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I just measured my 1100 in high lamp, I have about 200 hours on the lamp.

Iris full = ~1720 lumens

Iris limited = ~1160 lumens

the brightest 4910 i've measured at the same throw was in the low 900 range, all @ D65
This is about the same as my friends and mine 1100 with 150- 200 hours on the lamp.

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if you have Oblivion, queue it up to 1:27:00 and pause on this scene. Keep it in auto-iris full and change the black level adjustment in the advanced setting from off -> low -> medium and let me know if you see a noticeable difference.

On my unit, there is a drastic difference between off -> medium


Zombie, I went to this scene and don't see one bit if difference when changing between OFF, LOW, MED or HIGH in the way of any artefacts.
However of course there is a large difference in the black levels between HIGH and OFF.


Im wondering if some models just don't perform as well as others?
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Seegs108,
Were you able to get a lumen output after calibration with the 260HC? Also, did you get a chance to test how well the dynamic iris functions.


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I just measured my 1100 in high lamp, I have about 200 hours on the lamp.

Iris full = ~1720 lumens

Iris limited = ~1160 lumens

the brightest 4910 i've measured at the same throw was in the low 900 range, all @ D65
1700 lumens is similar to Sony HW40es and Benq W1070, and contrast is similar to HW40, but sharpness is not.
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Dylan - thanks for the write-up, interesting stuff.

If you were going for a DLP 3-chipper alternative to the Sony (and given that I will be looking at ex-demo or used models), what would it be? I read that you ended up preferring the Runco LS10 to the Sim2 Lumis for the DI. Have you settled on the DP 260HC as your 3-chipper of choice?

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1700 lumens is similar to Sony HW40es and Benq W1070, and contrast is similar to HW40, but sharpness is not.
This is D65 calibration, neither of those projectors will come close to that output @ D65. HW40 @ D65 is in the 900-1000 lumen range at the same throw.

you will not mistake the contrast of the HW40 when comparing to the VW1100. especially with the lack of the iris.
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Yup, I think we've agreed on that one before. Can't seem to have everything.

I really enjoyed reading about your experience. That the JVC looked brighter is quite shocking to me. I don't really know the ins and outs of the Sony in terms of settings for best contrast etc, so maybe if I knew more I wouldn't have been so surprised (?)
Me too. I have an RS45 and the VW600 and that is not the case for me.

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Me too. I have an RS45 and the VW600 and that is not the case for me.
This also doesn't match what I just measured on the VW1100. In high lamp, auto-limited, I am exceeding the 4910's capabilities by over 200 lumens at the same throw.


edit: it would have been helpful if they did some basic lumen measurements to put a better perspective on the comparison. At the same hours on the lamp, I don't know why Mark's 1100 wouldn't match mine.

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These are all excellent units guys. I really don't believe in a one size fits all approach. I think the best you can do is choose your unit based on the your screen size, seating distance and content. I have however become a believer in higher resolution. (I really don't think I could move back to 1080p honestly) I can definitely see a difference in clarity.
That's interesting, since I move back and forth all the time between my VW600 and my Lumis. The resolution difference watching Blu Rays and HDTV isn't that apparent to me. Other aspects like motion handling are, although since I started using the True Cinema setting, the VW600 and Lumis are starting to look more alike than different.

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