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I am going to have fun doing my comparison between my 4 projectors when my 49 gets here. I got the DPI LED, Mit HC8000, RS15, and now the RS49. I'm going to have a lot of calibrating to do. I'm thinking about getting a eeColor to run a 3375pt lux on all 4 since I run all my processing through my Oppo 103D.

Why did you get a Mits hc8000, got a good price on it?
I wish you had a Benq w7000 to compare to the hc8000 to tell me how much difference in sharpness per the focus uniformity, if I can get the hc7900 in here to use as a HTPC monitor for a bit, but worried about sharpness...
I am pretty sure the hc7900 or hc8000 isn't sharp enough for my preferences to use as a monitor, only the Benq really handles that task thus far (well the JVC is good enough but not going to run the hours up like that).


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I got the HC8000 just for 3D. I could have got the 7900 but I wanted to see how the better contrast would be. I think the PQ is much better than the W7000. Since I'm not using a HP screen, I wasn't worried about the mounting of the projector. Also, 3D is much better than the Benq. I get much better contrast in 3d than dlp link and I actually watched some movies with the 2D to 3D conversion. I can use my rf glasses with my jvc, which is good since I don't have to worry about buying different glasses for different projectors. I think the HC8000 is more of a HT projector than the W7000. I can't really say which one is sharper
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What 3D glasses are compatbile with the hc7900, and what am I losing compared to the hc8000 other than some black level?


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What 3D glasses are compatbile with the hc7900, and what am I losing compared to the hc8000 other than some black level?

Deja Vu actually really like the Mits and he bought the Sharp 3000, 7900, and 8000. He really likes the Mits 2D-3D conversion. I got it first and told him about it. He said that they are similar, but for $500 I would get the projector with the better contrast. Plus, I love the fade to blacks, its really good in 3D. I am using the Estar RF glasses. I had to make a cable to get it to work. The Estar emitter and glasses are $65, then about $50 for additional pairs. I don't know about the 7900 but the 8000 came with an extra bulb. I am not a 3D fan, but I have been watching everything in 3D lately. Pacific RIm, Man of Steel, Gravity, and Thor was all watched in 3D with some guess. Recently, I watched Fast and Furious 6 and Elysium in 3D, it was really good. Very surprised at how it looks.
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I hear you.
It appears the hc8000 is $700 more over the hc7900dw and that is comparing buying the hc8000 on Ebay new vs. buying the hc7900 from a major authorized dealer.
The hc8000 refurb is $600 more over the hc7900dw.

I think I will just grab the hc7900dw and sell it if the RBE is too much (maybe).
I doubt I will lose more than $100 on this one, of course I keep saying that and never do end up selling a projector, I have bad luck.


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I just bought it for $799, but will not be here until next week because I was too cheap to pay $20 extra in shipping :P
I put it on my Signature United Visa to get the extra 1 year warranty, but now that I think about it, maybe Discover or Amex had better warranty and I should have used one of my other cards.

Oh well, I know all three of my CC's offer extended warranties now, but some difference I think.


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I just bought it for $799, but will not be here until next week because I was too cheap to pay $20 extra in shipping :P

Let us know how you like it. For $800, I think its a good projector for the money. I think you are going to prefer IR/RF glasses over DLP Link
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Yah I do prefer RF/IR glasses over DLP link.


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When you're talking on this forum, it's best to know the difference. After all this is AVScience Forum. Plus, you're an installer. You should know the difference as it's part of what you sell and do for a living. I'd be pretty pissed if I was the customer and knew more about the topic than you did.
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I just bought it for $799, but will not be here until next week because I was too cheap to pay $20 extra in shipping :P
I put it on my Signature United Visa to get the extra 1 year warranty, but now that I think about it, maybe Discover or Amex had better warranty and I should have used one of my other cards.

Haha, oh well, I know all three of my CC's offer extended warranties now, but some difference I think.

For $799 it's the best PQ one can get these days from a new in box projector with a full warranty. I think you'll be pleased. I'm sure the HC8000 has better contrast due to the extra adjustable iris.

