Originally Posted by cpc
Are the Epson and JVC both sharper native if the convergence is ok? How many people are reporting un-even focus across the Sony?
So let me see if I have this right:
1) Sony is softer than others unless RC is used no more than 20-30 which brings more detail and sharper look
2) Epson is sharper native than Sony but SR doesn't quite match RC for detail enhancement and Epson has no FI in 3D. Is the Epson sharp enough native that if I prefer a sharp image I should chose the Epson over the Sony?
3) Newest JVC's have the best 3D they have ever produced, but still some ghosting and motion for 2D and 3D still falls behind Epson and Sony. Lower black floor than Sony and Epson. JVC are above average sharpness. Are the JVC sharp enough native that I would prefer over the Sony? I honestly don't have the new JVC line figured out yet. I hate how they have two lines and now this year the 4810. How do they all compare?
My concern is the softness of the Sony HW50 because all other things being equal it sounds like a good unit. Also wonder about the black levels and contrast compared to the last projector I used, the Epson 1080 UB Pro.
How does the sharpness of the HW50 compare to the other projectors here? How close are they compared to the old Mitsubishi HC7000?
How do the black levels compare to the older Epson 1080 UB Pro, Mitsubishi HC7000, and the JVC RS40?
Let me see if I can add a different perspective:
It also depends how close you sit to the screen and how big you prefer the image, the only way I'd really let sharpness be a major decision factor is if you love super giant screens and love sitting really close and using your HTPC a lot. If you are just watching video, even at my seating distance (1.0x sw), sharpness doesn't make that much difference between the most recent projectors I've owned.
One scene to check HOW the maximum amount sharpness might affect your video viewing is in the movie "Tree of Life", where the clouds billow smoke up in an almost "h-bomb" type look. The clouds here have very fine details and projectors with a sharpness issue will tend to blur it a bit. Another scene to check is using 2D
but from the "3D Ultimate Wave Tahiti" at about 1 minute in or so when the camera does a quick but nice pan horizontally forward over the ocean, this is a reference level shot of the ocean (probably best I've ever seen). This shot only lasts 5 seconds or so, so I'd have to go look at the exact time mark of where the scene is, but my point being is that less sharp projectors lose dimensionality in this scene. It's too bad this movie only caught (1) reference level scene in the entire movie. The most reference level scenes in any movie I've ever seen is still "Tree of Life", not only does it have some reference level skin tone shots, but it also has some incredibly sharp shots in the digital part of the film (the little CG + space scenes cut).
Since most of the content we watch on Blurays (90%) is not even close to reference level (cameras don't focus perfectly, lighting blurs fine details, mastering not great, cinematagraphy bland), then sharpness matters more for those FAR and FEW between WOW and AHH moments on like documentary scenery and stuff like that. Even though newer films are mostly filmed with all digital cameras, I still don't find that they are usually that sharp, hence one of the problems I find in movies is the way they focus the cameras, the camera man often picks a bad focal point for the scene.
Keep in mind that even watching documentaries, these WOW moments where they hit near-reference level camera work isn't always that often, but there tend to be more I suppose in documentaries than normal movie viewing for sure.
A JVC with extra-lucky convergence is about as sharp as it gets for any NON-DLP projector, arguably the Mits hc9000d was slightly sharper, but then again it depends on convergence luck. The Epson is more luck-of-the draw, I would say you have greater than 50% chance to get very excellent convergence on a JVC, and probably only a 25% chance to get excellent convergence on an Epson, though expect good to really good convergence at least about half the time on the Epson.
My friend's second Epson 5010 has really good convergence, but not as good as my JVC. His first was off too much regardless of the fine pixel adjustment features. It seems most picky people end up returning the Epson 1-2 times before settling.