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Since you have two rooms, have you thought about a passive 3D setup?

Yes, and I had everything ready to go -- 2 Optoma boxes, one for left eye and one for right eye, two projectors meticulously aligned, filters for two projectors and passive glasses. My Oppo let me down -- I thought it would output 3D at the same time from each of its two HDMI outs. Apparently it won't. I've upgraded my HTPC and may give it another try.
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You need to take your glasses off and see the light.smile.gifsmile.gif

With the brightness of the HP screen for 3D I sometimes forget to take the glasses off if I check out something in 2D -- about 5 minutes in I suddenly remember that I'm not watching 3D any longer and I don't need the glasses -- duh!
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Yes, and I had everything ready to go -- 2 Optoma boxes, one for left eye and one for right eye, two projectors meticulously aligned, filters for two projectors and passive glasses. My Oppo let me down -- I thought it would output 3D at the same time from each of its two HDMI outs. Apparently it won't. I've upgraded my HTPC and may give it another try.

What two projectors did you have? I would love to do it if I could figure out how it would work. I would do two DP LED projectors. DC4 .95 would look amazing I bet. They are going around used kind of cheap for the performance
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What are the best 3D glasses and emitter for a JVC 4810? Please tell me it's some cheap brand...

Wrote that already in another thread. I bought the ones from CurtPalme (Bitcauldron I think) and am very happy with them!


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I was looking at the Curt Palme ones, good to hear. I forgot to mention I am interested in RF only.
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I was looking at the Curt Palme ones, good to hear. I forgot to mention I am interested in RF only.

I'm not sure about the emitter, but I think the cheap Samsung 3D RF glasses work with the newer JVC projectors. I like those glasses -- very light weight and inexpensive.

Try this thread at post #746.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1424180/jvc-dla-rs48-dla-x55-projector-with-3d-rf-glasses-and-e-shift-cedia-2012/720
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What two projectors did you have? I would love to do it if I could figure out how it would work. I would do two DP LED projectors. DC4 .95 would look amazing I bet. They are going around used kind of cheap for the performance

I piggy backed my Epson 7500 onto my Epson 9500, attached the filters and was ready to go, but for …..

The problem with using two projectors will be convergence. I was able to get really good convergence, but it wasn't as good as a single chip DLP. Also the filters plus the passive glasses will significantly cut light output to the screen. I haven't got my hopes up that the image will be very bright -- even with the HP screen.
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I'm not sure about the emitter, but I think the cheap Samsung 3D RF glasses work with the newer JVC projectors. I like those glasses -- very light weight and inexpensive.

Try this thread at post #746.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1424180/jvc-dla-rs48-dla-x55-projector-with-3d-rf-glasses-and-e-shift-cedia-2012/720

Thanks. Is there any reason to get the JVC emitter rather than one of the more inexpensive ones? For example, the Optoma one?

edit: Answered my own question, the Samsung glasses are not compatible with the Optoma emitter. I'm not sure what third-party emitter works with the Samsungs.

So the question is, would I be better off spending $90 for JVC emitter and then $40 for a couple pairs of Samsung glasses, or spending the same $130 on the Estar emitter and two pairs of Estar glasses?
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RS57 calibration first look

Projector has 15 hours, all low lamp so far. This is impressive considering the PITA the RS55 is to calibrate. The RS4810/X55 saturation did not track this well, so this is definitely an improvement.

Picture mode -> User 1

Color profile -> Custom 1 -> CM = on, magenta brightness -2

Color temp -> Custom 1 / 6500

Gain red -23, Gain green -22

Offset red -1, offset green -2


Gamma -> Custom 1 - 2.2, no other changes IRIS = OFF

Greyscale -

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RS57-greyscale-2.jpg

Gamma -


RS57-gamma-1.jpg

Chromaticity / Luminance -

RS57-chromacity-5.jpg

RS57-lumanence-1.jpg

Saturation tracking -



RS57-chromacity-1.jpg

RS57-chromacity-2.jpg

RS57-chromacity-3.jpg

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Nice. Were you unable to turn down blue luminance?
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Only 23 cd/mq on a Da-Lite HP 2.8 ????????




PS: Can you measure the Adobe-rgb native gamut please ?
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Only 23 cd/mq on a Da-Lite HP 2.8 ????????




PS: Can you measure the Adobe-rgb native gamut please ?

