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NMJack 10-04-2012 04:46 PM

The fun has begun. Received mine today and have it set up and running. My fourth projector and first experience with home 3D. Overall, I am delighted with this unit.

I am amazed at how good the 3D looks. I'm projecting 19' to a 140" Carada Criterion screen with the 1.4 gain brilliant white. Room is totally dark with dark walls, ceiling and carpet. The projector is very bright in normal 2D, and looked good in the half hour or so of 3D I watched. I need to buy a broader sample of 3D blu-rays and plan to do so this weekend. I'm using the Panasonic glasses and they seem to work flawlessly. Also, as per many other reports, that joystick lens shift is not great. Fortunately, and contrary to what I have been told, my 8000 seems to have a center detent setting, which eliminates any challenges for me. My PJ is on a shelf, with the lens centered top to bottom and side to side on the screen, so I just lock it in the center detent setting and ignore it. Fine tuning is with the PJ legs and slight sideways rotation of the projecter. I'll report more as I have a chance to spend more time with it over the next several days. cool.gif

ragged 10-04-2012 05:30 PM

Aaargh! Where are the unboxing picks!! LOL! Congrats man.

stummala 10-05-2012 01:07 AM

Does this projector still have the annoying "PROCESSING IMAGE" message while the lens memory is in use? My PTAE4000U did that.

Dizzyboy 10-05-2012 02:46 AM

How do you find the sharpness to be? Also, are you seeing any weird "dynamic contrast" shenanigans with the iris (pulsing brightness up / down upon the start of certain shots)?

dantab 10-05-2012 03:40 AM

I'll get my AT6000 in about 4 hours... I can not wait!

NMJack 10-05-2012 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by stummala View Post

Does this projector still have the annoying "PROCESSING IMAGE" message while the lens memory is in use? My PTAE4000U did that.

I read that there is now an option to turn the message off, and I did see it in one of the on screen menus. I don't use lens memory in my setup, so somebody else will have to verify.

JoeBoy73 10-05-2012 10:22 AM

Wow...really glad you like it so far! Question, how does it handle motion? I'm really sensative to motion blur and it's one of the reasons I decided to go with DLP....the only problem with that is I need lumens and I'm going with a large 2.35 screen.

NMJack 10-05-2012 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Dizzyboy View Post

How do you find the sharpness to be? Also, are you seeing any weird "dynamic contrast" shenanigans with the iris (pulsing brightness up / down upon the start of certain shots)?

At first, with some high def broadcasts, I was a bit concerned, but after watching Thursday night football I think it was just the cable source material on the earlier shows. I've watched an entire 3D movie and the football game and am very pleased with the overall performance. This thing is a light cannon, and I have it on ECO not for lamp conservation or fan noise, but because of the brightness. I haven't tried the various display options yet, and just have it on "normal" for now. I haven't seen any pulsating brightness or other anomalies. I'm used to the AE2000, so that's my point of reference.

NMJack 10-05-2012 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeBoy73 View Post

Wow...really glad you like it so far! Question, how does it handle motion? I'm really sensative to motion blur and it's one of the reasons I decided to go with DLP....the only problem with that is I need lumens and I'm going with a large 2.35 screen.

I watched Thursday Night Football (yes, the Cardinals are really NOT a top team) with Frame Creation in Mode 3, which is the highest amount of frame interpolation. Everything looked real good. Unfortunately, this is my first display with FI, so I don't really know what is good or bad. Watching a network TV show (Neighbors) with it in Mode 3 gave that same "looks clear and smooth, but also like a cheap video based TV soap opera" effect that people talk about.

tklein2 10-05-2012 10:42 AM

Hello. It's been a long time since I've posted. I just received my ae8000 yesterday! I will potentially be replacing my JVC DLA-RS40 ( X3 is the same) for the following reasons:
*Note: I've yet to watch 3D on the JVC as I just received the emitter and glasses.

