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Grease on the lens? Any tips on how to clean that?
I was amazed (AMAZED! indeed HORRIFIED!) when my brand-new Mits HC4900 arrived out-of-box with grease on the lens--at first examination I thought it was a gouge of some sort. But it cleaned right-off with lens cleaner and lens cleaning cloth "no problem". It's a quality lens and will clean-up just fine.

I can't BEGIN TO IMAGINE what they do at the factory, or at the US facility where the pjs are "final-checked", to get grease on the lenses. Well OK I can imagine--they probably apply grease to the lens transport assembly for smooth motorized focus and zooming. But how they could slop grease onto the beautiful (glass? I think Mits are all glass lenses) is beyond my ken--just take a little care Mits!

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They are out of the projector business and I imagine they released a lot of the carers leaving just a few to spread the grease and wash the bottles. smile.gif

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Hi all, can anyone advise me on the best place to buy the Trude 3d Emitter and what are the best glasses to go with it?

I have ordered the the draper Luma screen 1.2 gain to get me started. Will be adding some ceiling curtain track to batcave the room.
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They are out of the projector business and I imagine they released a lot of the carers leaving just a few to spread the grease and wash the bottles. smile.gif

I know this was just a joke, but I bought my PJ 5 years ago and when I see new reports of "grease on the lens" I'm astonished they never fixed the production (or testing, or final inspection) problem with this. In my case I'd contacted Projector People who put me in contact with Mits Factory Service cuz like I said I'd thought it was a physical gouge in the lens. Anyway Mits did hear from me about the grease problem directly!
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Fyi. The grease is to protect the lens from scratches during shipping.
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Man, so Mits exits the PJ business altogether and this thread catches fire. I am away from the thread for a couple of weeks and come back to 3 pages to catch up on. smile.gif

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If you stay away, you still need to keep in shape so you can get back in the game without exerting yourself. You could just say go to a restaurant review forum and quickly read there, anything will do, except maybe a porn site. Hope this helps. smile.gif

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Sorry to repost but can anyone help on the trude 3d emitter front?

That and some material for the blackout curtains and I think my home theatre project will be complete. smile.gif
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Sorry to repost but can anyone help on the trude 3d emitter front?

That and some material for the blackout curtains and I think my home theatre project will be complete. smile.gif

I can't help as I am in the US, but there is a post earlier from someone in Europe who bought it. You could try to PM them. Also, if you do find one, let us all know if they will ship to the US and the contact info. I know I am interested as well as others here.

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I can tell you now that Trude 3D emitter probably won't help Mitsubishi HC5 much in terms of crosstalk or brightness. I bought MonsterVision MAX 3D RF kit because I thought it would be better than Mitsubishi's own emitter. Comparing my results with Zombie's (who owned the mits IR emitter) I concluded that there is no difference in performance. I think same can be said about Trude. Believe me, you're better off not seeing this projector's 3D. You'll be disappointed. I suggest you save that 350 euros and grab a second projector for 3D (Optoma GT760 for 3D gaming or BenQ W1070 if you want to watch 3D BluRays more). They're dirty cheap,have no crosstalk of flicker whatsoever and are much brighter in 3D.

For blackout curtains the best material is fidelio black velvet.
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Did anyone call Mitsubishi and double check that the reseller they purchased through was indeed an authorized reseller? What is the best way (or phone number) to call and check. EVERYONE says they are "authorized".
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I can tell you now that Trude 3D emitter probably won't help Mitsubishi HC5 much in terms of crosstalk or brightness. I bought MonsterVision MAX 3D RF kit because I thought it would be better than Mitsubishi's own emitter. Comparing my results with Zombie's (who owned the mits IR emitter) I concluded that there is no difference in performance. I think same can be said about Trude. Believe me, you're better off not seeing this projector's 3D. You'll be disappointed. I suggest you save that 350 euros and grab a second projector for 3D (Optoma GT760 for 3D gaming or BenQ W1070 if you want to watch 3D BluRays more). They're dirty cheap,have no crosstalk of flicker whatsoever and are much brighter in 3D.

For blackout curtains the best material is fidelio black velvet.


MonsterVision MAX 3D RF kit - this one right?

Any cheap glasses work with this kit?

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Did anyone call Mitsubishi and double check that the reseller they purchased through was indeed an authorized reseller? What is the best way (or phone number) to call and check. EVERYONE says they are "authorized".

I would call Mitsu and ask them if they even care. Being out the projector prolly means they themselves would looking to liquidate their remaining stock through any channel they can.
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Cheers for the info. So RF setups can work on the HC5? I though it was IR only.

Are you sure it is not a bad combination? I have read a few people say there 3d is pretty good. Lots of reviews of the 9000 also said it was decent enough even though it is obviously first and foremost a top 2d PJ.

Edit: A bit of research and it appears the monster converts the 3d IR signal sent by the IR emitter (I presume you have the mits 3d emitter), now without testing I am not surprised your 3d experience is not great. It will still have the same problems inherent in the IR emitter plus any conversion issues.

I will be getting 3d for it at some point as I really don't want two projectors but it only makes up about 5% of my viewing so as long as it does not hurt to watch it I will be happy. The right screen, throw and light control along with better quality emitter can surely negate some of the flaws, along with decent glasses.

