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User manual

Projector Central setup calculator

JVC setup calculator

Setup tips

Basic calibration disc

Online reviews:
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Pixel convergence test pattern::
Access the service menu for this test pattern. On the remote, quickly press UP DOWN RIGHT LEFT ENTER

Reported info:
2D Low lamp (calibrated/uncalibrated Natural): 717 / 631 lumens
2D High lamp (calibrated/uncalibrated Natural): 939 / 916 lumens
3D High lamp (uncalibrated 3D profile): 995 lumens
Lag (gaming): 80 ms

3D ghosting problem with initial release:
Switcher #: 2012.9.26.1 (faulty 3D)
Switcher #: 2012.12.4.1 (fixed 3D)
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My JVC DLA-X35 arrived today! This is my second projector ever. My first was a 720p Optoma HD72 DLP projector from 2006.

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As far as I know, there are currently no high quality photos of the back panel on the web. As a result, the right angle HDMI adapter that I pre-ordered is, naturally, the opposite of what I need. rolleyes.gif
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Bigger is better
JVC vs Optoma

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Ive got one coming next week.Cant wait to read some owners reviews.
Good luck with it.
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As a fellow projector newb who has preordered an RS-46, is there a 'new' projector checklist of things to check after it arrives? For example, convergence.

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Congrates on your new toy:)
Enjoy!
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Ive got one coming next week.Cant wait to read some owners reviews.
Good luck with it.

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As a fellow projector newb who has preordered an RS-46, is there a 'new' projector checklist of things to check after it arrives? For example, convergence.

Ditto. I would also appreciate some advice. This is my first LCOS.


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Congrates on your new toy:)
Enjoy!

Thanks. Unfortunately, I might not have time to fire it up until next week. eek.gif


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I have a 6 year old Chief RPA ceiling mount that I used for my Optoma (a fairly small and lightweight DLP). I really like this low profile mount because of my low ceiling.

These are the parts:




These small Chief extenders need to be used for the mount to reach the JVC's holes. This is the connection that worries me:


Should I be concerned about the mount's strength to hold the JVC? confused.gif

Alternatively, there's a $100+ mounting plate (SLB281) for JVC projectors but I don't think I need it?
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good thinks, i like it ,me too, I would also appreciate some advice. This is my first LCOS
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Congrats Dragon smile.gif Man, that is a HUGE difference in size compared to you old Optoma projector. eek.gif Geez. Let us know what you think of it when you do fire it up!
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For convergence checking w/o tool, I put on 007 Casino Royale BR with Bond on the Beach scene (nice and bright), then look at either the upper or lower left, where the black bar and the actual movie content line/edge for any colors, other than black or blue (sky or water color). Any extra colors indicate convergence issue.

My understanding that new JVC or Sony should NOT have this issue.

Have fun w/ your new toy.
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You need the SLB281 plate. Give me a call and I can add it to your preorder. Also I did not see a drop tube. You need that to connect the ceiling plate and mount together. A pipe nipple also works.

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You need the SLB281 plate. Give me a call and I can add it to your preorder. Also I did not see a drop tube. You need that to connect the ceiling plate and mount together. A pipe nipple also works.

Thanks for your response, Mike, but I may end up using my original mount.

Because after doing a bit of searching, I found Ralph Potts' post detailing his success with the same mount on his JVC, linked here:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1283884/ceiling-mounts-fo-jvc-rs-40-50-60/120#post_19669256


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Subscribed. I just got confirmation of my order from Mike today. This will be my first projector. Unfortunately, the theater isn't quite ready for it. This will be incentive to work faster smile.gif


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I haven't ceiling mounted it yet so I have it on a table, level with the bottom edge of the screen, projecting from 10 feet onto a 100" SeymourAV (minimum throw). Here are my initial impressions;

Quiet. This projector is very very quiet. It's much quieter than my Optoma was. If I select the 3D mode, only then would it get as loud as my Optoma. Quieter than my PS3. High lamp mode is similar to my PS3 when the PS3 starts to run hot and its fan revs up; and only slightly louder than the Optoma when in this mode. Excellent as far as I'm concerned.

IR remote works effectively when I point it at the screen. Better than my Optoma.

It's also nice and bright enough on low lamp mode, even with moderate room lighting (side pot lights on full, and wall sconces at half power).

After applying vertical and a tiny bit of horizontal lens shift, I checked focus uniformity using a 1-pixel test pattern, courtesy of sarangiman. No problems, edge to edge, corner to corner. Excellent.

