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This seems to best the best material around and is extremely cost effective especially if one could score say a 40% off coupon. Maybe I should remove the extremely, you think? Its a lot cheaper than a sq ft of luxury high rise in NYC. The problem though it is not at all abrasion resistant and has a do not touch warning on the specifications.
money is no object to ensure that my room will be darker than yours. (remember you instigated this 2 years ago..)

I'm going 1 step further and working with NASA on their new carbon nano-tube material. The application seems straight forward enough. All we have to do to grow the material is apply a catalyst later of iron to an underlayer on the silicon substrate. Then we have to heat the material to 750° C (1,382° F). While heating, the material has to be bathed in a carbon-containing feedstock gas.

simple! I should have it done by end of day once i'm done installing the blast furnace.

i'm naming the room 'The Black Hole' after the somewhat disturbing Disney flick from 1979 that caused nightmares as a child in the 70's.


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Overall, I have been very happy with the Rosco velour black as I used it for my entire room (aside from some Protostar on the sidewalls near screen to soak in glare).
David hi, I remember you discussing this recently. Did you apply it yourself? I was reading about it in this thread:

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I'm thinking of hanging my treatments from the ceiling, and then getting some strips of velvet to attach to the ceiling for the areas that are visable around the sound treatment panels... I figure this will cost less and be easier to do than covering the whole ceiling with velvet.

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I'm going 1 step further and working with NASA on their new carbon nano-tube material. The application seems straight forward enough. All we have to do to grow the material is apply a catalyst later of iron to an underlayer on the silicon substrate. Then we have to heat the material to 750° C (1,382° F). While heating, the material has to be bathed in a carbon-containing feedstock gas.

simple! I should have it done by end of day once i'm done installing the blast furnace.

i'm naming the room 'The Black Hole' after the somewhat disturbing Disney flick from 1979 that caused nightmares as a child in the 70's.
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It takes OCD to a new dimension. I always thought there was a limit.

There is no limit in home theater. BTW, that Disney movie was just disturbingly bad !
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Limits as to what one can achieve are self imposed.

OK. i want to see one of you guys make the Guinness Book of World Records for having the most non reflective home theater.

Yes Zombie. When I first saw your home theater I could only imagine it as being akin to a Klu Klux Clan meeting. Talking about white. As you remember, I threatened to come up the nest week with some black paint.

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I didn't like where I put the lights so I decided to move it. I figured why not start with the velvet now since I had to cut a hole for the light and didn't want to do it twice. 1 down, 49 to go.



@ mark - those days are done!!

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Thanks for the link to the JoAnn's coupon, just bought my last bit of velvet to make wall and ceiling panels.

One question. If you cover the first 5-6 feet in velvet panels, how do you knock out the first reflection point of the speakers? Is anyone hanging acoustic panels over velvet?
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Thanks for the link to the JoAnn's coupon, just bought my last bit of velvet to make wall and ceiling panels.

One question. If you cover the first 5-6 feet in velvet panels, how do you knock out the first reflection point of the speakers? Is anyone hanging acoustic panels over velvet?
What I am thinking of doing is hang the acoustic panels and then attach velvet to the ceiling in the gaps (plus an inch or two overlap).

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From my sitting area forward, but minus the floor I am pure velvet, not sure I can get any darker. My carpet is dark but I am considering placing velvet on the floor for Sci Fi watching.Once you get on the velvet train there is no turning back, I suspect eventually I will blind myself trying to attach velvet to the whites of my eyes.
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Damn. Must be bloomin awesome watching movies in there. Can only imagine what Gravity must be like.
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Damn. Must be bloomin awesome watching movies in there. Can only imagine what Gravity must be like.

It is amazing using a JVC RS4910. I viewed it in 3D and could not believe the blacks.
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One's brain will degrade to a point of being a blithering idiot if one watches Gravity more than twice. Once was my limit. I suppose for test purposes but my limit was once. If I had to choose between watching it and watching Say Yes to the Dress with my wife I'd watch Say Yes to the Dress. Have I been clear enough?

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It's such a pretty film though. With a wonderful soundtrack/effects.
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David hi, I remember you discussing this recently. Did you apply it yourself? I was reading about it in this thread:

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I hired a painter to do it, but I ended up doing some touch-ups here and there including using a roller and a brush (and I've never painted before). It's very easy to do and I surely could have done the entire room myself albeit it would have taken me a bit longer.

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So, with all of the talk of how good the velvet works, is it worth velveting over my Protostar material? Protostar seems to do a good enough job soaking up sidewall reflections from my Stewart ST100 (as the blacks and contrast are just outstanding paired with my RS4810), but just wondering.
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This discussion is a little one sided so I will throw this out there: my screen wall and soffit is a very dark grey/green and the walls are a color called "artichoke". It made a huge improvement. And there really is minimal light spill. It makes for a very immersive environment and yet is a livable space with the lights on.

