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Hello! I normally lurk in the audio section and am inexperienced on the projector side of things. I currently have a 60" plasma and have decided it is time to upgrade the display. I have several strange requirements....

- Budget for projector and screen + install is approximately $5000
- Love the idea of 2.35:1 for movies so would prefer projector to have POWERED ZOOM FOR AND MEMORY SETTING FOR 2.35:1
- 50% gaming, 40% movies, 10% "other" (mainly listening to music through the Apple TV)
- Must be good with gaming latency/lag issue
- I do have a dedicated basement that is light controlled, but do occassionally allow ambient light from windows in during the day. Room width is about 15' and seating distance is somewhat flexible as room is approx 22'
long. First row "head" position will be approximately 13' away. I have first row of 3 dedicated theater seats and the back row of 2 are on order. Second row will be on riser. Viewing angles should not be too extreme.
- I am not overly concerned with 3D. It would be a nice bonus, but it is not the priority.

I would like to keep the plasma for daytime viewing or "Apple TV" music listening. I have plans to mount this on the wall and add automatic drop down SCREENS for gaming and movie watching. I am considering 2 screens (one for gaming/16:9 and one for cinemascope/2.35:1. Is this necessary? I like the idea of no black bars either way. I am considering this automatic screen system....http://www.elitescreens.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=15&catid=1&Itemid=19&lang=en
Screen sizes would most likely be 117" diagonal for 2.35:1 and 94" for 16:9 if I went with this system.

So...after reading through the forums here are the projectors on my short list so far....

1. Panasonic PT-AE8000
2. Sharp XV-Z300000 (sounds like street price has dropped considerably)
3. JVC DLA-X35B

Basic questions would be:

1. What projector would be best for gaming and fast motion and still do a great job for movies?
2. I care about sharpness, brightness, motion, and black levels - what would be the best overall projector? (I realize Sony may be best answer to this question but it DOES NOT HAVE POWERED ZOOM)
3. Are there other projectors with this powered zoom feature I am missing?
4. Is it beneficial to have 2 dedicated screens - 1 for each format?
5. Should I just ditch the plasma, permanently mount a big 16:9 screen, and have the 2.35:1 drop down for movies?

I greatly thank everyone for their suggestions and advice in advance as I have a steep learning curve in this area!

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One addition to your list:
4. Sony VW95ES

It's more expensive, but if you can stretch your budget, that's the winner in my opinion.
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One addition to your list:
4. Sony VW95ES

It's more expensive, but if you can stretch your budget, that's the winner in my opinion.

I agree that looks very, very good but is a good bit over my target budget when screen and install are added. I could stretch, but I want to keep the initial investment low as my hope is to upgrade again once 4K (or the next best thing) comes into play. Given my track record in audio, I am guaranteed to upgrade often so I want to keep things within budget. It is too bad the HW50ES does not have the powered zoom as it would make this decision much easier. I am also glad you mentioned it because there does not seem to be a simple way to determine which brands and models have the powered zoom. A thread like this will hopefully be a nice resource as it is built out with the different powered zoom options. I have spent lots of time on the internet doing research and am still unsure if I missing some options.

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I do not believe you could go wrong with the JVC. I had the RS20 and the overall picture was terrific. The X35 will just be better. I am a contrast freak, however, so JVC is almost always going to get my vote. smile.gif

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50% gaming? As much as I love my RS45 and RS40/RS1 before it for 2d movies, with a 50% gaming use I would lean toward something with lower lag. The JVCs are ~80ms of lag which is on the high side for someone who plans to use their projector for gaming 50% of the time. I would try to stretch my budget if I were you and get the Sony HW50 which will still be great for movies, very good 3d from reports and great for gaming with the low lag.

EDIT: It looks like you want the powered lens which the 50 does not have. Maybe the 95 in that case if you are willing to swing it or if you cant I think I would even lean toward the Panny 8000 and its low lag in light of your 50% gaming needs over a JVC.

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Ya, I play some games on my JVC with the PS3 but I am not an avid gamer at all so I'd lean towards Toe's advice...he likely has more gaming time in than I do. I have not noticed significant lag, but that probably says something about my gamer status. smile.gif

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Ya, I play some games on my JVC with the PS3 but I am not an avid gamer at all so I'd lean towards Toe's advice...he likely has more gaming time in than I do. I have not noticed significant lag, but that probably says something about my gamer status. smile.gif

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I know, I play on my xbox and ps3 far too much. I can't wait to game on the big screen! If I get a laggy projector, I'd at least have an excuse for getting killed to often!smile.gif Yes, if the Panny has better latency/shorter lags then I will definitely be leaning in that direction. What about DLP with sharpness and motion? Would that also fit the bill? And what about having two separate screens for the different formats?

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