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post #61 of 88 Old 08-17-2013, 04:53 PM
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Yet another product that is priced based on a comparison with more expensive technology instead of what it actually is.Just because a 100 inch plasma would be more expensive, doesn't mean this completely different technology is worth more.

Any benefit the long life of the laser has is eliminated by a price increase that would let you buy 20 years of projector bulb replacements. Plus, anyone knows that 10 years is enough time to render any technology in need of an update. I have a feeling that this might appeal to someone who likes to stay up to date with the latest gadgets.

The really stupid part is making the screen only work with the Lg projector it comes with so you can't keep the screen when you upgrade. Before you start, you are already better off with a more flexible and upgradable projector screen combo. Plus, if light is your issue and you want a big tv, the 92 inch Mitsubishi is less than a third of the price and by all accounts gives a great pic.

This would have been a great idea at $2500. For $9000 there is a long list of better options. LG, a ceiling mount costs $100. The Hecto doesn't even come with a stand for the projector. Convenience is worth something, it is not $7000 though. One might even prefer a ceiling mount over having the projector on the floor. I have no sympathy for the tv companies complaining about people buying fewer Tv's. how many $9000 projection tv's do they expect to sell???

For half the money I could buy 2 ultra short throw projectors, edge blending software, a pc with gpu to run it and a 200 inch screen.i don't care what a 100 inch plasma costs, this ain't that. You can call a chicken a rolls Royce but that doesn't make it worth $100k.
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Has anyone purchased one of these expensive projectors and if so I would like to know how they have handled the reflection problems on the ceiling that have a height of around 8-9 feet. The problem is here in Australia 98% of our houses have ceilings of 8 foot (2.4M including ours) and since I cannot view one of these projectors at NIGHT as I cannot find anyone that has bought one yet I am worried that the differential in the roof refection between day and night might be a problem. Any comments would be appreciated and if you have one how did you get around this issue.
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Its seems nobody wants to admit they have one yet to answer my question. I know our local Store that has one on display a Salesman told me last week that they have not sold one yet.. Does anyone on this Planet Except for LG have one to answer my question.?
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I own one... The reflections on the celling are not in my view detrimental to enjoying the movie. The reflections are washed out and are low intensity. If there is a strong colour on the screen you may have a "moving cloud" of that particular colour on your celling. I asked my wife and kids, and appart from me no-one had noticed them.

Another question for the group: I'm trying to use a Harmony remote. The Hecto codes are not in the database, so I've had to settle with very mediocre results to have the Harmony learn from the Hecto. This was not 100% accurate when I used the normal LG Hecto remote, and did not work at all when I tried the Hecto Magic Remote (it may be RF). The Harmony remote is brand new (Smart Control). Question is when does Logitech update its database and are there alternative solutions?

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I own one... The reflections on the celling are not in my view detrimental to enjoying the movie. The reflections are washed out and are low intensity. If there is a strong colour on the screen you may have a "moving cloud" of that particular colour on your celling. I asked my wife and kids, and appart from me no-one had noticed them.

Thanks for your reply
I have been doing some digging with these Hecto's and it seems that setting them up is critical. I played with our local store that has one and it seems that they have the screen slightly to low and have used the software to correct this and by using the software excessively to correct this problem it distorts the picture as I tested it with the blu-ray Digital Essentials (calibration disk) that has a good selection of test patterns. there is no doubt about them that those green lines used to set up the screen must be at the edge of the screen with little to none of the adjustments being used. ( ps I took two steel rulers with me one a 3 footer + a tape measure and when I measured everything I found the screen about 12 MM (1/2 inch) to low and to one side.
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I own one... The reflections on the celling are not in my view detrimental to enjoying the movie. The reflections are washed out and are low intensity. If there is a strong colour on the screen you may have a "moving cloud" of that particular colour on your celling. I asked my wife and kids, and appart from me no-one had noticed them.

Good to hear that they are not a concern for most viewers. Curious what you paid and where you bought from. I would like to see one "in action"
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Paid about USD 7500 in Dubai, including install. Install is not perfect, as I had to settle for a decent amount of "edge adjustment". Getting the projector and the screen aligned is a major task - think about 3+ hours of tinkering, while not getting a perfect solution.

