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post #1 of 90 Old 12-26-2012, 02:40 AM - Thread Starter
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Does anyone know anything about this?

100-inch class LG "HECTO" Laser TV comprises a special screen and an external Ultra Short Throw (UST) projection unit. The unique system, which will be demonstrated for the first time next month at the 2013 International CES®, offers Full HD 1080p resolution and incredible contrast as a result of LG's advanced laser-based illumination system.

LG's Laser TV makes installation and viewing easier by allowing users to place the lens a mere 22 inches from the screen, while having the flexibility to position it near the floor or fasten it to the ceiling. LG's Laser TV offers 1080p Full HD resolution and 1,000,000:1 dynamic contrast ratio

http://www.engadget.com/2012/12/26/lg-hecto-laser-tv-projector-to-debut-at-ces-2013-promises-a-1/#continued

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I looked around and could only find the information you have posted here. I think we'll need to wait for CES.
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I have seen essentially this same unit but non laser lit at several Cedias. Runco sells the unit, I do not remember the model number.

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RUNCO LS100D maybe?
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what about 3D !!
is the screen roll-able !!
ist rear or front screen !!
what about screen size selection !!

i think we just have to wait tongue.gif

i expect the price will be lower then $5k biggrin.gif
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That screen sure looks dark. Interesting if it is very bright and has good native contrast with that "black" screen. I was wondering if one could use their own screen (carada BW or something), but after seeing that screen, probably not. I guess that's why it comes with the screen.....it's "special"!! lol
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I careless about fake "3D". I want a very good to excellent 2D and a fair price in mind.

I wonder how much this new toy will be (and how well, or bad, it will perform).

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CNet states it's a DLP rear projection unit without 3d capabilities. They seem to think it's plenty bright based on the 150nit rating and it comes with LG's smart TV software and their magic remote. Also comes with built in wifi and two speakers.

http://reviews.cnet.com/home-theater-projectors/lg-hecto-laser-projector/4505-7858_7-35558335.html

Update: on second thought, I reread cnet's article and I can't tell if they are stating that it is a rear projection unit or the design came from a rear projection unit.
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some says its a front projection unit biggrin.gif
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The Hecto appears to be a front projector (photo below) that is similar in idea to the Runco (model LS-100D LED/DLP) that Mark mentioned.


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This type of projector isn't new.
http://www.projectorcentral.com/NEC-U310W.htm
http://www.projectorcentral.com/Dell-S500wi.htm
http://www.projectorcentral.com/Hitachi-BZ-1.htm
http://www.projectorcentral.com/Hitachi-CP-A222WN.htm

For example, it allows the image to be rear-projected on the table surface.

The black screen is very interesting indeed. I don't believe 1 000 000:1 number though.
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This type of projector isn't new.
http://www.projectorcentral.com/NEC-U310W.htm
http://www.projectorcentral.com/Dell-S500wi.htm
http://www.projectorcentral.com/Hitachi-BZ-1.htm
http://www.projectorcentral.com/Hitachi-CP-A222WN.htm
For example, it allows the image to be rear-projected on the table surface.
The black screen is very interesting indeed. I don't believe 1 000 000:1 number though.

Even if it is similar to those with a fold-out mirror design, being a laser 1080p unit definitely gives it a new twist...

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Even if it is similar to those with a fold-out mirror design, being a laser 1080p unit definitely gives it a new twist...


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I remember being absolutely intrigued by the Mits LazerVue tv, but saw one in person and there where rainbows EVERYWHERE. I really hope that manufacturers are upping the pulsing rates of these "purely digital" displays (whether it's laser, LED, or a combo of the two, like those casio projectors).

I've even read people see the occasional rainbow on high-end LED's like the runco and vango. The technology is there to theoretically remove ALL these artifacts.
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Rainbows festival can really be a killer. tongue.gif
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That screen sure looks dark. Interesting if it is very bright and has good native contrast with that "black" screen. I was wondering if one could use their own screen (carada BW or something), but after seeing that screen, probably not. I guess that's why it comes with the screen.....it's "special"!! lol

Maybe the screen IS special? Could it be an active? How else can black screen produce whites?
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RUNCO LS100D maybe?

Yes, but let's hope the LG isn't as dim as the Runco. Hopefully the filtering screen will allow it to be used as a TV, no need to sit in a dungeon.

This type of TV has been around for (almost) ever: like the ITT Cinevision 160:



Or like the oldest working TV in the UK: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8159406.stm
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Maybe the screen IS special? Could it be an active? How else can black screen produce whites?
I can't help but wonder if they stole the idea of this screen http://www.avsforum.com/t/1436473/first-active-projector-screen
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LG just announced probably one of the most revolutionary projector in the last decade, and noone seem to care.

Why?

http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/07/lg-hecto/

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it really is nothing new except for the light source.

It will have to be cheap to succeed in the flat panel market because that is this products market. Large flat panel equivalent.
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How is this nothing new? Name another projector that's priced at the retail level that has such throw distance where you can place it directly on tv stand in front of the screen like a tv, removing one of the major bottleneck of projects - mounting and wiring it over long distance from the screen.
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It being done already. The only difference as you mentioned is that is priced at a retail level, and it is laser.
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So what is the price?
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well geez okie if it's already been done...

i personally still feel this is the first mass market appeal projector to achieve the mentioned spec - a major turning point and a step towards the next revolution (unless large screen tvs become cheaper and thinner fast enough to just kill off projectors altogether).
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It being done already. The only difference as you mentioned is that is priced at a retail level, and it is laser.

2 aspects which HAVEN'T been done before. It could be something really special. Let's hope.
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Up to 100" = uninteresting (to me) as a theatre projector, but potentially interesting as a TV replacement. Depending upon quality of course.

I'm intrigued by the screen, which appears from pictures to be black...
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I will stick my neck out and guess this is a laser/phospher hybrid, using .65" DLP and a SI Black DIamond wannabe screen.

Although I hope its more interesting

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The pricing will be key, as will the questions about whether a special screen is needed. Given the ridiculously disappointing developments in large flat panels (way too much money for too little performance), I'm pretty intrigued by this.

There is no difference in HDMI cables. If you can see the picture without visible dropouts or sparklies, the cable is working at 100%. No other cable will display a better version of that picture. You're simply wrong if you think there is a better digital cable than one that is already working. (Oh, and plasma didn't die because of logistics problems, nor does OLED ship in big boxes because it comes from Korea.)
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So what is the price?

I'm guessing expensive, otherwise they would have put it out there.
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I'm guessing expensive, otherwise they would have put it out there.

It's around $8,200 USD in Korea.
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