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post #61 of 69 Old 12-22-2012, 09:17 PM
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Yes, I am afflicted. The fact that I am willing to visit the basements of people I have met on the internet, to demo their projectors, genuinely worries my other half biggrin.gif

Seegs - I hope they fix the issue and it doesn't take too long, at least you have plenty of backups.

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Thanks. Physically everything seems to work fine. The software/processing seems to be way off. Native contrast seems pretty low for a DC4, but I think it has to do with with contrast setting set at default WAY too high and it looks like I don't have enough range to turn it down. It makes things look washed out. Whites also seem to be clipped due to the high default contrast setting. I've seen a couple DC4 machines and the native CR much higher, especially before engaging any iris, whether it be manual or dynamic. I own the Planar PD8150 and thats a DC3 machine with same light path and optics as this and the native CR is much higher. I'm seriously hoping its a software issue and nothing due to the LEDs.
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I'm just curious to see if anyone else on here is as crazy as me as far as purchases go? I have gone through a total of 15 projectors in as little as 14 months. The unfortunate thing about anything visual is that you need to actually see it to really get an understanding of what the product is all about. I have to say that projectors are one of the hardest consumer product to track down to actually audition. That is the main reasoning of why I've gone through so many. I figured the best and easiest way to get access to all these fine projectors was to buy them and then, subsequently, sell them if I didn't like them or had seen better.

Here's what I've gone through; in chronological order: (Updated 7/11/14)


1.) Panasonic PT-AE900U - 720p 3LCD
2.) Sanyo PLV-1080HD - 1080p 3LCD
3.) Epson Home Cinema 6500UB - 1080p 3 LCD
4.) JVC DLA RS10 - 1080p LCOS
5.) JVC DLA-RS20 - 1080p LCOS
6.) Planar PD8150 - 1080p .95" DC3 DLP
7.) Sim2 Domino D80 - 1080p .95" DC3 DLP
8.) Optoma HD20 - 1080p DC2 .65" DLP
9.) Epson 8100 - 1080p 3LCD
10.) Mitsubishi HC7800D - 1080p .65" DC3 3D DLP
11.) Infocus IN81 - 1080p .95" DC2 DLP
12.) InFocus IN82 - 1080p .95" DC3 DLP
13.) InFocus IN83 - 1080p .95" DC4 DLP
14.) JVC DLA-X3 - 1080p 3D LCOS
15.) BenQ W5000 - 1080p .95" DC2 DLP
16.) Marantz VP-11S1 - 1080p .95" DC3 DLP
17.) NuVision ProVu P2 - 1080p .95" DC4 LED DLP
18.) Marantz VP-15S1 - 1080p .95" DC3 DLP
19.) Vivitek H5085 - 1080p .65" DC3 DLP
20.) Samsung SP-A800B - 1080p .95" DC2 DLP
21.) Vivitek H9080FD - 1080p .95" DC4 LED DLP
22.) Runco LS-1 - 1080p .95" DC2 DLP
23.) JVC DLA-X30 - 1080p 3D LCOS
24.) Mitsubishi HC5 - 1080p 3D LCOS
25.) Optoma HD25 - 1080p .65" DC3 3D DLP
26.) BenQ W20000 - 1080p .95" DC3 DLP
27.) JVC DLA-X55R - 1080p 3D E-Shift v.2 LCOS
28.) Optoma HD131Xe - 1080p .65" DC3 3D DLP
29.) Knoll Systems HDP460 - 1080p .95" DC4 DLP
30.) JVC DLA-X90 - 1080p 3D E-Shift v1 LCOS
31.) Runco RS-900 - 1080p .95" DC2? DLP
32.) Sony VPL-VW90ES - 1080p 3D LCOS
33.) Runco RS-1100 Ultra - 1080p .95" DC3 DLP
34.) Mitsubishi HC7900DW - 1080p 3D .65" DC3 DLP
35.) Sharp XV-Z30000 - 1080p 3D .65" DLP
36.) Runco Q750i - 1080p LED .95" DC4 DLP
37.) JVC DLA-X500 - 1080p 3D E-Shift v.3 LCOS
38.) Runco LS-100D - 1080p LED .95" DC4 DLP
39.) Runco LS-10i - 1080p 3 Chip .65" "DC4" DLP