1. brightness on the JVC for 3D and my new 120 inch screen may be an issue
2. reviews and forums have complained that there are crosstalk issues with the JVC and no adjustments to fix it
3. forums have complained that the JVC bulbs are losing their brightness prematurely (haven't notice this yet with 650 hours)
4. the ae8000 is supposed to have smoother motion
5. the ae8000 has a built in 3D emitter
6. the ae8000 has a rec709 setting
7. the ae8000 has 2D to 3D conversion, although I only plan on using it for gaming (my son does anyway)
8. the ae8000 has, in theory, a much longer bulb life
9. I'm an audio/video geek/fool :-)

I might miss:
1. the JVC's great 2D picture with it's great native contrast

Unfortunately, I will most likely not do an apples to apples test using the 120 inch screen because I won't receive that until Wednesday of next week. :-(. This weekend I plan to compare the 2 projectors with my existing 106 inch SI Gamma 1.1 gain screen in an almost completely darkened environment. The test will involve a 3D blu-ray version of the Avengers, being played on a Panasonic 210 blu-ray player and a pair xpand x103 3D glasses. If after watching both projectors and the JVC is holding it's own in the 3D viewing aspect, then maybe I'll go through the trouble of mounting it again when I install the 120 inch screen. More to come....

Ranger 10-05-2012 11:41 AM

How is the Detail Clarity Processor 4 ? Is it similar to the Darbee ?

Dizzyboy 10-05-2012 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by NMJack View Post

At first, with some high def broadcasts, I was a bit concerned, but after watching Thursday night football I think it was just the cable source material on the earlier shows. I've watched an entire 3D movie and the football game and am very pleased with the overall performance. This thing is a light cannon, and I have it on ECO not for lamp conservation or fan noise, but because of the brightness. I haven't tried the various display options yet, and just have it on "normal" for now. I haven't seen any pulsating brightness or other anomalies. I'm used to the AE2000, so that's my point of reference.

You have idea how glad I am to hear this! Specifically that you're a former AE2000 owner. That's my current projector and it's what I compare everything against. I'd actually given up trying to get a good 3D capable pj in 2012, thinking that it was clear the industry would need at least another year to get things to a solid level fo quality, but it's starting to sound like the 8000 may be the machine I'd originally hoped it would be! Do you find it's sharpness / detail to be at least on the level of what you have with your 2000? I've read that the 7000 was softer, for some weird reason.

justhanging 10-05-2012 02:45 PM

Receive mine today. Really bright. This is just with blinds drawn in bright daylight. Focus is really sharp. Lucked out on convergence. Panels are alined perfectly. Just perfect picture right out of the box.

NMJack 10-06-2012 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by justhanging View Post

Receive mine today. Really bright. This is just with blinds drawn in bright daylight. Focus is really sharp. Lucked out on convergence. Panels are alined perfectly. Just perfect picture right out of the box.

Convergence on mine looks to be perfect as well, however I've never had an issue with my previous Panasonic projectors.

Crispotron 10-06-2012 01:12 PM

Received mine a few days ago. Aside from the disappointment of finding out that I had to send away for the 3D glasses (with 6-8 week wait time), I'm seriously loving this projector so far.

In a fit of impatience, I took a gamble and picked up some Sony PS3 3D glasses and... they work!!

I have no frame of reference since this is my first 3D projector but as soon as I get the Panasonic glasses, I'll do a proper comparison. So far I'd say the Sony's are fairly decent but I haven't done a proper test in a dark room through a full film. My only comparison point is seeing 3D films in the theater.

I'm throwing about 14 feet on a 92" screen. Not sure about the gain as I bought it years ago as a total n00b. My old projector was a Panny PT-AX200e

I did notice some of the dreaded soap-opera effect but then I switched modes and it was fine. I don't recall which modes but I'll try and post more details when I have a minute.

lawman2 10-06-2012 02:21 PM

Got mine on Thursday had to run to HHGreg to get a pair of glasses... 3d is crazy good.. Got the imax movies and avenger. Using a 100 " at 13 feet in totaly dark room... Need to have eco mode on for 2d its too bright ... 3d on 100 from 13 is great brightness is fine..
I had a mitsubishi hc 3000 dlp before ... No comparison colors pop.. I say do it ...

