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Depends what you use them for, they are ok for 2d movies, but it sounds like the hc8000 was just an hc4000 with an IRIS and that the hc8000 had even lower native on/off than the hc4000. So I doubt these look much better than a Benq w1070, unless the IRIS on the hc8000 was updated. The w1070 had sharper optics and a brighter picture, and probably at 50% to 75% of the native on/off of the Mits (maybe even closer). The problem is the Mits aren't that good in 3D, not very bright and also some other issues.
I'd say the hc8000 is worth $800 to $1,600 depending what you value in the image. The Mits hc4000 is worth about $800 to $1200.
The Mits hc4000 is still the best sub-$1500 2D image for dark movies in DLP's IMO if you are not rainbow sensitive, but the lens doesn't have uniform focus, but if you focus it 1/3rd from the edge and just use it for movies, you cannot really notice it much (if at all). That said, if I had to choose, I would buy the w1070 or w7000 over the Mits, because I use my DLP's in HTPC, and the Benq's easily beat the Mits in that area. Plus the Benq's have much less RBE than the Mits do at the same fL.
The hc4000 can really do 3,500:1 to 3,800:1 calibrated on/off at max throw, this is higher than the Runco's LS-5 native on/off. Cine4 measured the Mits hc4000 at 4,500:1 on/off, which was an off-measurement, but none-the-less, there is no question it was the highest Native on/off DC3 ever made that I know of. I measured the contrast of the w1070 around 1500:1 on/off (2000+ with the dimmer, but you can't even hardly see a difference by eye), but in some modes I only got just above 1000:1. The native on/off of the w1070 is only slightly better than the Benq w7000.
I think Mitsubishi's problem with their next GEN of DLP's was several fatal engineering mistakes. They tried to make a One-Size fits all projector and went all over the map. They wanted to be like the Sharp 20k and get 10,000:1 on/off (but Mits failed to even get the same on/off as their previous hc4000 unit).
Very sad, they had the correct idea, but they just made some kind of engineering mistake and got it wrong (who knows exactly what mistake, but something with DMD coatings and the way the lens was setup).
Then they still didn't even get the focus uniformity / sharpness issues of the past resolved either. The hc4000 had respectable sharpness for a sub-$1500 projector in its day (during the hc4000's hay day there really wasn't a lot of sharp projectors other than the Benq w6000 or high-end ones).
BUT, if Mits wanted to compete in the +$2000 arena, they needed a better lens, a better DI, and better native on/off.