Originally Posted by zombie10k
well you should have told me to skip PDVD 15..
All things considered, it looked pretty impressive once I adjusted the picture tone settings.
so a few things I'm confused about if you can clarify further. Should I try the MadVR at this point or does it need further development to see those file correctly?
it looks like some conflicting info on the Roku4 - what are your thoughts here?
besides the very limited content on that page and 2 shows from Amazon, is there anything else that has HDR on the horizon to see?
I did not see those settings you are referring to but will look closer. I'll also go back and try the Cinema 2 color profile as well.
Yeah, sorry about PDVD15, brain fart on my part, I completely forgot it was pointless to try it as it doesn't support 10bits rendering. I did warn you though that there was no guarantee the software will output the content correctly
Yes, no point in trying any PC Software right now. We need 10bit out and MadVR is the only renderer that does it, and it doesn't support HDR at the moment. Interestingly, Madshi is saying that MadVr will support HDR with a standard gamma curve, ie without having to select PQ Gamma on the display (preset D). I have no idead how or why, but it's interesting because that means MadVR can handle the content without us having to change the display mode (it is already able to apply the correct 3D LUT according to the content, say PAL/NTSC/Rec-709/P3, so I guess the idea is to be able to display the content correctly without having to change anything manually on the display).
I'll let you know as soon as MadVR supports HDR. In the meantime, get ready by making sure you can get it to work in 10bits FSE (full screen exclusive) mode, as this is what you're going to need for HDR.
My thoughts on the current 4K players are as follow:
- Roku 4: Full 18Gb/s bandwidth (great) but no HDR support yet. No Kodi support either (does support Plex though), no HD Audio passthrough either, and no frame rate switch (I think it's locked to 60p, no 23/24p). So not so great. Main pluses are Mgo (no HDR though) and Amazon Prime support (HD/UHD only, no HDR).
- NVidia Shield: Full 18Gb/s bandwidth (great) but no HDR support yet. Kodi supports, with auto refresh rate and HD Audio passthrough. But it doesn't support Amazon Prime in UHD or HDR (you can sideload the HD/SDR version only).
- Amazon Fire TV 4K: slow HDMI 1.4 chipset (10.2Gb/s), no HDR either, so pointless really, a Roku 4 is much better if you absolutely need Amazon Prime, otherwise a Shield with Kodi should give better results (both video and audio).
- Sony FMP-X10: looks like the only option to test HDR content at the moment on the JVCs.
I'm going to wait for HDR support in MadVR. I might upgrade my HD7870 to a Fury if the Club3D adapter works well and if that allows me to get decent HEVC hybrid decoding. Otherwise I'll wait for Artic Islands.
I do plan to get a UHD Bluray player as soon as they become available next year, so I'm hoping I'll get Amazon 4K support included, possibly with HDR this time (as well as Netflix 4K). Given the poor quality of streaming, it's mainly for testing purposes so as neither the Roku 4 or NVidia Shield support HDR I think I'm going to pass for now and improve the HTPC. As I'm using MadVR for all my calibration, scaling and playback needs, that's what makes most sense.
There is very little HDR content available with streaming, and everyone is waiting to see which of the competing formats is going to become the standard.
Here is the reference thread for HDR content: http://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-lc...ted-often.html
I think an HDR standard will be announced at CES. I'm hoping it will be HDR10, but it could be Dolby Vision too.
If they don't get this right, it's going to be very difficult to get the various formats to take off. Way too confusing for the end-user...