Originally Posted by Toe
Sounds good Mark. I dont doubt that the picture would improve to some degree for 2d. I wish you would not have spared the sexual analogies though since we could always use more entertainment around here.
Everyone has different priorities. My biggest priority right now as I mentioned is TRULY ghost/flicker free 3d for both blu ray and 120hz and the JVC simply wont be at this level. Considering I am already VERY happy with my 2d (even if it is not as good as the new models which I certainly dont doubt), going for better 3d (and improved lag) with a 2nd projector seems like the wisest investment this year for me. As far as ghosting/flicker goes, I seem to be more sensitive than most and it is not that I am actively looking for it, but rather it seems to find me.
I cant not see it at this point and it drives me nuts......so much so that as I have mentioned, I have quit watching 3d on my JVC (last movie I watched in 3d was Underworld 4 whenever that came out this year). Its not just the ghosting either, but the flicker which is almost as annoying as crosstalk for me at this point. I simply cant live with the ghosting/flicker on the JVC and the new models are not going to be near enough to change my mind from the early reports so far (there is no reason to think flicker has been improved at all).
Another thing to consider is I am using a HP screen which amplifies issues like ghosting and flicker. From my experience, the brighter the image, the more noticeable both ghosting and flicker becomes which is also a reason I am probably a bit more sensitive to these issues vs someone with a 1.0 screen.
Its all good and again we all just have different priorities. Chances are I will buy the latest and greatest JVC next year (and from AVS of course
) which will be even better than the new models now which is something nice to look forward to.
Not like I am exactly going to be roughing it until then with a 45/7000/Darbee combo.
That sounds like a great option to have with the 7000! I tried 2d to 3d on my JVC very briefly, but the ghosting killed it. I will have to check when I get home to see if my 93 has 2d to 3d conversion, but I am pretty sure it does not unfortunately.
IMO and knowing your situation it's a struggle for you but either way I think you'd come out a winner on this.
That being said it sounds like you could be talking yourself out of the JVC before there's really even a consensus of improvements or lack thereof (especially given that fact that you're feeling the pressure knowing you have to commit very soon and the timings of trying to coordinate your sale before the fire sale begins on the dock of "the bay"
After reading the initial impressions from our mates across the waters I took away a few things (all IMO of course)...
First and foremost the 2D picture quality for the JVC is still top dog (in terms of a very filmic look and accurate colors). That is my #1 priority even though I love 3D on my RS55 (when I can ignore the dark ghosting... BTW, MIB3 was great!).
3D seemed to be a fairly noticable improvement (I'm not sure how you came away with it being the same or worse based on Jagdeepp's review ("3d was very impressive on both PJ's. The Sony wins here though simply because it's brighter and punchier. The JVC seems to have improved over earlier models. It's much better
"). That in of itself has me hopeful for Jason's review.
The JVC seemed to be at a slight disadvantage the way it was set-up using max zoom and an open iris (the Sony's DI may be more forgiving in this regard but I have a really
difficult time believing the Sony could top the JVC in ANSI contrast or black level given the correct set-up so as to take advantage of JVC's true black floor ability given its native contrast ability). I did not A/B the Sony HW50 against a JVC but when I got home after previewing the same titles at my local dealer I thought my RS55 was much
better especially in terms of pure shadow detail and depth (and that was from The Dark Knight IMAX scenes!). I have a hard time thinking the new models could be worse than this years models (I guess only time will tell but I remain skeptical even though I realize I have the extra iris on the RS55). Could it be between the max zoom in combination of a quick calibration that the JVC's normally finicky GS & gamma was not where it should have been (IMO you can easily crush black on these units if not careful)?
The big question (for me) which remains unanswered is the larger than Rec709 gamut. If that can be verified as "doable" then so far am I still cautiously optimistic the "upgrade" will be worth the coin.
I think it may have been Kelvin (NO... not Kevin!
), who hit the nail on the head for me... I still rely on (and LOVE) the power zoom and memory settings and don't think for my theater I could consider a PJ without that feature at this point... it's just too darn valuable/flexible.
Like I said Todd... either road you choose to travel will likely get you where you wanna go! (I could not handle the look of two PJ's in my setup; even if just from an ascetics perspective!)