I suppose time will tell, if I manage to get one I will let you know.

Could you link to the post of the guy who has an emitter I am struggling to find out.
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The monster has a piece included that you can convert from ir but it also has a piece for straight hook up to a projector
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I can tell you now that Trude 3D emitter probably won't help Mitsubishi HC5 much in terms of crosstalk or brightness.
I really do wonder about this. The tests done with the Trude emitter and HC9000 at cine4home suggested that there is a noticeable improvement (Mit TRUDE wird die 3D-Projektion in jeder Hinsicht merklich verbessert):
http://www.cine4home.de/tests/projektoren/MitsubishiHC9000/Trude/Trude_3DSender.htm

I'd love to hear from some other users on the forum, since I think we can all agree that the HC5 is not that great for 3D, though I still enjoy it.
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hi,

I own the Trude.
But I can not compare the Trude with the original transmitter.

In addition, I use the 3d Panasonic glasses for ir.

http://www.amazon.de/Panasonic-TY-EW3D3ME-3D-Shutterbrille-Projektoren-schwarz/dp/B005HNNIO0/ref=sr_1_cc_2?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1383283543&sr=1-2-catcorr&keywords=Panasonic+3d+Brille

I am satisfied ,brightness is enough for me.
I think ghosting will always be a little visible.
In general, I set the timings of Trude after the relevant movie to obtain an optimal a result.

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Edit: A bit of research and it appears the monster converts the 3d IR signal sent by the IR emitter (I presume you have the mits 3d emitter), now without testing I am not surprised your 3d experience is not great. It will still have the same problems inherent in the IR emitter plus any conversion issues.
My RF emitter is connected directly into the projector, there is no IR-to-RF conversion. You have to solder a cable for this (3-pin 3.5mm jack to 5-pin miniDIN).
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Ah that's better than I thought, although I don't fancy soldiering is there not an adapter?

Thanks for the info Poem, I have read that it works pretty well, could you link where you got it from?

I was thinking about the trude with the xpand glasses but the Panasonic look nice also.

Brightness should not be a problem as I have the lens on biggest zoom and the smallest throw due to room size for a 92" screen.
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The trude uses optimzied timings for 24p in this mode. That is why it is brighter in 3D. The second issue is, that you can reduce crosstalk via fine tuning the timings much better than with the internal 3D controls of the hc5. And it works, I reduced crosstalk with a test pattern and some critical scenes (Oz for example). It really is better now than before.
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The trude uses optimzied timings for 24p in this mode. That is why it is brighter in 3D. The second issue is, that you can reduce crosstalk via fine tuning the timings much better than with the internal 3D controls of the hc5. And it works, I reduced crosstalk with a test pattern and some critical scenes (Oz for example). It really is better now than before.


Can you give us all some information on where you got it, how much you paid and where you are located?

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I am from Germany and I got it from a dealer located here. I paid 200 €.

That is where I got it:

http://www.perfect-cinema.de/printable/3d-projektor-zubehoer/trude-3d-ir-sender-hc5---hc9000.php

I dont know if they ship oberseas, however.
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Hi,

Same Dealer of mine.

I paid a little less Money.. it is good if you are capturing contact with him.

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Bummer about Mits no longer making projectors. I have an HC4000 right now. Does the HC5 have the ability to change the vertical position of the picture like my 4000 does? I use this option to move the letterbox bars onto the area above my screen where it's projected onto my black top drop and projector housing that's covered in black velvet. Sure would like to have to have motorized zoom to fine tune with each movie.
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Anybody have a PDF of the owner's manual? I googled with no sucess, and even the Mits website has "0" info on this model. What the warranty-Is it 3 years?
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Here is the owners manual:

http://www.mitsubishi-presentations.com/wp-content/files_mf/mitsubishi_manual_hc9000d.pdf


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Here is the owners manual:

http://www.mitsubishi-presentations.com/wp-content/files_mf/mitsubishi_manual_hc9000d.pdf

That's for the 9000. They're exactly the same? If so, there's no lens memory or vertical position setting.
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The Sony panels don't seem to have quite as many problems. If you like to upgrade, the resale is important.
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This seems the perfect thread to post this. rolleyes.gif

I would like to thank everyone who has contributed to this thread. I have had my Hc5 a week now and the picture for my setup is amazing, even more than i imagined.

I think you would struggle to get this picture on any other PJ for £1200.

I still have work to do in order to finish my room but even with some ambient light from windows that only currently have blinds the picture is vivid, with great contrast and blacks.
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I've had my HC5 for about a month now, and its been a huge upgrade over my old Optoma HD20. I'm still a bit ocd about the blacks though, and wondering how I can improve it...

Yal using grey or white screens with this projector? Have you tried both and what are your thoughts/comparisons? Anybody try those lens filters? I'm thinking of changing my cinewhite screen to a grey screen, or trying one of those lens filters.

Totally light controlled room (my avatar, larger image HERE)
Walls - ceiling/front - flat black
Walls - side and back wall flat dark grey
Carpet - maroon
Furniture - black

120" cinewhite screen
Projector about 15' away / rear wall about 1/2ft from projector
Settings - Bulb (20 hours) on normal, Iris on User 7, everything else stock

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