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A nice premium for new stickers, heh. On a side note, an external color processor is hardly justified with this projector. Optoma HD131Xe has a RGBCYW color wheel which translates to less than Rec709 color volume (saturation, hue and luminance). You can't really make this projector match the standard even with a color processor.
Yeah, tell me about it. Just rebrand something "Diamond" or "Platinum" and mark the price up 200% and sit back and watch the uninformed open up their wallets. They should be ashamed of themselves...

And from the reviews I've read, that projector isn't really good for HT due to inaccurate colors (even after calibration). It's better suited for video games and watching sports. Even the newer HD141X suffers the same fate. But these are sub $1000 projectors so you can't really ask for perfection here.
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The Q750i is one of the largest and heaviest projectors I've had here It's going to look hilariously large next to the LG. I'll definitely snap a photo. Depending on how well they've refined this unit since cine4home's pre-production sample it may indeed come close in performance, but my guess it will come a little shy of the refined image the Runco is capable of putting out. But we'll see tomorrow!
I'm trying to have realistic expectations but it is good to see Cine4home was impressed with it.

at least another member will get a chance of ownership when you get rid of it in 2 weeks. This one I am definitely keeping for TV viewing
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Yeah, tell me about it. Just rebrand something "Diamond" or "Platinum" and mark the price up 200% and sit back and watch the uninformed open up their wallets. They should be ashamed of themselves...

And from the reviews I've read, that projector isn't really good for HT due to inaccurate colors (even after calibration). It's better suited for video games and watching sports. Even the newer HD141X suffers the same fate. But these are sub $1000 projectors so you can't really ask for perfection here.
there must be a enough 'boutique' customers who are buying their products to keep them in business. I still think it's odd that company's like JVC are licensing their product to another so it can be masqueraded in a fancy case. I don't believe there is any 'secret sauce' going on vs. the original product, it looks mainly like a re-label.
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I'm off from work tomorrow so I should have all afternoon/evening to play around with it.

I want to test input lag, ootb brightness, calibrated brightness, contrast performance, lens quality, native sharpness, and a few other aspects. I'm sure I'll have something written up by the end of the day tomorrow.

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there must be a enough 'boutique' customers who are buying their products to keep them in business. I still think it's odd that company's like JVC are licensing their product to another so it can be masqueraded in a fancy case. I don't believe there is any 'secret sauce' going on vs. the original product, it looks mainly like a re-label.
Yup, it's purely cosmetic for the most part (possibly a more high end case design, "cooler" name, etc...). I'm sure they try to differentiate themselves by offering perks/incentives (e.g., better warranties, customer support, etc...). But that wouldn't justify the price hike for myself. Marketing such as this caters purely to the 1%...the people who have to own Brand A just because it's more expensive than Brand B (even though the internals that make it tick are exactly the same). Hey, maybe the case matches the rest of their decor better (WAF).
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Just got my tracking number:

I'm off from work tomorrow so I should have all afternoon/evening to play around with it.

I want to test input lag, ootb brightness, calibrated brightness, contrast performance, lens quality, native sharpness, and a few other aspects. I'm sure I'll have something written up by the end of the day tomorrow.
Did you finally get calibration software? If so, make sure and check all saturation levels @ 100/75/50/25. I'll be look at this closely to see if it matches Cine4home's findings.

I promised some folks in the under 3K thread to discuss the calibration since it has a CMS built in.
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I've had ChromaPure Professional for a few months now. I have a Lumagen Radiance XD that I normally use the Auto-Cal feature with.

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well that was fast, BH sold out of the PF-1500's. I guess that's what happens when we starting discussing new projectors on one of the most popular threads.
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I've had ChromaPure Professional for a few months now. I have a Lumagen Radiance XD that I normally use the Auto-Cal feature with.
how many hours on your X500? I would be curious to see the gamma curve with the default 2.2 setting. A number of members are discussing gamma droop but I don't know how many hours are on the clock when they are seeing this.

do you have any intentions of keeping the LG for general use?

for 3+ years I used my QUMI on a tripod and a makeshift screen for watching TV at night before bed. I was going to upgrade to the PF85 but knew this was coming since around Xmas time and decided to wait.

2 of the major standout features are the WIDI and Bluetooth. I was surprised how well WIDI/Miracast works.

one concern will be the focus. The plastic lens on the QUMI would shift as it warmed up. not a deal breaker but a bugger to have to focus it twice in a sitting.
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I'll check tonight, but I always seem to have 3 or 4 different projectors here at a time so it's hard to put a ton of hours on the JVC. In fact, I'm typing this now as I'm using the Q750i. The JVC has been been neglected for the past couple weeks (it's actually on the floor right now haha). I'm sure you go through similar problems. #firstworldproblems

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well that was fast, BH sold out of the PF-1500's. I guess that's what happens when we starting discussing new projectors on one of the most popular threads.
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That's where I was gonna order it if you and Dylan's observations were good. Guess it will be just a longer wait now unless I can find it in stock elsewhere.

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