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i don't think the extra hc8000 contrast was worth it to me as that's not what I bought it for, plus I'm not sure the difference is that big, we are talking DLP's here and they both have DI's.

The hc7900dw was slightly brighter and otherwise basically identical, so looks like a better deal. Was not about to spend $1600 on a projector I might not even keep.


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For some reason I wasn't that impressed by the HC8000. The lack of hp friendly setup was a deal breaker for my setup.

I use the heck out my 30k on a daily basis. Fast boot up time and dirt cheap lamps
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What about the Mits 3d Glasses, were they any good?
I cannot recall even though I remember reading your reviews.

Debating if I should pay the extra $70 to get the emitter and glasses.

I expect to get 1.2 to 1.4 gain (hard to calculate exactly), but I have the 2.4 HP screen which has a wider gain radius. At 1.3 gain it's going to be VERY bright, the hc7900dw is slightly brighter than the hc8000 (though not by much). Art got 1100 lumens in brightest mode and around 700 in best mode on lamp high.

I am using a Benq w7000 with over 7000 hours on the lamp and it's still bright enough (bit dim in 3D now though). I only have a 106" HP screen...


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The high contrast mits glasses were ok but the lenses were too small for my preferences.

Sharp G20 FTW.... still my favorite so far
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For some reason I wasn't that impressed by the HC8000. The lack of hp friendly setup was a deal breaker for my setup.

I use the heck out my 30k on a daily basis. Fast boot up time and dirt cheap lamps

Yeah, the lens offset was kind of a pain in the neck. Plus the wire splicing needed to make the EStar emitter work was a small hassle too.

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The Mits uses one of the most common lamps, they are like $100 on ebay. It's one of the Osram lamps.
No problems with Offset here, 10" is about the min for my screen size but I'll probably use 13.5" or so.


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I wasn't even planning on buying another projector, but at $799 that was the best deal on a PJ I've seen probably EVER. Only deal that can compare was when I saw the Sharp for $1499 (too bad I missed that one). SO I figured what am I going to lose, maybe $100 at most. A DLP with lens shift, DI, full CMS, and probably around 2000:1 native on/off for $799, now that's cheap. And I got a 3-yr warranty on it with the CC.

It was either that or buy another Benq lamp, I figured what the heck, spend an extra $600 and I just try a different projector entirely. I will probably only get 1000 - 2000 hours out of these lamps given how dim it starts out, but the replacements are dirt cheap. I doubt I will use this as my main PJ, might replace my Viewsonic in my spare room. I need to buy a new TV (just don't feel like doing the dual setup junk), because guests that come over think I'm in the wrong business with all these projectors everywhere.

Lately I've just been watching the TV series Justified, it's a good show (though quite silly),


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I was making fun of my self....
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I wasn't even planning on buying another projector, but at $799 that was the best deal on a PJ I've seen probably EVER. Only deal that can compare was when I saw the Sharp for $1499 (too bad I missed that one). SO I figured what am I going to lose, maybe $100 at most. A DLP with lens shift, DI, full CMS, and probably around 2000:1 native on/off for $799, now that's cheap. And I got a 3-yr warranty on it with the CC.

It was either that or buy another Benq lamp, I figured what the heck, spend an extra $600 and I just try a different projector entirely. I will probably only get 1000 - 2000 hours out of these lamps given how dim it starts out, but the replacements are dirt cheap. I doubt I will use this as my main PJ, might replace my Viewsonic in my spare room. I need to buy a new TV (just don't feel like doing the dual setup junk), because guests that come over think I'm in the wrong business with all these projectors everywhere.

Lately I've just been watching the TV series Justified, it's a good show (though quite silly),

I got my NuVision ProVu P2 for $725 (plus a free short throw lens that retails for $999) and sold the projector for $4500 and kept the short throw lens. Best deal I've got so far biggrin.gif

For what you want to do with the Mitsubishi I think it will fit your needs well.

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Yah well those are flea-bay deals and you spent a lot of time messing with that stuff. Anyhow, a lot of that stuff is stolen, a lot more than people know.