Other than checking focus, I haven't checked convergence or anything else. I havent touched ANY settings. Basically, i just put it in Cinema mode for now so I can enjoy a movie this evening. Going to initiate it with The Dark Knight Rises. It should be a good premiere movie, I'm thinking. smile.gif


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i just put it in Cinema mode for now so I can enjoy a movie this evening. Going to initiate it with The Dark Knight Rises. It should be a good premiere movie, I'm thinking. smile.gif

Enjoy and let us know your thoughts after the movie. I just confirmed my order with Mike for the 4810 today smile.gif
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I haven't ceiling mounted it yet so I have it on a table, level with the bottom edge of the screen, projecting from 10 feet onto a 100" SeymourAV (minimum throw). Here are my initial impressions;
Quiet. This projector is very very quiet. It's much quieter than my Optoma was. If I select the 3D mode, only then would it get as loud as my Optoma. Quieter than my PS3. High lamp mode is similar to my PS3 when the PS3 starts to run hot and its fan revs up; and only slightly louder than the Optoma when in this mode. Excellent as far as I'm concerned.
IR remote works effectively when I point it at the screen. Better than my Optoma.
It's also nice and bright enough on low lamp mode, even with moderate room lighting (side pot lights on full, and wall sconces at half power).
After applying vertical and a tiny bit of horizontal lens shift, I checked focus uniformity using a 1-pixel test pattern, courtesy of sarangiman. No problems, edge to edge, corner to corner. Excellent.
Other than checking focus, I haven't checked convergence or anything else. I havent touched ANY settings. Basically, i just put it in Cinema mode for now so I can enjoy a movie this evening. Going to initiate it with The Dark Knight Rises. It should be a good premiere movie, I'm thinking. smile.gif

How is sharpness, brightness compared to your DLP? How many hours was on the Optoma lamp?
What is your aperture setting on?
You are right Dark Knight will make your 46 shine:)
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How is sharpness, brightness compared to your DLP? How many hours was on the Optoma lamp?
What is your aperture setting on?
You are right Dark Knight will make your 46 shine:)

I had about 900 hours on the Optoma bulb. With the JVC still on low lamp mode, the JVC brightness was definitely better, and more importantly, brighter while still maintaining good contrast and colour accuracy. Definitely better brightness with room lighting on.

I didn't do any pixel-level A-B testing between the (720p) Optoma and JVC, but sharpness at 1.5X seating distance was plenty sharp for me (at least equal to the DLP).

Watching TDKR with the lights off, I started the movie with the aperture at 0. Ended up settling on -10 which felt quite comfortable for viewing. I watched it on low lamp mode, but would probably open up the iris for ambient lighting.

To sum up, I felt like I was watching a 100" version of my Kuro.biggrin.gif
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I had about 900 hours on the Optoma bulb. With the JVC still on low lamp mode, the JVC brightness was definitely better, and more importantly, brighter while still maintaining good contrast and colour accuracy. Definitely better brightness with room lighting on.
I didn't do any pixel-level A-B testing between the (720p) Optoma and JVC, but sharpness at 1.5X seating distance was plenty sharp for me (at least equal to the DLP).
Watching TDKR with the lights off, I started the movie with the aperture at 0. Ended up settling on -10 which felt quite comfortable for viewing. I watched it on low lamp mode, but would probably open up the iris for ambient lighting.
To sum up, I felt like I was watching a 100" version of my Kuro.biggrin.gif


wow, 100 inch kuro!
I wonder if you checked out the 3d?
is it bright enough?

also, i wonder if the fan noise in high lamp setting is too loud.
if everything works out fine, I'm seriously considering it too. smile.gif
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How accurate is the color on the X35? Does not having CMS mean that we won't be able to get accurate color?
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wow, 100 inch kuro!
I wonder if you checked out the 3d?
is it bright enough?
also, i wonder if the fan noise in high lamp setting is too loud.
if everything works out fine, I'm seriously considering it too. smile.gif

I do not have the 3D emitter or glasses yet. They are on the way. So I can't say if it's bright enough yet. But even when I get it, I will only have one 3D Blu-ray to view: Prometheus.

The fan noise in high lamp was slightly louder than my Optoma HD72. If I were to guess, I would put it in the high 20s db. With the projector directly above my head, I don't think it would bother me.


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How accurate is the color on the X35? Does not having CMS mean that we won't be able to get accurate color?

First off, you need to understand who I am: I have no calibration equipment, I have never had my projector (or Kuro) calibrated in the past, and I probably won't. My experience is purely that of an untrained noobish eye. To put that into perspective, I am the kind of person who bought a Kuro instead of a Kuro Elite.

