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Now, if the 77" LG OLED was priced within reason (which would surprise me) I'd be all over it and I doubt front projection would hold much appeal for me in comparison -- heresy I know.
To each his own and I realize the appeal of a nearly infinite contrast ratio. However, 77" would seem like a postage stamp to me since getting my 9 foot wide scope screen/set-up last year. I also think my JVC RS4810 projected to my Stewart ST100 gives a more natural, film-like image with well mastered Blu movies compared to any flat panel - even OLED.
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A little off topic. I saw a 4K demo today and a demo of a LG 1080p OLED T.V. I liked 1080p on the OLED better than 4K with the other T.V.s. (that's not to say the 4K demo wasn't good -- it was very impressive). 1080p OLED is spectacular -- I suspect 4K OLED will be really amazing although I find it hard to believe it could look much better than the 1080p set I saw today.
I have been tempted by the LG 1080p OLED TV but 2 things have stopped me. First is with the 4k OLED TV's getting ready to come out and the price sure to drop within a year or so that would make it perfect to buy for UHD blu-rays. Second is that I'm afraid if I got an OLED TV that my projector might not got as much use since I would want to watch it on the spectacular OLED TV. I've been blown away with seeing the LG OLED TV as it was incredible.

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Now, if the 77" LG OLED was priced within reason (which would surprise me) I'd be all over it and I doubt front projection would hold much appeal for me in comparison -- heresy I know.
It's priced at $24,999 USD. Priced within reason? Well that's going to be extremely dependent on your bank roll and how good you are at slipping that expense past your significant other. And if you can convince your significant other that a TV is worth $24,999, it would be really beneficial to a lot of us if you would share the line you used.

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It's priced at $24,999 USD. Priced within reason? Well that's going to be extremely dependent on your bank roll and how good you are at slipping that expense past your significant other. And if you can convince your significant other that a TV is worth $24,999, it would be really beneficial to a lot of us if you would share the line you used.
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If you can do that, you are one slick talker, even if alcohol is involved.
For real Mike! If I told my wife I was looking to spend $24,999 on anything other than a car (especially a TV), them would probably be considered fighting words, LOL!

I'd have to change my profile pic to me with a black eye.

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[QUOTE=Mr. Hatcher;32181465]It's priced at $24,999 USD. Priced within reason? Well that's going to be extremely dependent on your bank roll and how good you are at slipping that expense past your significant other. And if you can convince your significant other that a TV is worth $24,999, it would be really beneficial to a lot of us if you would share the line you used. [/QUOTE

If she asks just tell her it cost twenty-five -- she'll assume it's twenty-five hundred and probably complain about that. Just let her have her say and it'll soon be forgotten. Or, if you have lots of cash on hand just get her a new car and she won't even care you bought a new T.V. In that case the T.V. cost you closer to $50 or $60 thousand. You can't take it with you -- money, the T.V. or the wife.
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It's priced at $24,999 USD. Priced within reason? Well that's going to be extremely dependent on your bank roll and how good you are at slipping that expense past your significant other. And if you can convince your significant other that a TV is worth $24,999, it would be really beneficial to a lot of us if you would share the line you used. [/QUOTE

If she asks just tell her it cost twenty-five -- she'll assume it's twenty-five hundred and probably complain about that. Just let her have her say and it'll soon be forgotten. Or, if you have lots of cash on hand just get her a new car and she won't even care you bought a new T.V. In that case the T.V. cost you closer to $50 or $60 thousand. You can't take it with you -- money, the T.V. or the wife.
Man, you make it sound too easy! I'm going to save this conversation and let you know how it goes when the time comes.

But don't be surprised if I PM you asking to crash on your couch for a few days, LOL!

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To each his own and I realize the appeal of a nearly infinite contrast ratio. However, 77" would seem like a postage stamp to me since getting my 9 foot wide scope screen/set-up last year. I also think my JVC RS4810 projected to my Stewart ST100 gives a more natural, film-like image with well mastered Blu movies compared to any flat panel - even OLED.
It is an interesting predicament to be in-visual immersion due to size Vs the absolute best visual display-but not necessarily the largest.

