Originally Posted by DigitalKnight
I am also looking at upgrading my Sony VLP-VW60 to a 3D projector and the Epson 6020 is high on my list but if the Sony 50ES is better I would like to hear more about it. Anyone do a direct A/B side-by-side of the two?
Will 3D work on a curved screen? I have a 130" 2.40 steward Studio-Tec 1.3 gain curved screen and use a anamorphic lens at all times.
I have put the 6020 and the 50es stacked on top of each other. Both connected hdmi at the same time using a peice of card board to block one and see the other. This is what I saw with these 2 pituclar pj.
I did no calabration with a disk,,,,,, I tweeked to the source at the same time with the same picture. Some times exzaggrating some settings at times to test the limit to make sure like when testing blacks.
Blacks in mixed content like a dark movie the 50 wins no settings will change that with either projector. The bright areas are brighter and the dark areas are blacker.
On the other hand if you have a black background with white letters ie credits rolling the 6020 wins and no setting will change that. As soon as the white words come up the iris will open too much on the sony. But some white object in mixed comtent like friday the 13 it does not excibit that behavor and keeps the iris more closed. Sony beats the 6020 for actule content.
Sharpness rc set on and minum and sharpness set to 0,,,, the sony is shaper that the ep with the sharp and advance sharp you (must choose).and the super resulation maxed. The sony can only get sharper and it can get too nosie real quick but its never too much with those settings at 0. I run with a little of both most of the time. DirecT can look pretty bad cause u can see the crap in the signal. BUT put on a blueray and WOW clean sharpness . Fantasic. The ep just can not compete here. no matter the setting,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,On the other hand in white parts the ep can look sharper at times. I did some studing with this and I think it has to do with the pixiel structer being bigger than the sony. Example on a crowd of people and a distance shot. a persons head was small. Upon close examintion it became clear that the pixel structer of the ep was apperent and looked bigger but more distored. The same image apperead smaller and more closely grouped togther. (almost no pixel structher visable) and there for more correct and sharper although hard to see the difference from a seated posion at 10 ft from a 106 screen. The pixels giving an impression(fasley) of a sharper image. however 90 percent of the time the sony is just sharper period.
The epson can get brighter but the color goes toward green and its easy to wash out whites using the contrast.Leaving the contrast in center default and the sony on 90 they appear to be the same brightness to the eye. but the sony will mantain its color better. not so much a changing of the gray scale toward green.
They both look excelent and if not side by side I doubt you would miss the other but side by side it becomes apparent, The sony just has a sharper cleaner with slightly more pop in bright pictures and defenitaly more pop with darker pictures. No settings can chang that.
Keep in mind that they both can vary from projector to projector. This is just the 2 I had acess to. The convergence was adjusted on both although nither was very far out but both neede a little tweek.
Purity was good on both at different levels of brightness. color temp was adjusted on both .
before i forget 3d
The 6020 does not do fi in 3d. the sony does. Is it noticeable. YES very much so. the 6020 jitters although not to bad, the sony can be buttery smooth if u want and jittery if you want. Me I like smooth clear.
EP can not do it. Gosting they both can have some no matter the source, the source has a tranmdous effect of 3d. period. dt kinda sucks no matter what u do and fi is not avibael with the sony with dt 3d. dont know why. They both look like poopie on dt.
ps3 now thats a hold different kettke of fish. again the sony excells in sharpness. the ep also disables there advance sharpness settings along with the super resulation. gosting i thnk the ep si slightley worse. there close either is good here. about the same.
Converting to 3d. The sony wins here. fi is back using dt. for some reason although not quite as smooth as when using ps3 with the fi..(source) The sony apperes deeper with less gosting. Things are in better perportion. With the ep using the dir tv guide the bottom of the pix will look close to the screen and as it goes to the top it gets further back and deeper. looks like a stair case to the middle of the screen then looks the same the rest of the way to the top. This also has that effect in the normal picture. The sony can do converision very good and very sharp. Brightness comes across about the same to me. The sony will look deeper over all. i have yet to see a pop out using converison.including the 3d bee diamond. the sony imo converts better than the bee. at least just as good.
These are my impressions and i am just joe smoe so take it for what its worth to you.
this testing also used high and low lamp settings full and limited iris on the sony and levle 1 and 2 with the ep. For got what they call it. all settings in all places were explored to there depth and used.