JoeBoy73 10-06-2012 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by lawman2 View Post

Got mine on Thursday had to run to HHGreg to get a pair of glasses... 3d is crazy good.. Got the imax movies and avenger. Using a 100 " at 13 feet in totaly dark room... Need to have eco mode on for 2d its too bright ... 3d on 100 from 13 is great brightness is fine..
I had a mitsubishi hc 3000 dlp before ... No comparison colors pop.. I say do it ...
WOW! More pop than DLP? That's really saying a lot! It appears Panasonic may have got this one right...a lot of positive reviews from users!

matrix16888 10-07-2012 03:56 AM

hi guys, congratulations on your new purchases, sounds exciting!

I'm more interested in AE8K's 3D performance, especially compare to DLP projectors like Benq W7000, Optoma HD33, etc, is AE8K free of crosstalk, ghosting and flickering now? Many thanks!

NMJack 10-07-2012 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by matrix16888 View Post

hi guys, congratulations on your new purchases, sounds exciting!
I'm more interested in AE8K's 3D performance, especially compare to DLP projectors like Benq W7000, Optoma HD33, etc, is AE8K free of crosstalk, ghosting and flickering now? Many thanks!

I'm new to home 3D, so my eyes may not yet be trained to spot defects. That said, I've watched three entire 3D movies on my AE8000 and have not seen anything resembling the screen caps of ghosting I've seen posted. I'm not sure what crosstalk looks like either, but I haven't seen any problems of any kind.

zombie10k 10-07-2012 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by matrix16888 View Post


I'm more interested in AE8K's 3D performance, especially compare to DLP projectors like Benq W7000, Optoma HD33, etc, is AE8K free of crosstalk, ghosting and flickering now? Many thanks!

If any of the 8000 owners can play back a 3D ISO (HTPC or 3D network media player), I have a test disk that shows various patterns used to detect 3D ghosting. it's a small download.

if interested, send me a PM and I'll send it to you. Ideally, someone would post 'through the glasses' photos so we can see how it performs this year.

Yusuf.0088 10-08-2012 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by zombie10k View Post

If any of the 8000 owners can play back a 3D ISO (HTPC or 3D network media player), I have a test disk that shows various patterns used to detect 3D ghosting. it's a small download.
if interested, send me a PM and I'll send it to you. Ideally, someone would post 'through the glasses' photos so we can see how it performs this year.

If any owner is going to make ghosting test, please, make it not only in "cinema" mode, but also in high brightness mode - "normal" and "dynamic" with normal lamp mode.

dukedallas2005 10-09-2012 05:07 AM

Just unpacked this puppy last night after the kids and wife went to bed. I only had about an hour to do a full setup and tinker with it. I am coming from a AE7000, and immediately I noticed the brightness is MUCH improved YES this thing is a light cannon! After spending about 10 mins with connectionS and placing it on my rear shelf in a 100% light controled moive room I found the 3D VERY bright. With my AE7000 I always ran it on "Dynamic" mode setting for 3D for BETTER brightness but this thing a wonderful in "Normal" mode. Like I said i only had about an hour to play with the projector last night, but I'll report back more differences and findings soon particularly the contrast and colors. From my quick initial viewing it is dazzling! This is now my 5th projector. I've had Sony VPL50, Sanyo,Panny 4000,7000 and now the 8000 I try not to get too attached to hardware.

(I PAT MYSELF ON THE BACK FOR TAKING THE SHELF APPROACH 5 YEAR AGO WHEN SETTING UP MY THEATER YOU CANNOT IMAGINE HOW EASY IT IS TO JUST PLACE A PROJECTOR ON A SHELF PLUG N PLAY UP AND RUNNING IN 5 MINS.)

Yusuf.0088 10-09-2012 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by dukedallas2005 View Post

Just unpacked this puppy last night after the kids and wife went to bed. I only had about an hour to do a full setup and tinker with it. I am coming from a AE7000, and immediately I noticed the brightness is MUCH improved YES this thing is a light cannon! After spending about 10 mins with connectionS and placing it on my rear shelf in a 100% light controled moive room I found the 3D VERY bright. With my AE7000 I always ran it on "Dynamic" mode setting for 3D for BETTER brightness but this thing a wonderful in "Normal" mode. Like I said i only had about an hour to play with the projector last night, but I'll report back more differences and findings soon.
(I PAT MYSELF ON THE BACK FOR TAKING THE SHELF APPROACH 5 YEAR AGO WHEN SETTING UP MY THEATER YOU CANNOT IMAGINE HOW EASY IT IS TO JUST PLACE A PROJECTOR ON A SHELF PLUG N PLAY UP AND RUNNING IN 5 MINS.)
What is your screen diagonal and gain?