I have the 4K Sony 1000es(un-upgraded) and I have seen the LG1080p OLED in store.


I would love to see them side by side being tested on all sorts of material - not just a plant being sprinkled with water against a black backdrop in slow motion!!
No question- the 1080p OLED is a thing of beauty-the Sony 1000(and 1100)es when set to auto-full and on a large screen gives the type of detail that no other display can match(although those 105inch LCD scope TVs from LG do look tasty!).


Blacks go to OLED--detail and immersion go to the Sony 4k 1000es(+ the blacks are not bad either---not quite as good as a JVC-but still damn good!)

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Toe - I watched all of disk 2 last night, amazing from beginning to end. A friend was over, we were going to watch Dracula Untold but decided to watch this first.

This kind of negative parallax will have Joseph Clark running for the hills, it's so intense it almost hurts in some scenes.

it was razor sharp on the 30K and looked impressive even in the darker scenes. I have a good 3D calibration (color /gamma) on the Sharp.

I see comments in the Epson thread about how contrast in 3D is the DLP deak-breaker. I have a ton of 3D content but don't run across that many movies with dark scenes that I find it to be an issue. I'd rather have rock solid flicker performance and no chance of x-talk. Maybe I see it more because of the 2.8HP, I have each 3D projector inches above eye level for max gain.

The reality is, all the non-DLP's have some visible t-talk. The VW1100 is quite good with the glasses in the dimmer mode. My RS46/X35 is similar to the last 2 generation JVC's including the 4910. They definitely made an improvement but the flicker is still there for those sensitive to it. I expect based on the L/R patterns on the Epson that it will be similar, if not identical to the 1100. X-talk in bright glasses mode, less in the 'normal' but still there for the tough content (re: any animation with high contrast scenes).

For casual 3D viewers, I think they are now good enough. But I have a lot of tough content that just looks better imo on the DLP. Maybe one day there will be a model with the best qualities of each technology. For now, I am still digging the woot bargain of the decade.


PS. We finally watched Dracula Untold - Great movie, highly recommended!!
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Toe - I watched all of disk 2 last night, amazing from beginning to end. A friend was over, we were going to watch Dracula Untold but decided to watch this first.

This kind of negative parallax will have Joseph Clark running for the hills, it's so intense it almost hurts in some scenes.

it was razor sharp on the 30K and looked impressive even in the darker scenes. I have a good 3D calibration (color /gamma) on the Sharp.

I see comments in the Epson thread about how contrast in 3D is the DLP deak-breaker. I have a ton of 3D content but don't run across that many movies with dark scenes that I find it to be an issue. I'd rather have rock solid flicker performance and no chance of x-talk. Maybe I see it more because of the 2.8HP, I have each 3D projector inches above eye level for max gain.

The reality is, all the non-DLP's have some visible t-talk. The VW1100 is quite good with the glasses in the dimmer mode. My RS46/X35 is similar to the last 2 generation JVC's including the 4910. They definitely made an improvement but the flicker is still there for those sensitive to it. I expect based on the L/R patterns on the Epson that it will be similar, if not identical to the 1100. X-talk in bright glasses mode, less in the 'normal' but still there for the tough content (re: any animation with high contrast scenes).

For casual 3D viewers, I think they are now good enough. But I have a lot of tough content that just looks better imo on the DLP. Maybe one day there will be a model with the best qualities of each technology. For now, I am still digging the woot bargain of the decade.


PS. We finally watched Dracula Untold - Great movie, highly recommended!!

Awesome! Glad you enjoyed part 2 and I am looking forward to getting parts 2 and 3 here to check out! Now I just need to get that cool HUE system you got and I will have full lighting/3d visuals to go with my music! I have tried a few of instrumental type jams with Lichtmond and it all paired together well.

I will be sure to check out Dracula Untold as well. Think we are watching Fury today.

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PS. We finally watched Dracula Untold - Great movie, highly recommended!!
Ditto! We watched it Friday night on VUDU HDX! Great cinematography!
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