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Speaking as a non-lawyer, if it walks like a duck, ....., it is.

This is the way it works:

A manufacturer is free to set price controls within its chain of distribution. Sony can choose it's dealers and require that they adhere to pricing policies. The theory is that this is permissible because it benefits consumers by allowing higher margins and better customer service. Therefore, it strengthens the brand.

But, Sony and JVC cannot between themselves decide to set prices as some minimum level. This is an impermissible conspiracy in restraint of trade.

So, vertical price fixing is okay. Horizontal price fixing is not.

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I told you we have more wink.gif

I'm just coming out for my first demo of the VW500ES wink.gif Video will follow
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The 4K Server and the movies are arriving in Europe in the meantime. wink.gif
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Is the 500ES announcement what you were referencing with "nothing you've read is close to whats coming! " ?
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That what SONY has written wink.gif
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Ah .. ha.... well that was what they were referencing? Kind of underwhelming I guess...

If the price is really under 10k LIST, then that is pretty nice, but at $15k with a 265w bulb vs a 330w, I will pass....


Nothing else being announced?
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The price is 9890€ for Europe so under 10000€
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Ok, some things I'm wondering about:

(1) The VW1000/1100 is rated with 1,000,000:1 contrast, the VW500 with 200,000:1. Where does the difference come from? Do they use different quality panels? Or is it just a different Iris? Will there also be a 5x difference in native contrast?
(2) I suppose the VW500 has a lesser quality lens compared to the VW1000/1100?
(3) How about ANSI contrast?
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The black levels from the VW500ES that I just saw are amazing with very good brightness and the demo was made on a 3m50 widescreen.
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Kraine,

Thanks for posting the promo video. Looks like the 55es model will still have manual shift controls, correct?
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This is correct. PS : It's a presentation video not a prom one, with on PJHC.FR have made it. wink.gif
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And live from Berlin the size comparaison :

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And to feed the new VW500ES, SONY is bringing this device to Europe

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This is correct. PS : It's a presentation video not a prom one, with on PJHC.FR have made it. wink.gif

Promo is another word for demo(presentation) here in U.S. A 4k prom video would look great too though. wink.gif

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Ok sorry for my mistake Mike.

We are working right now on a new video of the VW500ES in action in Berlin. smile.gif
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That is news for Europe. The server is already shipping in the US and the download service will have the details announced at Cedia.
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Promo is another word for demo(presentation) here in U.S. A 4k prom video would look great too though. wink.gif

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A 4K demo porn video would be good too. smile.gif
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A 4K demo porn video would be good too. smile.gif

You dirty old man!!!!
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"3m50 widescreen"

So, how wide was the demo screen in feet?
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If he meant 3,5 meters? That would 11,5 feet then.
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140 inches
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A 4K demo porn video would be good too. smile.gif

I did mean to say a 4k demo porn prom video with participants over 18.

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Ok sorry for my mistake Mike.

We are working right now on a new video of the VW500ES in action in Berlin. smile.gif

Thanks for all your hard work Kraine! Look forward to seeing video.

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Yeah but sadly only mens where in the demo room tongue.gif
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140 inches

That's what she said.
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So your saying it should street for under 10 000 in North America? Is this direct from Sony? Maybe AVS got some BS info from Sony, unless they decided at the last minute to reduce the price. I'm sure Mike will be back any minute telling us 10 000 MSRP biggrin.gifwink.gif
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Enjoy, this one none else can provide it wink.gif
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Thank You, Kraine!
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Now in English I will give you my first visual impression about the picture delivered by the SONY VPL-VW500ES :

The SONY VPL-VW500ES is installed on the Sony stand in a dedicated room well insulated light and very dark on a 3.50 wide screen (140 inches). For now all I have seen is very good, color fidelity, depth and impressive black density, while maintaining excellent dynamic image (3m50 screen remember ! ). The VW500 has punch. Fluidity is also excellent. I wll continue my test tomorrow with a special session for me.
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