Hopefully it's 23 fL smile.gif
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Hopefully it's 23 fL smile.gif


Lol I was just realizing that biggrin.gif
Sorry but we didn't use much Ftl in Europe.
23,6 ftl are 81 cd/m2 but on a an HP 142" 2.8 gain screen (I have own one in the past and it is more like a 3.0 gain in reality).
That means about 470 lumens in my calculations.
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Hey wait !
I read 23,38 cd/m2 under WHITE eek.gif




Can't be that low on a gain 3.0 screen even if it's a 142" and lamp is low ...
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Thanks. Is there any reason to get the JVC emitter rather than one of the more inexpensive ones? For example, the Optoma one?

edit: Answered my own question, the Samsung glasses are not compatible with the Optoma emitter. I'm not sure what third-party emitter works with the Samsungs.

So the question is, would I be better off spending $90 for JVC emitter and then $40 for a couple pairs of Samsung glasses, or spending the same $130 on the Estar emitter and two pairs of Estar glasses?

Go check out the Samsung glasses at Best Buy to see if you like them. If you do and you need more than two then it's more economical to buy the JVC emitter and the Samsung glasses (if you buy four pairs for example).
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Go check out the Samsung glasses at Best Buy to see if you like them. If you do and you need more than two then it's more economical to buy the JVC emitter and the Samsung glasses (if you buy four pairs for example).

Yeah, but on the other hand, someone in another thread said the Estars got rid of all the ghosting for him on his JVC (which sounds odd). I think I have to make a new thread for this rather than derailing this one any further. Thanks!
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We are going to test his bias, when I send him my VW600 to compare to his VW1000. smile.gif

How do they compare?

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yeah get on it Jason biggrin.gifsmile.gif
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How do they compare?

Well enough that I think I am going to be very happy with my 600 when Zombie10k gets done reviewing it. smile.gif

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Jason, have you used, or thought about using this lag tester method?

Does anyone else have any experience with this solution?

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that looks pretty cool as long as it's reliable. It's a pain to break out my heavy 20" CRT each time to run these tests. Price seems affordable, I would buy one and test it if they can ship to the US.


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that looks pretty cool as long as it's reliable. It's a pain to break out my heavy 20" CRT each time to run these tests. Price seems affordable, I would buy one and test it if they can ship to the US.

If they don't you can always ask a UK friend to help wink.gif

They seem to accept U.S. dollars as a currency, so it's a good sign smile.gif
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that looks pretty cool as long as it's reliable. It's a pain to break out my heavy 20" CRT each time to run these tests. Price seems affordable, I would buy one and test it if they can ship to the US.

I believe they ship to the US. I see it's sold out at the moment so you may have to send him an email...not sure if it's built-to-order or not. They do seem "affordable" though, and much easier than the CRT alternative. Displaylag.com uses one for lag testing and I've found others using them as well. Seems like the overall fastest/easiest solution available.

And if it helps you, that's a win-win for everyone. wink.gif

Here's some info from DisplayLag.

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I would buy one and test it if they can ship to the US.

Doesn't appear to be a problem for them - this is from their shipping&returns page. I've ordered a number of items from the UK, and delivery has been very good - generally the Royal Mail does a better job with delivery times than our Canada Post ... smile.gif

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The Sony 4K projectors look like a bargain compared to this.

Samsung just released a 110" UHD TV - yours for the low price of $150,000

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that screen looks small compared to my 142"...
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Do the Samsung SSG-5100GB glasses work with the VW600ES?

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Mike, several folks mentioned the Samsung glasses + Xpand 105 would work. Here is a recent discussion:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1492355/official-sony-vpl-vw500es-vw600es-4k-projector-thread/900


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Mike, several folks mentioned the Samsung glasses + Xpand 105 would work. Here is a recent discussion:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1492355/official-sony-vpl-vw500es-vw600es-4k-projector-thread/900

I knew the 105's worked and thought the Samsung would also, but did not know for sure. Not a big 3D guy, but thinking about getting enough pairs, so that the whole family can watch 3D. Thanks for the link.

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The Sony 4K projectors look like a bargain compared to this.

Samsung just released a 110" UHD TV - yours for the low price of $150,000

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that screen looks small compared to my 142"...

Of course you can watch with the lights on.
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The Sony 4K projectors look like a bargain compared to this.

Samsung just released a 110" UHD TV - yours for the low price of $150,000

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that screen looks small compared to my 142"...



Does it come with the models? tongue.gif
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