So if you don't want to go all out you can still get great benefits by darkening around the screen wall.
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This discussion is a little one sided so I will throw this out there: my screen wall and soffit is a very dark grey/green and the walls are a color called "artichoke". It made a huge improvement. And there really is minimal light spill. It makes for a very immersive environment and yet is a livable space with the lights on.

So if you don't want to go all out you can still get great benefits by darkening around the screen wall.
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One's brain will degrade to a point of being a blithering idiot if one watches Gravity more than twice. Once was my limit. I suppose for test purposes but my limit was once. If I had to choose between watching it and watching Say Yes to the Dress with my wife I'd watch Say Yes to the Dress. Have I been clear enough?
I agree Mark Gravity is hard to watch more than twice. Once was also my limit. I played it for friends and did something else but did view some of those dark scenes again. Next I will try Sin City or scenes from Skyfall to demonstrate blacks.
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I agree Mark Gravity is hard to watch more than twice. Once was also my limit. I played it for friends and did something else but did view some of those dark scenes again. Next I will try Sin City or scenes from Skyfall to demonstrate blacks.
Sin City looks great.

However, I watched Hellboy II on Blu-ray last night and have to say that is definitely a demo disc for blacks and overall PQ. (Fun movie too.)
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However, I watched Hellboy II on Blu-ray last night and have to say that is definitely a demo disc for blacks and overall PQ. (Fun movie too.)
No doubt AND it's a reference audio as well including one of the best bass/LFE tracks on blu.
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I agree Mark Gravity is hard to watch more than twice. Once was also my limit. I played it for friends and did something else but did view some of those dark scenes again. Next I will try Sin City or scenes from Skyfall to demonstrate blacks.
Weird, I find it just the opposite. I can watch Gravity any time and get sucked right into it.
And yet for Sin City, despite having had the movie in my collection for years, I've never been able to even get through 20 minutes. Just not my thing I guess. Kinda Lords Of The Ringy in that way. Elfin creatures and men with long beards waving staffs either set you tingling, or they don't, and with me they don't.

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Game of Thrones on BD is very good for reference material. That show must cost a fortune to produce.

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Weird, I find it just the opposite. I can watch Gravity any time and get sucked right into it.
And yet for Sin City, despite having had the movie in my collection for years, I've never been able to even get through 20 minutes. Just not my thing I guess. Kinda Lords Of The Ringy in that way. Elfin creatures and men with long beards waving staffs either set you tingling, or they don't, and with me they don't.

I haven't watched Gravity a 2nd time yet, but I will. Well made movie I thought. I also love Sin City and watched that at least 5 times so far. What I won't do ( ever ) is waste my time watching sports, other than the Winter Olympics, and a bit of the Tour de France. To each his own.

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I didn't like where I put the lights so I decided to move it. I figured why not start with the velvet now since I had to cut a hole for the light and didn't want to do it twice. 1 down, 49 to go.



@ mark - those days are done!!

You definitely need to wrap the center speaker with velvet.

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Oh, I will. I just don't want to put it in and then turn right around and tear part of it out. I have done that enough. Less than a year ago, that I redid my front wall and now, as soon as my custom drivers show up, I am tearing it out again to completely re-work it again.
Furring strips are cheap. Hang each 2'x4' panel with string. That's what I'm doing once I can convince the wife to let me spend the $900 for the strips and fabric. The hard part is the time to make the panels.
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These panels might work. You should order a swatch of material. I am using them with no problem and the prices are good.



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I ordered two of their Executive panels and they are a great bang for the buck. Not as nice of my older panels since the fabric is stretched and stapled on the back. Along with the "stuffing" appears to be rather loose and allows for minor bumps and indentations. My others are glued and the "stuffing" is molded into one piece. Now if my lights didn't shoot straight down the wall it wouldn't be very noticeable.
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I ordered two of their Executive panels and they are a great bang for the buck. Not as nice of my older panels since the fabric is stretched and stapled on the back. Along with the "stuffing" appears to be rather loose and allows for minor bumps and indentations. My others are glued and the "stuffing" is molded into one piece. Now if my lights didn't shoot straight down the wall it wouldn't be very noticeable.
They look very nice and they work well. They often offer several different options for the stuffing. Hope it will be possible to refocus your lights.
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We all love and respect R. Harkness. We have spoken several times. However after his gravity comment, I may have to organize an intervention. I can just see trying to cross the border with my passport and saying my entry is to conduct an AV Science intervention.

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Well all love and respect R. Harkness. We have spoken several times. However after his gravity comment, I may have to organize an intervention. I can just see trying to cross the border with my passport and saying my entry is to conduct an AV Science intervention.
Given the alarming number of people desiring to regularly sit through 3 hours of hobbits running around, we have a much larger societal issue to deal with first.

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