Originally Posted by Wizziwig
No objective evidence to support that. Ekki has hinted the same ~300:1 ANSI as previous generations across all 3 models in his X5000 series evaluation.
This isn't an apples-to-apples comparison, but this
website lists the RS500 as ~1000:1 at 10% APL. Wish they would test lower 0-10% APL levels too. Compare that to 4000:1 for the VW520 from the other site.
Thanks everyone for sharing your input. If I understand the analogy, you're all saying poor on/off is more distracting than poor ANSI, even though we're limited by the poor ANSI for the vast majority of material. I do remember when I first switched from a CRT HDTV to plasma I was very disappointed in the contrast.
I guess it's all a bit subjective and might explain why some reviewers still prefer the Sony models over JVC/Epson. Hopefully someday we'll get the best contrast across all APL levels in the same projector and we won't have to compromise.
I've riddled this stuff (as many others in here have) down to the equations as well. For one, you cannot you cannot trust measurements or compare measurements really.
I do not think it is subjective, it's like saying a Benq ht2050 could beat a JVC because the Benq has higher ANSI contrast, in 99% of movies you would notice the Benq losing on contrast, it is always the same.
I used to own the Mitsubishi hc4000 (and the hc7800 which was less ANSI) and it had pretty high ANSI in the 700:1+ range, and it was no match for a JVC's contrast in 90% of scenes. I've seen the Runco LS-5 and similar projectors, also own several DLP's and a JVC.
It's not subjective, any half-blind person would agree the JVC has more contrast. You would not convince anyone that has ever seen my theater (30+ people) that the DLP they watched (regardless which DLP it is) is going to look better from ANSI contrast over the JVC in most scenes, and I don't even have a newer JVC.
Now if you get a projector like a Runco or something, you can at least see some difference, better in some things, but overall the JVC is still going to beat it. I like DLP better for watching some types of content, but not for most movies.
Anyhow the problem with JVC was never ANSI contrast, it was an inherent slight noise in the pixel resolution and color issues (yellow tint) in older models, which are fixed in todays' models. The higher ANSI contrast is rarely needed to produce a more contrasty looking image. People would in the old days equate this to "ANSI contrast" difference, when it was really just differences in the how the DLP pixels look to our eyes compared to the LCOS pixels (some sharpness and some immediate pixel contrast resolution)...
I agree there were a few scenes where high ANSI might beat a JVC, but it was VERY VERY rare to notice the difference, 90% of the time native on/off is going to make more difference.