Having said that, right out of the box, by simply setting it to Cinema mode and adjusting the lens aperture to -10, at no point during TDKR did I feel the colour was off. If I were to adjust any other settings, I'm sure it can be even better, but at this point, I haven't a clue of what to try first. For me, not having CMS is ok for the $1200+ that I saved vs the RS48. But I know for purists and more experienced users, CMS would be a necessary feature. So what I'm saying is that the colour was enjoyable ... this is purely subjective. For a more objective review, I would wait for the true reviewers (e.g. Zombie10k) to share their opinions.

But if anyone would care to share any tips or calibration settings, then I would be happy to report the differences to the forum. Thanks for looking.


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Congrats Dragon Man, that is a HUGE difference in size compared to you old Optoma projector. Geez. Let us know what you think of it when you do fire it up!

Huge difference indeed! You can read all the specs you want, but once you get it in front of you, and try lifting it, only then do you realize the size you're dealing with. As a result, I will need to re-evaluate my ceiling mounting construction. I was going to use a 9"x18" piece of 3/4" ply on top of 5/8" ceiling drywall, directly connected to 2 floor joists at each end of the ply. But now ... I may cut out some of the ceiling drywall so I can fit a 2"x8" cross beam between the joists. Then I can have a central point of attachment for the plywood and Chief mount.




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For convergence checking w/o tool, I put on 007 Casino Royale BR with Bond on the Beach scene (nice and bright), then look at either the upper or lower left, where the black bar and the actual movie content line/edge for any colors, other than black or blue (sky or water color). Any extra colors indicate convergence issue.
My understanding that new JVC or Sony should NOT have this issue.
Have fun w/ your new toy.

Unfortunately, I don't have that movie and will have to ask around for it.


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I do not have the 3D emitter or glasses yet. They are on the way. So I can't say if it's bright enough yet. But even when I get it, I will only have one 3D Blu-ray to view: Prometheus.
The fan noise in high lamp was slightly louder than my Optoma HD72. If I were to guess, I would put it in the high 20s db. With the projector directly above my head, I don't think it would bother me.



I thought they include the glasses and emitter with the projector.
guess not.
i just ebayed the glasses and emitter and no one's selling.
projector is out but no glasses available??
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I thought they include the glasses and emitter with the projector.
guess not.
i just ebayed the glasses and emitter and no one's selling.
projector is out but no glasses available??
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I thought they include the glasses and emitter with the projector.
guess not.
i just ebayed the glasses and emitter and no one's selling.
projector is out but no glasses available??

Yes, they are definitely not included in the box. I'm not sure when my glasses and emitter will ship.


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To sum up, I felt like I was watching a 100" version of my Kuro.biggrin.gif

Wow...that is high praise for this unit so far! I am also a kuro owner and hoping that I won't be disappointed in going from an elite plasma to a 100 inch screen with the x35 or x55.
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Huge difference indeed! You can read all the specs you want, but once you get it in front of you, and try lifting it, only then do you realize the size you're dealing with. As a result, I will need to re-evaluate my ceiling mounting construction. I was going to use a 9"x18" piece of 3/4" ply on top of 5/8" ceiling drywall, directly connected to 2 floor joists at each end of the ply. But now ... I may cut out some of the ceiling drywall so I can fit a 2"x8" cross beam between the joists. Then I can have a central point of attachment for the plywood and Chief mount.
Unfortunately, I don't have that movie and will have to ask around for it.

Much easier to just place two layers of 3/4" plywood on the ceiling. Place some trim around the plywood to make it a nice raised panel. Two layers of 3/4" will hold up way more that you need.

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Wow...that is high praise for this unit so far! I am also a kuro owner and hoping that I won't be disappointed in going from an elite plasma to a 100 inch screen with the x35 or x55.

Well, maybe I was exaggerating a little, but not by much I think. Before, there was always a marked difference between watching the Kuro and the Optoma. Now, much much much less so.


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Much easier to just place two layers of 3/4" plywood on the ceiling. Place some trim around the plywood to make it a nice raised panel. Two layers of 3/4" will hold up way more that you need.

Great idea, thanks. It will be a lot less invasive on the ceiling that way too. I'll just have to re-work the current 9"x18" piece that I already finished (trim and painted).


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First measures (by a professional) : http://www.homecinema-fr.com/forum/post177326667.html#p177326667

there is some good info in that post, thanks for posting it here.


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Subscribed. I just got confirmation of my order from Mike today. This will be my first projector. Unfortunately, the theater isn't quite ready for it. This will be incentive to work faster smile.gif

Ditto. I got my RS46 pre-order confirmed yesterday as well. Wonder when it will actually get here? Sometime soon but regardless I have slacked and my room isn't near ready so I need to get my tail into high gear! This is my first projector and I am pretty excited.


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