Originally Posted by John Clark
Having seen the improvement that Zombie's ceiling blackout made via his excellent pictures, I am now looking at ways to accomplish that in my home theater room. I'll have to go the black cloth/velvet route because paint isn't really possible. My ceiling is white and heavily textured (picture endless sea of small spikes). There is really no way to paint it unless you spray painted, and that would be more than a little too risky to attempt. Not to mention that there is no way to clean the surface before painting, and its 20 years old, so more than a bit dusty, etc.
And so, I will need some kind of black fabric. I've had little luck finding the brands of black velvet mentioned here, online, for sale. Also, someone mentioned having to spend over $1,500.00 just for a small room. I will need two 8x8 foot pieces for the ceiling, and two 8x6 foot pieces for the front portion of the side walls, and it has to be inexpensive. How to attach it though? Just spread it out while having help holding it, and tack it to the ceiling? I cant use anything like adhesive, since it would destroy the patch of ceiling surface that it touched.
Any recommendations, or help would be appreciated.
Hi John! There are a dozen ways to do this any of them would be better than white.
Paint requires the least skill set and is probably the least expensive, but paint still has some reflective properties.
The Protostar adhesive flock and flock board are an option. The flock board is the same black material as the adhesive paper but on a thin solid plastic and is only 26" wide. Call or email them they will provide samples in the mail http://www.protostar.biz/flock.htm
Triple black Velvet is available at your local Joan Fabrics or from them on line for $14.99 normally http://www.joann.com/search/_royalty%203%20velvet/
, but they have constant 40% off coupons on their site and a monthly %50 off http://www.joann.com/coupon/
. I like this product the best as it is heavier with a tighter weave on the backing. Unfortunately it is on sale for 30% off and you can not use a coupon..
This next velvet is talked up in the DIY screen forum and I have used it, it is ok but lighter in weight and has a thinner backing that I thin would allow the glue to soak through more readily . You also have to pay shipping so that figures into the price
Now how you attach it is where the DIY creativity comes into play. I have a smooth Plaster over Rock Lath ceiling and wanted to be able to remove the ceiling treatment if we need to sell our house. This would be to take the treatment with me and return the living room to a normal white ceiling and did not want to spend a lot of time to make this happen. I did some tests with Velvet on foam core boards held up with mounting tape.. Would be a nightmare to remove all the pieces of tape and the boards would bend and break removing them.
So I used 1/4 Sandeply plywood from HD. This is a step above 5mm underlayment and a little more expensive ($22 a sheet). Cut each piece to 30x41 (velvet is 44" wide)
spray wood with super 77 adhesive, spray velvet with the same, let dry 1 minute and putem together. 6 hands would make it easy but I did it solo, the adhesive is repositionable so you lift and smooth, lift and smooth, wrap and trim. The put it up with 18 gauge nail gun though plywood, plaster and into joists. Next is to add another 16" curved piece to give a stage fee. When removing (did a test) you end up with a bunch of tiny holes that will be filed primed and painted, ceiling paint can be touched up without showing so back to white in less than a day.
For the walls I wanted completely clean no rods hooks or anything during the day so the only options I could think of was magnets. I will be making velvet panels with magnets along the top to attache to that sheet metal I affixed to the walls. I have a bunch of velvet from my past masking project I will reuse and will buy more as needed. I don't mind hanging it up and pulling it down each night, a small price to pay for a brighter room during the day.