However, it's possible - I will give it another go one of these week ends...
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best buy pcs . com Is the URL blocked by AVS because it is a scam site?

"Panasonic TH-103PF12U 103" 1080p HD Plasma Display
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Can you really buy a 103" plasma TV for under 10K or is this a joke? If true, the LG would not seem like such a good deal.
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Getting the projector and the screen aligned is a major task - think about 3+ hours of tinkering, while not getting a perfect solution.

However, it's possible - I will give it another go one of these week ends...

Yes.!
The perfect solution is to have that green line all the way around without using any software adjustments AT ALL!!!. You must have the screen mounts that screw on the wall on a timber plate that allows you to make minor adjustments (MY MODIFICATION) for up (higher screen) and down (lower screen) to peak in for the perfect position otherwise the screen geometry will be wrong "Simple Example of incorrectly set up ones" Whilst watching a blu-ray movie that's in 2.35:1 the black bars up the top and bottom are not linear, in other words those two black bars are either fatter in the middle or skinner on the edge or the other way around.
The Hecto was set up originally by the shops contractor but it was 8MM to high on the left and 11 MM to high on the right. The owner complained and after he pissed off the so called expert that could not align it It took myself and the owner a full day making new brackets that allow for minor adjustments of the screen. There is no problem with the East west Adjustment its the up and down of the screen that is the problem with these units.
By the way the only mistake we made was the cabinet sat on a shag pile thick carpet and it sunk into the carpet only one day later effecting the screen's position so may I suggest for others playing with these Displays to Position correctly the Non castered cabinet (no wheels) and load it with plenty of cement bags if you have any carpet for at least two days.
I said to my wife and Daughter (joking to them) that when we buy our one I will get the girls to sit on either end for a day.
Yes I met this guy in one of our stores that have these Hecto's and he was complaining that the credits/ the moving bar down the bottom whilst watch the BBC News were going downhill then back up hill. I spoke to him and before you know it I was over his house redoing his screen positioning. This is the very first time I've played with one of these Displays and its a VERY GOOD learning curve for when we get ours.
By the way I finished with a string line across the screen on just about all horizontal lines testing using Blu-ray Digital essentials. I got approximately 80% spot on, Not even 1MM out.
PS::::: what the Hecto's software tells you is straight is not necessary straight using the blu-ray Digital essentials. I ended up with a happy medium.
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Yes.!

By the way I finished with a string line across the screen on just about all horizontal lines testing using Blu-ray Digital essentials. I got approximately 80% spot on, Not even 1MM out.
PS::::: what the Hecto's software tells you is straight is not necessary straight using the blu-ray Digital essentials. I ended up with a happy medium.
The owner offered me some money, I refused it, and said to him to enjoy his new toy. I went home with a smile on my face.
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Well I have seen it frown.gif 7999€ for the screen + the hecto and no choice of size or distance frown.gif





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http://www.panasonic.com/business/plasma/TH-103PF12U.asp

Amazon also does not show a price, and the reseller list on the Panasonic website only has industrial resellers.
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One thing I was wondering about was brightness. Given how close the lens is to the screen, it has the potential to be super bright and do well with ambient light. This might get around LED's limitation of not being capable of being a light cannon. The 1,000,000:1 contract rating was also interesting.
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I read two reviews that state you must use exact screen provided by LG.(the hecto screen)

Frys states you can use any screen. Anyone who can offer facts on using different screens?

http://www.frys.com/product/7781478?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG
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I had mine installed yesterday and the reflection is so bad it goes for about a meter long on the ceiling!!! Seriously thinking of returning it if they dont resolve to problem!!! Beautiful quality on the screen itself but that reflection........ only problem now is what to get to replace it that has the same quality!!!  

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Dedicated ht room or living room? Can you paint the ceiling a dark color?