fcaico 10-09-2012 07:35 AM

Yeah I'm curious as well. I am putting in a 120" wide 2.35:1 (1.2 gain) screen and plan on putting my 8000 at about 15' 2" back.
I havent gotten my screen yet, so I can't really comment on brightness yet.

dukedallas2005 10-09-2012 09:49 AM

Im about 17 feet back, using a Stewart StudioTek 130 96"x54" (110" diagonal), i believe its 1.3 gain...believe me you guys will notice the brightness difference immediately if youve owned a AE7000

User7007 10-09-2012 11:27 AM

Commenting on the last post by fcaico, I am curious what 120" screen you are going with?

I am in the same boat, want to purchase the 8000u and want a reasonable starter 120" 2.35:1 screen. I see some screens out there but not sure if I am really going to notice a difference between 1.1 Gain vs 1.5 gain white screen etc.

Granted these are not Stewart Screens or Carada for that matter, but want to know if I am REALLY going to notice a difference in a room that is a dark as a cave during the day and night with this new Panasonic 2400 lumen 500,000:1 Contrast ratio projector?

For example:

Elitescreen Cinema 235 Series: Approx: $549 in price

2.35: 1 aspect ratio for Home Theater experience
CineWhite 1.1 gain screen material with full tension uniformity and black backing
160° viewing angle with wide diffusion uniformity
Anodized black aluminum 2.36" frame thickness

Compared to:

Focupix 2.35:1 120" Screen: Approx: $300 in price

45 angle degree cut frame design, built with top quality aluminum frame.
Black velvet frame offers for optimal light absorbing capability
1.5 high gain, matte white smooth vinyl surface, special light-proof fabric treatment
Super-tension design ensures perfectly flat screen surface

Thanks AVSers!

dukefame56 10-09-2012 11:31 AM

Also currently a 7000 owner, looking into the 8K.
You mention the brightness difference between the 7K and 8K is considerable.
that's great.
Hows the 3D?
Is the ghosting any improved from the 7K.
Cause' the 7K was pretty bad!

fcaico 10-09-2012 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by User7007 View Post

Commenting on the last post by fcaico, I am curious what 120" screen you are going with?
I am in the same boat, want to purchase the 8000u and want a reasonable starter 120" 2.25:1 screen. I see some screens out there but not sure if I am really going to notice a difference between 1.1 Gain vs 1.5 gain white screen etc.
Granted these are not Stewart Screens or Carada for that matter, but want to know if I am REALLY going to notice a difference in a room that is a dark as a cave during the day and night with this new Panasonic 2400 lumen 500,000:1 Contrast rario projector?

This is my first screen, and I haven't received it yet so I can't tell you how good it is but...

I ordered it from Jamestown HT. Its a 120" wide 2.35:1 AT screen made by them using Steward Cinestage XD material.

dukedallas2005 10-09-2012 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by dukefame56 View Post

Also currently a 7000 owner, looking into the 8K.
You mention the brightness difference between the 7K and 8K is considerable.
that's great.
Hows the 3D?
Is the ghosting any improved from the 7K.
Cause' the 7K was pretty bad!

Like I said I havent had much time to really sit down and test the 3D objectively. I watched about a half hour of Legends of Flight 3D didnt really notice ghosting, now i havent touched any setting at all basically right out of the box ...Yes brighter and Colors definately improved in my eyes. The unit is pretty much EXACTLY the 7000 physically right down to how it was packed LOL. Whether it is worth selling your 7000 for the 8000 and adding money is a BIG question, I cant answer that yet. depends what you can get for the 7000

I just sent out the offer for 2 Free pairs of 3D glasses from Panny...just a note to myself to see how long it takes to fulfill. 10-9-12

Dizzyboy 10-09-2012 01:17 PM

How would you say the colour and brightness compare to what you'd see on a plasma display with 3D materials?


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