct or should I be using cinema 1 or cinema 2?
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You should use it to calibrate all the preset's you are likely to use, calibrate one then move on to the next.
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Hi all am just wondering if the TY-EW3D4MU 3D glasses are compatible with the projector. I am guessing not, but just wanted to check.
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No that is RF for 2012 and newer TV you want IR EW3D3MU
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We had to move our screen to 8' last night (prepping the new room behind it).
PJ at 8', MLP at 7 '= 50" diagonal for best IQ.
Its gong to be a long 2 weeks.
On the good side I didn't find the XD screen to be too much of a distraction. Certainly good enough for gaming while I wait.

It would take some work but I might end of moving my equipment shelf back the 4' that I can move it to regain some of the size.
50" seems small now.

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It's been a long time since I have posted in this thread just because I've been so happy with my 8000 since I purchased it a long time ago.

That said, I recently got the Disney WOW calibration set on Amazon when it was on sale for $18 and I started messing around with it this past weekend.

Now prior to this, I pretty much had my settings factory default out of the box. I only used 3 modes - Gaming mode (for playing games), REC709 for movie/TV watching, and Dynamic for 3D bluray watching (just to get the brighter picture).

My question is, now that I've got this calibration disc, which mode is best to calibrate for movies/TV? Obviously I'm going to still use Gaming mode to play games on, but for movies, should I try out calibrating the Cinema mode with the WOW disc or should I just stick to using the REC709 mode? I only used the REC709 mode prior because with minimal settings changes, I liked that picture the best.
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No that is RF for 2012 and newer TV you want IR EW3D3MU
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