Other odds and ends:

Anamorphic Lenses:
ISCO IIIL with Motorized Sled
Panamorph UH480 with Motorized Sled
Schneider Optics Cine-Digitar (basically a smaller version of the optics in the ISCO IIIL)

3D Glasses:

X-Pand 103 - IR
MonsterVision Max - RF(Bit-Couldron BC5000 system)
EStar ESG6100 3D - RF
Stock IR JVC Glasses and Emitter - IR
Stock Mitsubishi HC7800D Glasses & Emitter - IR
Stock Sharp XV-Z30000 AN3DG20B Glasses and Emitter - IR

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Each new purchase was to either upgrade or because I could get a good deal and see it for myself. Everything after the Planar has been been for the latter reason. I have yet to see a better well balanced projector that does everything just about perfectly. I just received the Marantz this evening. It is far dimmer than any other projector I've previously owned. I just purchased a Da-Lite Model B High Contrast High Power 2.4 gain screen for it so I can get the most use from it.

I guess I'm pretty anxious to try new things out and unfortunately this has fueled my madness.


Out of all these projectors which one do you like the most and for what reasons, especially blacks?
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Well, you've narrowed it down when you want to know which one I like for blacks. The X500 has by far the best black level performance and low APL (average picture level) performance out of all the projectors I've owned so far. For DLP, the Planar PD8150 has been the best in regards to black level and low APL scene performance. The Sharp XV-Z20000 has the best black level performance I've ever seen from a DLP projector, but because it uses an adjustable static iris you're forced to use a very small screen to be able to get a decently bright image for high APL level scenes otherwise the image looks far too dim. A nice compromise would be a Da-Lite High Power screen with the Sharp, but then again, you're still stuck to smaller screen sizes maybe around 100" diagonal.
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I remember comparing the same Blu-Ray movies on both the original giant Panasonic 103" plasma and the Sharp Z20000 projector, and I was surprised to find the Sharp projector had both deeper black levels and a sharper image. It was encountering the amazing image put out by the Sharp that really got me thinking seriously of the move to projectors.
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I remember comparing the same Blu-Ray movies on both the original giant Panasonic 103" plasma and the Sharp Z20000 projector, and I was surprised to find the Sharp projector had both deeper black levels and a sharper image. It was encountering the amazing image put out by the Sharp that really got me thinking seriously of the move to projectors.
Interesting. A free electric screen is what got me thinking about projectors. I sort of fell a$$ backwards into home theater. I like to point out that the free electric screen has cost me $ 50,000.00 by now. Or more....

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Expanding on the premise of the original post, for sure the internet is an amazing force for boosting sales of everything.

Rabid enthusiasts of whatever stripe congregate in their respective fora, further inciting each others' passions and pushing the bleeding edge ever further; not so many years ago a single long-throw 15" driver was considered the top of the food chain, now there's no limit, with multiple 18"-ers not even raising eyebrows.

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I've owned a lot of projectors -- both CRT and digital. So far I've been able tho avoid spending the big bucks on new projectors. The G90 I owned I bought used for a fraction of what it cost new where I live ($60,000 plus another $9,000 in tax). I've also spent over $10,000 on a digital projector. I presently own 8 projectors and when it comes to value my $799 Mits HC7900 wins big time. I watch pretty much everything in 3D using a Teranex 3D processor, or the exceptionally functional built-in 3D converter so black levels are respectable with glasses on -- I have three HP 2.8 gain screens.

I've learned a few lessons -- the big one is that unless you're going to keep a projector for a very long time do not spend over $10,000 and better yet, don't spend over $5,000 on a projector. I'm an equipment junkie so I know I'm going to buy something new on a regular basis -- I just have to make sure I don't do something stupid like spending a ton of money on new acquisitions. Maybe I should just buy Seegs's cast aways.

Perhaps we should set up a trading/lending/swapping service and send each other our projectors so we can get to see what certain projectors look like for a week or so without having to actually buy them -- paying for shipping costs is a lot cheaper than buying something new and then watching it depreciate at the speed of light.
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