1080p and lossless audio. EVERY BD should have them both.
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I had mine installed yesterday and the reflection is so bad it goes for about a meter long on the ceiling!!! Seriously thinking of returning it if they dont resolve to problem!!! Beautiful quality on the screen itself but that reflection........ only problem now is what to get to replace it that has the same quality!!!  
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Mine is 80% OK now. Do some reading of all the post I have written on this site and the link below About the Hecto with your problem and other problems with these Hecto's when they are set up poorly.
http://www.dtvforum.info/index.php?showtopic=145166&hl=

.http://www.dtvforum.info/index.php?showtopic=146328&hl=
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Wow! Only $4326 at Frys! There has to be some kind of catch. Why so low?
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I have 16' cathedral ceilings. Will i still have reflection? Also how does this do for daylight viewing. I cannot completely black out my living room. That is why I am considering upgrading from the Sony vpl-vw60
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I picked up this projector from Fry's but not the screen (because I didn't have a large enough vehicle at the time). To my surprise, it works quite well on the wall (very bright - watchable in ambient light, good contrast, etc.) and there are no reflections on the ceiling! As such, my plan is ditch the LG reflective screen and look for a fixed matte grey projector screen instead to complete my setup. Much cheaper overall for a great 100 inch system!

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I picked up this projector from Fry's but not the screen (because I didn't have a large enough vehicle at the time). To my surprise, it works quite well on the wall (very bright - watchable in ambient light, good contrast, etc.) and there are no reflections on the ceiling! As such, my plan is ditch the LG reflective screen and look for a fixed matte grey projector screen instead to complete my setup. Much cheaper overall for a great 100 inch system!

You were able to buy it and not pay for the screen?

If you don't mind me asking, how much was that?
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I picked up this projector from Fry's but not the screen (because I didn't have a large enough vehicle at the time). To my surprise, it works quite well on the wall (very bright - watchable in ambient light, good contrast, etc.) and there are no reflections on the ceiling! As such, my plan is ditch the LG reflective screen and look for a fixed matte grey projector screen instead to complete my setup. Much cheaper overall for a great 100 inch system!

Would be great to see some pictures of this used on a wall and then compare those images to a typical fixed projector screen. smile.gif I wonder how this LG would look on a black diamond screen from SI....
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Would be great to see some pictures of this used on a wall and then compare those images to a typical fixed projector screen. smile.gif I wonder how this LG would look on a black diamond screen from SI....

Before I set my one up I tested it on the wall and its ok. I think what you would need is the correct wall color otherwise this could be a problem. Regarding the LG manual they test and calibrate them on a wall. At lease if you use the wall you don't have to be so accurate in setting them up to meet the bezel on the original screen.
Personally the biggest drawback on these Hecto's is the installation's I have seen. One word "APPALLING"
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Would be great to see some pictures of this used on a wall and then compare those images to a typical fixed projector screen. smile.gif I wonder how this LG would look on a black diamond screen from SI....
In the Hecto normal menu you have four positions of mounting the Hecto regarding the screen
1/ Bottom front
2/ Top Front (ceiling)
3/ Bottom Rear (yes behind a special screen)
4/ Top Rear (Same special Screen)

The Hecto also has a 12V Stereo 3.5 mm jack on the rear for actuating an roll up screen.
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Would be great to see some pictures of this used on a wall and then compare those images to a typical fixed projector screen. smile.gif I wonder how this LG would look on a black diamond screen from SI....

If you ever decide to buy one settle for nothing less than what I did because at the end of the day if the maths are out your Picture Quality will be effected and this is where 99% of them fail because they were poorly set up by experts. I put the word out in OZ for anyone to set their up using the screen having the edge Adjust green line following the screen edge and use ZERO on all the eight settings on the Edge adjust.
Use to much Edge Adjust and your PQ goes out the window.
Look at my pics the last group towards the end of this thread.
http://www.dtvforum.info/index.php/topic/146328-hecto-laser-display-using-the-upgraded-sc105-screen/
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Can someone with a Hecto screen try it with a reg projector? How does it look...or does it work at all. I'm not asking cause im just curious but a local store has a screen in house that was left over and it may be mine if LG doesn't want it back. I just want to know if it will work with a front projection unit..benq w1070

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