Originally Posted by mbw23air
Did you see the DPI Cine LED 1000 lumen version or the 600 lumen version that blee also had? I saw the Cine LED 1000 at Mike Garrett's and I was very impressed at the depth and dimension the image had....very impressive. I also saw Mike's Sony 600es that you had calibrated and the colors were awesome. I almost talked myself into getting a Cine LED 1000 but I would've needed an anamorphic lens for it to have worked with my 2.35 screen so I'm waiting till this fall for a 4k projector. I was still very impressed with the Cine LED 1000.
Mike, hi, yes it was the Cine LED 1000. Of all the different projectors I have here, it was closest to my Planar which makes sense since they are all practically the same projector including the Runco 750. Once calibrated to D65/R709, they are all very similar in appearance.
I agree with the comments on the depth and dimension, these projector's PQ exceeds the raw contrast #'s which doesn't look that impressive on paper, especially compared to high native projectors like the JVC's.
The real struggle with the .95 DLP's (well all the DLP's for that matter) is the low APL performance. This is where the contrast limitations can't really hide. if I'm watching Dracula Untold, i'm going for the JVC, not the Planar (or the Cine, or the Runco, etc).
I had several chances to own the Cine and Runco LED models, the problem is that I purchased the Planar at a great price and the lamps are practically free (~100 for an OEM lamp) and they last quite a while. I don't use it enough to offset the difference in cost. The Runco 750 I believe is still 2 times the MSRP price of the Runco LS-5.
I see the argument Seegs makes for the Epson in same context. Basically paying 2 times the amount for the light source for similar PQ (JVC 4910 / Epson LS10000). For heavy users, it could definitely make sense. I agree with the point he made on the cheapie LG PF1500. It's basically giving a long life light source away for free and has comparable or better PQ than the current sub $1,000 UHP DLP's and is very portable which is a great feature.
Optoma tried to sell at $3500 for the LED based HD91 that was not competitive in PQ to the counterparts in the same price range (Epson 5030, Sony HW55, JVC RS46/X35). I don't think that worked out well for them. I'm waiting for the woot deals to show up, there must be an inventory of them somewhere.
the point is, hopefully once the R&D dollars are made back, the LED and Laser light sources will eventually become commodities and not add a substantial cost to their UHP counterparts.
I do like the ability to turn the LG on and off like a TV. I am still floored at a sub-10 second boot time with full HDMI handshake. I predict this will be a popular seller. It's just the right price point of a compulsive purchase and has very good value / functionality built in.
I'll post some calibration details later tonight. A portable projector with a built in CMS. who would have thought.