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So what's next on the list seegs? Is it gonna be 2 pj setup for you jvc and 3 chipper?
To be honest, there's nothing I can think of that I want to check out right now. I think I'll list the 260HC and see if I get any interest in it. If not, no biggie. I wouldn't mind having a 3-chip DLP and JVC here to switch back and forth between.
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Will someone please hurry up and test 2 x JVC X500s or 700s with a Airflex5D?

Double the brightness + hopefully same black levels = uber contrast

This should be a really fun test if someone can pull it off. I double-dare anyone to try this.
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Will someone please hurry up and test 2 x JVC X500s or 700s with a Airflex5D?

Double the brightness + hopefully same black levels = uber contrast

This should be a really fun test if someone can pull it off. I double-dare anyone to try this.
Theoretically contrast will stay the same but the black level will double. Same with the brightness. Cine4home did a similar test:

http://www.cine4home.de/installation...3D_Infitec.htm

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Theoretically contrast will stay the same but the black level will double. Same with the brightness.
This should then "theoretically" make the JVC duo as bright or brighter than the Sony VW1000/1100, but have better black levels and contrast still...all for less $$$.

You can get two X500s + Airflex5D for less than $10K. Two X700s + Airflex5D for less than $15K.

This would allow the use of a much larger unity gain screen and brighter 3D.

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One downside is losing just a tad of sharpness overall compared to a single projector solution. This is what the JVC stack looks like:

One Projector:




Both in a stack:



It's hard to get 6 panels aligned.
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I think this thread points out that every projector has its strengths and weaknesses and you just have to either pick the best that suits your needs or be like Zombie and have 1 of each(wait, he has more than 1 DLP) or like Seegs, and try them all. I, myself thought I preferred a JVC image since I have owned 3(RS40, X500, X700) but after being dissatisfied with the low ANSI contrast of the JVC's I then saw the Sony 600 and a Digital Projection Cine LED 1000 DLP projector. Even though black level is not as good I prefer the higher ANSI contrast that both of these 2 projectors provide and could live with the not so great black levels over the JVC's. So, I'm currently saving for one of the 2 models listed above. It's all about what you prefer. I wouldn't argue with anyone about preferring a JVC cause I know that's what their eyes like over what I might like that is different.

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So what's next on the list seegs? Is it gonna be 2 pj setup for you jvc and 3 chipper?
I keep thinking about a dual projector setup for my family room. Have been thinking about it for a few years. Need a lot of lumens. I just have to quit spending money on my dedicated room and do something. The family room gets the hand me down stuff.

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One downside is losing just a tad of sharpness overall compared to a single projector solution. This is what the JVC stack looks like:

One Projector:




Both in a stack:



It's hard to get 6 panels aligned.
Yeah, I translated the link and read it over. Sharpness could definitely get decreased, but "if" one were to get two really good samples, then I think it would be pretty awesome. Judging from the other pictures in the link, brightness got a nice bump up.

I wish I were at a point where I could afford to switch to a ST100 screen and get another JVC X700 and the Airflex5D...and had a dedicated/blacked out room to put this setup in, cause I would totally tackle this little experiment myself.

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One downside is losing just a tad of sharpness overall compared to a single projector solution. This is what the JVC stack looks like:

One Projector:




Both in a stack:



It's hard to get 6 panels aligned.

Is that just using the projector adjustment to match up the two images? Sony showed dual stacked VW1100's at CEDIA and they looked very sharp. They did have computer software for matching up the two images.

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Never mind, I was not paying attention. I remember reading that review. Nothing but projector controls were used. You can get much better results with a processor made precisely for this. The dual stack VW1100's looked as sharp as a single VW1100.

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Mike, it looks like they did it manually. I got those images from this cine4home article:

http://www.cine4home.de/installation...5_3D-Stack.htm
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I swear this exact same conversation was had about these same Projectors on this thread before.

That's funny since I happened to watch "Edge of Tomorrow " last night on my VW600.
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That's funny since I happened to watch "Edge of Tomorrow " last night on my VW600.
Cool movie, bet it looked great on your set up, of course my blacks were better with my JVC.

I kid I kid....

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Cool movie, bet it looked great on your set up, of course my blacks were better with my JVC.

I kid I kid....

But my picture was brighter - hee hee ! These really are good times for home theater lovers when we can split hairs over such great projectors !!

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But my picture was brighter - hee hee ! These really are good times for home theater lovers when we can split hairs over such great projectors !!


I agree, there are many PJs out there I think I would be more then happy with. It's like picking ice cream or chocolate bars. My hope is that, by the time I am done building my new blacker then black pit, there will be a PJ with JVC black and Sony lumens, who makes it matters not.

By the way, my current room is 75% velvet, the new one will closer to 90%. Not sure if i want velvet floors or not.
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Is that just using the projector adjustment to match up the two images? Sony showed dual stacked VW1100's at CEDIA and they looked very sharp. They did have computer software for matching up the two images.

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Never mind, I was not paying attention. I remember reading that review. Nothing but projector controls were used. You can get much better results with a processor made precisely for this. The dual stack VW1100's looked as sharp as a single VW1100.
I seriously can't believe no one on here has tried this yet with identical JVC pjs...hmmmhmmm...cough...Zombie...

You're review could force us all to purchase dual JVC projectors and a Airflex5D or similar processor from AVS...I'm sure they wouldn't mind.
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