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I am building a new house and intend to use a projector and retractable screen in lieu of a flat screen for design reasons. My main concern is whether this is a reasonable setup to use during the day or with some lights on in room. My installer is saying it will be fine as long as I use a very bright projector. Would like to get everyone's thoughts and recommendations. Thanks.
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A bright projector and a black screen:
http://www.cine4home.de/Specials/Tageslichtprojektion/BlackScreen.htm
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If you want to watch stuff like CNN and golf, then it will be OK for daytime viewing. But programs with any dark scenes at all will be unwatchable with any significant amount of sunlight. Even if you get yourself a 10,000 lumen projector it won't help. The problem is that the darkest part of the picture can not be any darker than the ambient light in the room. So if you have a ton of ambient light the dark parts of the picture will look white or at best light grey and not black.

A black screen or something like the da-lite high-power are designed to reduce the effects of ambient light by reflecting it somewhere other than into your eyes, but they can only do so much.

The other problem with a super-bright projector is that typically they don't look good with the lights turned down, the market is bifurcated - bright projectors for business uses like powerpoint presentations, stuff that doesn't have dark parts of the picture and home-theater projectors that are much less bright but much better at showing shadow details. So even if you get something that is passable in a bright room, it will look like a cheap tv when it comes time to watch a movie at night.

Maybe you could figure out a way to hang an LCD tv such that it could "flip up" and lay flat against the ceiling when not in use. Or go with motorized black-out blinds for your windows, so you can make the room dark with the push of a button even when it is the middle of the day . That is the route I took to make a 120" screen work in my living room with 8 big picture windows.

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I am building a new house and intend to use a projector and retractable screen in lieu of a flat screen for design reasons. My main concern is whether this is a reasonable setup to use during the day or with some lights on in room. My installer is saying it will be fine as long as I use a very bright projector. Would like to get everyone's thoughts and recommendations. Thanks.

I had a Sony VW90ES PJ in a bright living room. Looked great for daytime viewing. Picture window and side window. If it is too bright you can always purchase BALI blinds they work excellent.

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I know this is an old post but do you mind sharing details of your set up? I have a bright living room as well and I'm thinking on buying some sort of black out Blinds but I dont which ones.

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If you want to watch stuff like CNN and golf, then it will be OK for daytime viewing. But programs with any dark scenes at all will be unwatchable with any significant amount of sunlight. Even if you get yourself a 10,000 lumen projector it won't help. The problem is that the darkest part of the picture can not be any darker than the ambient light in the room. So if you have a ton of ambient light the dark parts of the picture will look white or at best light grey and not black.

A black screen or something like the da-lite high-power are designed to reduce the effects of ambient light by reflecting it somewhere other than into your eyes, but they can only do so much.

The other problem with a super-bright projector is that typically they don't look good with the lights turned down, the market is bifurcated - bright projectors for business uses like powerpoint presentations, stuff that doesn't have dark parts of the picture and home-theater projectors that are much less bright but much better at showing shadow details. So even if you get something that is passable in a bright room, it will look like a cheap tv when it comes time to watch a movie at night.

Maybe you could figure out a way to hang an LCD tv such that it could "flip up" and lay flat against the ceiling when not in use. Or go with motorized black-out blinds for your windows, so you can make the room dark with the push of a button even when it is the middle of the day . That is the route I took to make a 120" screen work in my living room with 8 big picture windows.
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For an application like this, consider the Black Diamond screens from screen innovations. I haven't seen them in person, but this is what they were made for.
My Sony 95ES with DaLite high power screen is watchable with lights on, but much inferior to a darkened room.
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I know this is an old post but do you mind sharing details of your set up? I have a bright living room as well and I'm thinking on buying some sort of black out Blinds but I dont which ones.
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