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post #181 of 2128 Old 06-20-2013, 11:43 PM
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Btw I find the thick wool carpets from Nourison to be very non reflective. An option instead of using a black carpet...

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How does the Black Plush Triple Velvet from Sy Fabrics compare to Fidelio or other variants? The price is right at only $7.50/yd. I checked out JoAnn Fabrics today, but the cheaper velvet was $15/yd (except for the stretch variety, but I'd have to paint my white walls to use it after I take down the other dark treatments - too transparent). Anyone know how to get hold of one of those 50% off JoAnn coupons?
I think you can buy a magazine at the counter that has a coupon in it. Otherwise they generally have them on the homepage of their website.
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I think you can buy a magazine at the counter that has a coupon in it. Otherwise they generally have them on the homepage of their website.

That's what I did, just printed off a coupon from their website & got the black velvet for $7.50 /yard. biggrin.gif

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Hey guys, I started a new home theater build downstairs and am wondering if I really need to paint the walls or if they are dark enough already.
I will have a black drop ceiling installed to replace the white one you see now. I am also going to paint the white door black as well as buy a large black rug to go beneath the screen.

I am using a Dragonfly 120 inch 1.2 gain screen and the Sony VPL-HW50ES projector.



This is the wall I want to mount the screen to.

Should that give me a decent enough improvement right and help my contrast?
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what you plan to do is good, but darker is always better. it's up to you to decide what's good enough, and how dark you can live with. not many ppl have completely black rooms because it's not very nice when the lights are on.

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Man O Man, this Protostar stuff is fun !! I'm not covering the entire room, just using it strategically to eliminate certain reflection points.

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Hey guys, I started a new home theater build downstairs and am wondering if I really need to paint the walls or if they are dark enough already.
I will have a black drop ceiling installed to replace the white one you see now. I am also going to paint the white door black as well as buy a large black rug to go beneath the screen.

I am using a Dragonfly 120 inch 1.2 gain screen and the Sony VPL-HW50ES projector.



This is the wall I want to mount the screen to.

Should that give me a decent enough improvement right and help my contrast?

No. Why ask a question when you know the answer? Your walls are light and they need to be dark and non reflective.. Its a HT in a dedicated room. When the lights are on you won't be in there. Do it right.
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At least paint the walls a dark grey or brown.

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No, how dare u post a pic of that supernova of a room. I had to squint looking at that pic there's so much light emitting from those walls. Did u really think anyone in this post would say your walls were fine. They could have been painted black and we still would have complained saying u need velvet up, Lol. Just pulling your chain.

By asking that question though I don't think u truly believe or understand the difference it will make. It is not subtle. Going black makes is a supremely noticeable difference that gives u a better picture and environment.
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Hey guys, I started a new home theater build downstairs and am wondering if I really need to paint the walls or if they are dark enough already.
I will have a black drop ceiling installed to replace the white one you see now. I am also going to paint the white door black as well as buy a large black rug to go beneath the screen.

I am using a Dragonfly 120 inch 1.2 gain screen and the Sony VPL-HW50ES projector.



This is the wall I want to mount the screen to.

Should that give me a decent enough improvement right and help my contrast?
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You might want to lose the white ceiling fan too.

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I got busy last night with some paint and Protostar ! smile.gif

New blacker soffit, with height speakers installed !
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Where all did you put it Craig? It's so dark I can't even tell! wink.gif

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I got busy last night with some paint and Protostar ! smile.gif

New blacker soffit, with height speakers installed !
I can't even tell what I'm looking at. Where did u put it. U should take a pic with some extreme flash. That's what I'm talking about. I'll put up a pic later. Dont want to be talking trash without showing I'm all blacked out too.
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Actually, the Protostar is at the spot that reflects the most light - the front of the projector closet. Anyway, that's what you want -
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- that's the point of making your theater black! cool.gif

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Actually, the Protostar is at the spot that reflects the most light - the front of the projector closet. Anyway, that's what you want -
- that's the point of making your theater black! cool.gif
I was joking and not being sarcastic. I understand what the material is for and what u put it up for. We just wanted to get a closer look at the detail of your work and what specifically u did cause it looks like u did a good job. My last sentence was about the supernova comments I will as ragging on the bright room about.
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Craig, that looks great! you are getting close to my setup. biggrin.gif

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just kidding. I have a ton of the protostar and still looking for other areas to cover with it.
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You're going to have to require guests to wear Protostar suits and hats next then ( No Smiling, dammit ! )! smile.gif

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Black beanies and then black face paint. I had five cream colored theater seats that I threw out a few months ago and replaced with two dark tan I got for free and two black chairs.
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What two screens do you have?
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What two screens do you have?

