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I'm lucky. I can tolerate just about any type of 3D - even God-awful anaglyph - without real issues. I can watch the Epson 5030's 3D for hours. But my LGs are easiest on the eyes. The LG LCD that I use for 3D editing is utterly painless, but 3D contrast blows. LG's OLED passive 3D, however, puts all the other 3D displays I've ever owned to shame. True black, infinite contrast, silky smooth 3D - these help me overlook any other flaws with the set. The closest I came to it in terms of contrast on a projector was the JVC RS45, but the JVC's 3D sucked, and it never truly passed the hand puppet test. There was always tell-tale gray in the black. Also, if I'm dead center vertically with the OLED, it's passive 3D is the most ghost-free 3D (short of DLP) that I've ever seen. And DLP can't come within a country light year of OLED's contrast.

As a long time big screen user, I know there's no real substitute for a projector's image size, but as a new believer in the beauty of true black and true infinite contrast, it's hard for me to want to watch anything else now. It's Sophie's Choice for this tortured tech nerd.

I have had 3 different 120hz 3d gaming monitors, a LG Passive 3D tv , a Benq W7000 DLP projector and now the JVC X500 PJ. Of all of those the Benq W7000 and LG were the easiest on the eyes. My big complaint with the Benq beside contrast was the DLP link, it really sucks, for me it did. The JVC is not to bad, the link with the glasses is excellent as is the contrast. Gravity was pretty good actually, I did have to take several breaks, but the image was spectacular. But for ease on the eyes the Benq was really not to bad.

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Everyone here seems to accept the 1100 lumens calibrated figure as written in stone. Art found it was closer to 1300 lumens calibrated in high (laser )mode. I have no idea which figure is more accurate -- 1100 or 1300 calibrated lumens and I doubt anyone else at the moment does either.

As far as brightness in 3D is concerned PC had this to say:

"As is true of all 3D systems, the light that reaches your eyes is cut substantially compared to 2D. But it doesn't cut light quite as much as most projectors. Let's assume you have the LS10000 set up using the middle of the zoom on a 120" diagonal screen with 1.0 gain, you can use 3D Cinema (the dimmest 3D mode) and still get 6.2 fL actually reaching your eyes."

So what does 6.2 fL translate into using a 2.8 gain screen -- 18fL?

I doubt that the LS10000 will meet my needs but it has a combination of features that comes pretty close. As far as I can see projector technology is at least heading in the right direction.

I am still waiting for end users to get their hands on these projectors and comment on the questions being asked here. It makes me wonder if Epson is having some problems outside of supply and demand issues. Besides a few review units this projector is very conspicuous by its absence.
I think the max gain from a 2.8 gain HP is closer to 2.0. Still 12.4FL for 3D is pretty good. I still use a 2.8 gain HP in my family room setup, but talking about HP screens is kind of a mute point, since we have not been able to get HP screens for many months.

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