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That unit came from a dealer. Plus I had it go back to Vivitek in CA for repair. I'm sure Vivitek would have notified me if the unit had been reported as stolen. It must have taken a tumble during shipment as one of the boards had an issue. Vivitek is the one who gave me the short throw lens for free as the model number dictated that was what it should've had from the factory.

I heard rumors that Vivitek was planning on releasing another LED unit. I hope it will be close to the price point of this HD91. We'll see...

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What about the Mits 3d Glasses, were they any good?
I cannot recall even though I remember reading your reviews.

These glasses were nearly black when turned off. Pretty cool, but when on, didn't seem to make any obvious difference vs. other glasses

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Sharp glasses - love these glasses. G20, G10 (store in the closet, too bulky) and the G30 at the bottom, great for kids and small faces. The 2D switch is a nice feature.

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I also like the Optoma RF glasses that shipped with the HD91.
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That unit came from a dealer. Plus I had it go back to Vivitek in CA for repair. I'm sure Vivitek would have notified me if the unit had been reported as stolen. It must have taken a tumble during shipment as one of the boards had an issue. Vivitek is the one who gave me the short throw lens for free as the model number dictated that was what it should've had from the factory.

I heard rumors that Vivitek was planning on releasing another LED unit. I hope it will be close to the price point of this HD91. We'll see...

I just meant Ebay in general, not the specific PJ you bought. Anyhow, I agree there are occasionally some mind-blowing deals to be found on Ebay, but they are also heavily camped lately. I've got so many projects that I'm behind on, don't even have time for the hunt atm.

Need to finish PJ Calculator (I'm shooting myself for this one, just never find time lately). Have about 250,000 images left to remaster for this project, still needing to move out of state to start a new project but it cannot start until I finish this one. I'm writing my own remastering software because none of the software will let me put the images in the appropriate perspective. Actually I'm sure something would, but after trying 20 different apps I decided to do it myself. Just simple internal-use application that changes HSL, gamma, and other stuff. It's not like a huge undertaking, but somewhat of a big app for 2 people to do.

So busy lately.


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I come to this thread hoping to learn a bit more about the new OPTOMA HD91.

Gosh, was I disappointed with all the irrelevance about the mits, jvc, vivitek and what have we.

Guys, I am sure they can all go into their own respective threads and leave this simply for the HD91?
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The reason it happens like that sometimes is because when in threads with some relatively low activity, we often pick threads for side talk, and this just happens to be the one. We wouldn't do it in the SOny or JVC thread (but this is more of an informal thread with low activity), so the people that had the information I needed happened to be watching this thread, hence this was also not a very important thread for a little side-talk to pollute because there was nothing going on really (not many people own this PJ Yet). I realized it was off-topic, but I didn't plan to make that many posts about the Mits in here anyhow, was a spare of the moment, on the whim kind of order.

If we don't post something, the thread just dies anyhow since comparisons and info are just now coming in maybe.


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Or because no one wants to buy this projector. tongue.gif

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You do make a good point. At least the posts will keep this thread towards to the top of the first page. It will probably get more attention this way and maybe some perspective buyers.

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I'm not expecting image quality to be on the same level as my X90. I'm not naive enough to think it will look that good, but I'm more curious to see how it looks in comparison to the PD8150. It seems that, other than absolute color performance, the Z30K is probably the only under $8000 single chip DLP projector that can come close to the overall PQ of that unit. If it's close enough for 2D, and 3D also looks excellent, who knows I may keep it. If not, no loss to me. I'll sell it, get my money back, and then move on to the next projector to test out. smile.gif

My Z30K can hang with my X500 in bright scenes. In dark scenes obviously there's no contest but the Z30K still does a decent job. The Z30K is sharper, has better motion, and a bit more natural looking than the X500. I would not give up the Z30K for the X500. I also had the LS-3 for few days and it was even nicer than the Z30K due to better sharpness, better/ more saturated colors, and better contrast/ blacks; however the throw was too long for my room.
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