I currently have a Da-Lite HCCV 16:9 screen - 106" wide, which is going to be replaced with a 16:9 106" wide HD Pro 1.1 gain screen - that's the last theater improvement on my list right now. And I have Stewart 2.35:1 StudioTek 130 G3 screen - 118" wide.

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I currently have a Da-Lite HCCV 16:9 screen - 106" wide, which is going to be replaced with a 16:9 106" wide HD Pro 1.1 gain screen - that's the last theater improvement on my list right now. And I have Stewart 2.35:1 StudioTek 130 G3 screen - 118" wide.

Nice, I want to do something similar
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Hey guys, I started a new home theater build downstairs and am wondering if I really need to paint the walls or if they are dark enough already.
I will have a black drop ceiling installed to replace the white one you see now. I am also going to paint the white door black as well as buy a large black rug to go beneath the screen.

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Should that give me a decent enough improvement right and help my contrast?

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No. Why ask a question when you know the answer? Your walls are light and they need to be dark and non reflective.. Its a HT in a dedicated room. When the lights are on you won't be in there. Do it right.

This is the right answer. Who cares how dark it is when the lights are on if it's a dedicated HT? The only time my lights are on is if I'm selecting a movie. biggrin.gif

My ceiling is painted a dark brown but I still want to go flat black or even better black velvet like my screen wall. wink.gif

This is my screen wall with the projector off & the ceiling fan light on! biggrin.gif


Here it is with the lights out & it's really that dark. I can't see the black velvet screen frame from the black velvet curtains! cool.gif

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WAF - a poem

Everytime my wife goes out of town,
the color of the theater walls go down!
They go from grey to darker, and then to black,
the room will be a bat cave if
she doesn't hurry back !

When she gets home she says
" was this room always quite this dark "?,
when she's gone I'm on a painting lark!
With Protostar and flat black paint galore,
the last time that she got back,
I'd even blackened out the floor!! biggrin.gif

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WAF - a poem

Everytime my wife goes out of town,
the color of the theater walls go down!
They go from grey to darker, and then to black,
the room will be a bat cave if
she doesn't hurry back !

When she gets home she says
" was this room always quite this dark "?,
when she's gone I'm on a painting lark!
With Protostar and flat black paint galore,
the last time that she got back,
I'd even blackened out the floor!! biggrin.gif

But no black paint is as effective as the Protostar material.
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True, but Protostar could be a bit spendy to coat an entire room with. And I'm not sure what would happen to the acoustics. I find it best used on those areas that cause the most reflections back on the screen.

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But no black paint is as effective as the Protostar material.


And velvet beats both. cool.gif

Speaking of Protostar, has anyone had issues with the adhesive not working well? It might have something to do with how I used it, but I cut ~1" strips of Protostar to put around my bass and first reflection traps where the metal frame was glowing which worked great, but they are not staying stuck on. Not a huge deal in my situation as I don't use much Protostar and I can simply super glue these pieces on, but just curious if anyone else has had issues with Protostar not staying stuck on? I still have 2 small areas near the front of my room that would be more practical to use Protostar instead of velvet, but seeing how it is coming off my metal frames does not give me much confidence in the adhesive.
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True, but Protostar could be a bit spendy to coat an entire room with. And I'm not sure what would happen to the acoustics. I find it best used on those areas that cause the most reflections back on the screen.

Agreed, Craig. I do use balck velvet-like drapes along my side walls, back and screen walls, using ProtoStar only on the ceiling (out about 12 ft from the screen wall.
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And velvet beats both. cool.gif

Speaking of Protostar, has anyone had issues with the adhesive not working well? It might have something to do with how I used it, but I cut ~1" strips of Protostar to put around my bass and first reflection traps where the metal frame was glowing which worked great, but they are not staying stuck on. Not a huge deal in my situation as I don't use much Protostar and I can simply super glue these pieces on, but just curious if anyone else has had issues with Protostar not staying stuck on? I still have 2 small areas near the front of my room that would be more practical to use Protostar instead of velvet, but seeing how it is coming off my metal frames does not give me much confidence in the adhesive.

As stated above, I actually only use protostar on my ceiling, and there I don't pull off the back adhesive and stick it to the ceiling. I attached it, with the backing, with black push pins. I initially did this only to see how well I was going to like it, but it worked so well that I stuck with this procedure.
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As stated above, I actually only use protostar on my ceiling, and there I don't pull off the back adhesive and stick it to the ceiling. I attached it, with the backing, with black push pins. I initially did this only to see how well I was going to like it, but it worked so well that I stuck with this procedure.

Good Idea. I will just put a few push pins in for insurance in case the adhesive fails.
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I haven't had mine long enough to know how well it will stay stuck on, but my roll seems awfully sticky.

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